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Posted: Mon, 25th Sep 2006, 9:49am

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Twisted mind trailer

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Posted: Mon, 25th Sep 2006, 10:14am

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You know what Might be a good idea? Try watching one of your favorite movies and copying the camera placement and lighting and editing EXACTLY. No changes, just "Remake" your favorite scene from a film without changing anything.
Posted: Mon, 25th Sep 2006, 10:52am

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Kind of a young David Copperfield kind of thing! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 26th Sep 2006, 6:08am

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was ok, i think it will looks good finished, but heres the most important tip NEVER USE THE ZOOM BUTTON

good trailer though
Posted: Tue, 26th Sep 2006, 9:42pm

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Do you honestly think your trailer deserves a 5, jgtrox2? Wouldn't you like to know what rating it really deserves?
Posted: Tue, 26th Sep 2006, 10:53pm

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well i no it doesent but in one day it will not be a five now will it
Posted: Tue, 26th Sep 2006, 11:10pm

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jgtrox2 wrote:

well i no it doesent but in one day it will not be a five now will it
Now I'm not one to go and preach about rating your own movie, as I do it myself when I feel it's justified, but this is a different case.

So, what I'm getting from what you're saying is that you purposefully rated your movie a 5 to see it on top, knowing that it definitely wasn't and that others would bring it down?

As for the video (movie, trailer, ?):
The epitome of what happens when little kids do drugs.
Posted: Tue, 26th Sep 2006, 11:31pm

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its just a rating system dude, calm down. Now i love to make movies and all but saying a kids on drugs for rating a movie a 5, Im outa here for movies if u cant appreciate that i put my movies up here for what i put time into. Im only 11, Whatever i will buy your products some other time:FXHome team
Posted: Wed, 27th Sep 2006, 5:06am

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At least you don't take comments personally..
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 4:02am

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I saw the trailer but I dont understand what its about.
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 4:56am

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He's almost as bad as 2004's Atom. Remember those days.
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 8:06pm

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jgtrox2

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HAY! Now i dont mind you saying that its bad to rate ur movie,
but calling someone elses work is not nice at all.
Please know that i am only 11. I only have a camera and windows movie maker and elab. I do not have mini dv, i have a camera that is made for taking pictures. I am here to learn and well i have. I have learned a lot 2 main things that i learned
1: How to make movies better
2: atom can be a jerk
3: atom loves to say how other movies are like his 2004 days

EDIT: 3 main things
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 9:11pm

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Good Filmmaking isnt about what equipment you have!
Posted: Thu, 28th Sep 2006, 9:46pm

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i no but he doesent have to say its bad even if it is. I dont no where you are from but what i did is preety good for a 11 year old
and if u dont like it, i dont no what to say. But i dont take it as seirously as it is
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 1:02am

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I know. When I was 11 I never dreamed of making a film as good as yours. The only reason that other FXhomers think your film is bad is because its being compared to some of the best films on the internet. You just wait, 6 years from now your films will be some of the top rated films on this site. Just keep working at it and dont give up!
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 2:05am

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Only one question...Why did you put it up for review if you didn't want it reviewed?
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 5:03pm

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i dident say i dident want it reviewed, i just dont like mean comments, and i wanted advice on grading and effects and camera work. That way i can improve next time.
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 8:12pm

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One day jgtrox2, this will be considered your Eraserhead.
Posted: Fri, 29th Sep 2006, 8:50pm

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Rating: +1

Alright, I will try to cretique as fairly as possible.

The content:
The storyline was very difficult to follow. It would seem that you were going for a sort of National Treasure kind of movie where he's trying to steal the Preamble? This could be made more clear. He doesn't have to give a whole explanation "i've got to get the preamble, it will be near a sensor". It would be better for us to see the guy walking into the room, see the preamble that he wants to steal, then see the box (which looks like some sort of an alarm) and THEN have him mutter somthing like "damn, an alarm". There is to much explaining being done. For this type of film (I assume its supposed to be this type becuase of teh action music), you need to show us more than explain. The rest of the film seemed to be different reasons to show of fx. Showcasing your fx is totally ok, its just that you need to show us why your using the fx. What I saw was a kid randomly blasting a door, and then blasting a woman. If it was made clear to me that the door was locked (close up of kid trying to turn knob) and the woman was trying to capture the kid (have her turn around with a gun in her hands) it would be more clear.

When you magically appear at the end, you stopped and started the camera when you were there and then not there ( I assume). Well, either your turned on some lights, or your camera was on some sort of automatic setting becuase the lighting was totally different. i saw some sort of cloud effect, and then a change to somewhere else (looks like somewhere else cause the lights different) with a guy standing there. try and keep the light constant.

Then you make the scroll thing vanish. Why is beyond me. It was kinda cool however, with the slomo. But the coolness isn't enough, becuase im still left wondering, "what was that...?"

Camera work:
It also looked as if you were filming yourself. You may not have had a choice, becuase you were filming alone or somthing, but i suggest having someone film you.

You did a sort of force push thing to disable the senser? it didn't really work out, as you didn't use a tripod when you stopped the camera. I couldn't really tell what was going on. all that stuff on the table, i didn't know what to look at. try taking everything OFF the table, and then just leaving one box on teh table with the scroll inside, and a wire going out from the box and off the table. or somthing like that.

You shot lots of things as if recording a play in the theatre. You set up the camera, and then left it for a few seconds at a relativly wide angle. Most kids, when starting filming, do this all the time. I did see a couple of good angles that were closer, which is a move in teh right direction. However, these angles lasted too long. For this sort of action movie, you need lots of quick anlges, of the guys hands when he fumbles with the scroll, at the senser for a second, etc. Dont leave teh camera running for so long. or, leave the camera for 2 minutes running, and then record the whole scene from 10 different angles and switch between teh different clips you have. When you have a wide shot, i dont know what to look at. what are you trying to draw my attention too?

Try to avoid shots of people heads filling up the entire frame, facing the camera. I'll give you and example: at 18 seconds. thats badly framed. We see your mouth, and not your eyes, and the camera is way to close. at 15 seconds, it better. That frame would have been better if the guy wasn't quite facing the camera, and was looking off camera, and you could see his eyes.

Also, what was that thing in the begining in the dark room? and then the blond kid looking all suprised? This was not clear at all. I'm not sure what you were going for so i dont know what advise to offer.

The sound: It was very difficult for me to hear what was being said. I realize that you are recording with a digital camera on movie mode, so i sugggest doing the following: just erase all the sound you recorded on the camera for thsi movie. this shouldn't be so difficult, especially since there is almost no dialogue where you actually see the person speaking head on.

The fx:

I wouldn't worry about them. They were passable. I could pretty much tell what you were trying to do. However, you still seem to need to learn a lot about everything else, which is much more important. This movie would be much better if the fx stayed the same, and everything else excelled a lot. If the fx were done by ILM on this footage, it wouldn't be any better.

All in all, great effort. and I mean that. I'm actually very interested in seeing this movie once you finish it. I'd love to see you reshoot this and record the sound better with slicker editing. I'm not such a great editor myself, so unfortunatly i cant really help you there.

You so lucky to have started seriously trying to make a good movie at this age. You can now practice and perfect your skills for the next 5 years, and then you'll be my age and have had more experence than most 16 year olds when it comes to film.

Keep it up.

SGB

PS Please dont hesitate to send me a PM or email with questions etc.
Posted: Sat, 30th Sep 2006, 5:11am

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jgtrox2 wrote:

i dident say i dident want it reviewed, i just dont like mean comments
Ah, the old "B4uaskmale30-complex". Gets me every time.

But, in all seriousness jgtrox2, I wasn't trying to be a jerk, just reminisce of when I was very much like you.

And, to top your equipment: Back in 2002, when I was about 12, maybe 13, Ben and I made dozens of 5 minute movies that weren't half-bad with a LEGO webcam that had to be hooked up to a computer at all times, and WMM. Good thing we had laptops. Problem was, they weren't good laptops. And besides, the "I only have WMM" excuse isn't really valid since you can fairly easily download and use AvidFree.......well.....for free.
Posted: Sat, 30th Sep 2006, 3:28pm

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plus I made my first 7 fxhome movies on WMM, and I like to think those weren't total trash
Posted: Sat, 30th Sep 2006, 4:31pm

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I made my first films using 2 VCRs to edit, now beat that, punks...
Posted: Sat, 30th Sep 2006, 4:35pm

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I used a VCR, a HUGE shoulder-mount VHS had-to-always-be-plugged-in camera, and a bunch of VHS tapes to edit. The pause/play and record button were my friends. biggrin Later on, to do credits, I'd make a presentation in Hyperstudio (pre-Powerpoint presentation program) and record the computer screen with my camera.

I hated that camera.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Oct 2006, 3:49am

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Im glad to see Im not the only person who started editing with analog. My set up was 2 Vcrs, a sound board, cd player, and small monitor! I thought I was so cool! LOL
Posted: Thu, 5th Oct 2006, 6:10pm

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I'm about the same age as him so It's good for someone his age so I wouldn't diss his movie.

Anyway I say it would be a 4 star becaus I don't know how the hell to do crap on FX home, well I know a little bit but not too much
Posted: Sun, 15th Oct 2006, 8:34am

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i remember the VCR editing days...that didn't get to far though...

Anyways, reminded me about my Attack of the Pillows days (search the archives...its in there)...

Didn't understand the story...mostly cause i couldn't here the dialog...so that hurt it ALOT!

Also alot of the shots seemed a bit random and unnessisary...

Keep on making movies!

Clinto