Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 10:34am
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|A man wakes up in a basement for no apparent reason. Suddenly, a phone rings...|
This is my "Hauntfest 2006" submission which I manage to finish right before the submission deadline. From my own point of view this is the best movie I have made so far in my movie-making career. Turn the speakers up a bit, and enjoy!
EPILEPSY WARNING: This movie contains prolonged scenes that feature strobe lighting and mild peril. Watch with caution.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 10:37am
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Very good, i'm gonna start in order.
The start logo was nice, i loved that, then the way the scene opens up focusing on the light and the surroundings were good as well.
The way the boy walked around was good and was what a normal person would do, however i would have spent a bit more time looking than jumping to the files, but i understand, the hauntfest timelimit.
The phone ringing was of good quality whereas some movies i've seen turn the volume up and makes me think my mobiles rang
I liked the plot when the man on the phone said "experiment" very strange
I thought that the kid did what everyone else would do, say "stuff it" and try and get out of there, then when he enters the corridoor with the gun, i thought the strobe light was the best in that bit.
Tthe strobe made it more spooky, and then the end, i thought it was brilliant the way you ended that.
Congrats and good luck in the hauntfest.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 11:44am
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It was the general quality of everything in this which impressed me to be honest.
The plot was obviously very SAW, so no points for originality, but frankly I didn't care: its a tense, confusing situation whoever uses it in a film and it tends to work well.
Your main actor needs sedatives! While he didn't detract from the movie a great deal, his constant frantic activity and mannerisms became very draining and a little tedious to watch. He'd just woken up from a (drugged?) sleep in a largely empty room with little stimulus, yet he acted like he'd be stuck in the arse with a cattle prod.
I think the dialogue could have done with a fraction more work. It was somewhat verbal, which implies something about the character, but didn't match the austere monotone of the voice itself. I'd have cut it down a little, read it slower, added some more pauses and perhaps a bit more inflection.
The soundtrack, commented on by other people, was well done, although dominated a little too much in places. The tone of the music also implied far more 'peril' than really existed at one point, which was very noticeable for me, but for the remainder it blended in seemlessly, increasing the impact of the scene.
As far as quicky movies go, however, these things are largely pointless to raise as i'd imagine you'd fix them in a proper production. This was still very well done.
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Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 11:45am
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Redhawk, that film was outstanding. What sells it for me is the editing. Really well done all the way through. Interesting use of lighting and music kept up a sense of suspense without there ever being any actual danger / peril / monster, etc blatantly shown on screen. Towards the end the film was a bit too dark for my taste... hard to really see anything that was going on in the second room, but I can also understand why you might do that for effect. I was wavering between a four and a five because of that, but I'm giving it a five anyway. Excellent job.
Now if I can just finish the screen captures, etc. and get mine submitted!
Anyway, nice job and good luck in the contest. I think you may have a winner here.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 12:57pm
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great work, loved everything about it, cant wait to see your next project.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 1:03pm
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Xcession wrote:... yet he acted like he'd be stuck in the arse with a cattle prod.
I remember the first time I read that quote in, I believe, one of Roger Ebert's reviews. I knew immediately that it would become the gold standard by which all actors would be reviewed in the future.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 1:10pm
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Great film, this is probably your best work yet. I love how it keeps you on edge virtually the whole way through. The editing was great. Camera shots were great, some shaky which gave a better horror feel to it. The colour correction was spot on, really did highlight the green. The strobe lighting + music = Fantastic. Really spooky and left me on edge. Without the strobe it wouldn't have been as good. The music was great (although you knew it was from LOST) and I love the choir coming up to wear you come out. Great film 5/5
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 1:14pm
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Great movie, maybe your best work so far.
I really liked the editing and colour correction since it gave it a horror-movie like feeling. And the strobe lighting at the end was also a nice touch.
So I'm giving you a 5/5 for this one since I can't find anything to complain about (except for my crappy acting, but hey, I'm not an actor)
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 2:37pm
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Ok, great film in terms of the direction, editing, special effects, grading, sound etc. But i have to pick up on one bad aspect - The story just wasn't there. I felt that it was over too quickly with gaps in the story. You could have done so much more with this premise, but perhaps you were short for time with the hauntfest deadline. But as i said, the story aside, that was an awsomely made movie, and i'm giving it a four.
Especially good points were the atmosphere that you were able to create with the grading and the strobe effect, and i really liked the ending too.
Don't think i'm knocking this movie, it was mostly excellant.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 3:07pm
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It didn't scare me, but it was exciting.
Few movies scare me, so I don't think it should ruin my impression of this movie.
Everything was great. ( Mr Shmoe: Your acting was actually ok)
I enjoyed it, 5/5 from me dude.
I will never become such a great filmmaker as you
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 4:46pm
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Yeah, I basically expressed how I felt about this movie in the chat to you Redhawk. Just a very well made little movie all around. I like to see movies here on fxhome that look real.
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 5:28pm
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The opening was awesome, forboding, with GREAT lighting techniques. Great location.
Music choice in the opening was excellent.
Loved the blurred view when the main character woke up.
Good color to convey a mood.
Your editing is tight, and I can follow easily. No jarring scenes.
Sound effects was good. Although the cocking and sliding the pistol was off
Liked the strobing.
I also liked the actor. He did very well.
Your credits and that gleam that you had was a sweet touch!
GREAT JOB HAWK!!
Posted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006, 9:13pm
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THAT F******* OWNED. The editing was superb. The music was perfect and the strobe light was really cool. My entry looks like crap compared to that. From now on you shouldn't be allowed to enter the contests here because thats just like Steven Speilburg (sp?) entering a film festival, it's just not fair. But that was really good
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 2:05am
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Well done! Nice camera work and editing. I could tell two things about you after watching this movie.
1. Your a fan of LOST
2. Your a fan of SAW
Well, I am two. This movie was great, it was like a combination of the two. Everything in this film was done perfectly. The only thing is that I wasnt scared. This is probably just me, Im sure many others were scared but I guess it just takes alot to scare me
If anyone does make a movie for Hauntfest that does frighten me or make me jump I will gladly transfer over 10 force points.
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 2:34am
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This is such a great film well done
. Everything about this film was perfect. I like the use of camera work it was great. The strobe light made everything tence and kreepy great idea. I liked this film alot and I would like to say good luck at hauntfest
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 3:00am
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Impressive. Most impressive.
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 5:31am
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Cool video. I really liked the grading. Camera work was good, however I think you went a little too zoom-happy. It started getting annoying. The slow-zoom shots were choppy. It wasnt the solid.....flowwy... kind of zoom I like to see in those types of situations (Especially at timeframe 3:11 where the camera slowely zooms towards the wall. That looked way too choppy). Basically, it destroyed the effect. Zooming can have a powerful effect, but overusing it can completely destroy it.
As for the audio: Decent. I thought it started out great, up until timeframe 3:18 where the actor started chopping at the wall. That music was way too epic, in my opinion. I almost felt like I was watching the classic version of King Kong. In this case, it was the kid who was going on the Kong-Like rampage. Another aspect of the audio I wasn't too fond of was the voice over the phone. It seemed like the type of voice you might hear from a villian in an action movie. Not a horror. It just didn't seem creepy enough to me.
The acting was pretty good. He did seem to act a little "too frantic" at times.
Editing: No complaints there. Think you did an awesome job. By the way, I loved the RedHawk Productions intro/logo. Very nice.
The story: So, so. Not the biggest fan.
Despite all my nit-picking, I did like this video. It didn't scare me to the least, but I did enjoy it. 3/5. Thank you for taking the initiative this Hauntfest, and goodluck at the poll.
Just curious, what video camera was this shot on?
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 9:47am
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Good production value and you kept it simple - which is a good idea for a short film. I liked all the stuff everyone else liked including editing, lighting, and most of the camera movement, though I do agree that there might have been a little too much zoom especially in the beginning. Also - good production design and art direction. That element combined with lighting really ads to the surroundings and the feel of the film and is something a lot of films overlook. I wish you would have done something more extreme with the ending though. I wasn't sure what to expect, but I was definitely a little let down by a simple face appearing from nowhere. I was thinking cause he said "experiment" he was going to like dump acid on him or put him in some kind of medically demented type situation. I dunno - I just though it could have been cooler if something really crazy happened in the end - but good job otherwise and I would agree it's your best work yet. Congratulations and keep it up.
EDIT: Miker is right - the audio of the kid chopping the wall is kind of limp. You should deepen it by adding a heavier sound effect - just don't go overboard.
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 10:27am
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Looked very good, good editing, sound, camerawork, lighting.
I agree about your main actor (you?), he was overdoing the moving around, and was looking around very jerkily and forced. It didn't match the slower pacing of camera and music. Realism was let down for me by the top your actor had on! Adidas sports top screams child, whereas you could have had him wear a shirt. I know he is young and nothing will take that away on film, but a different top would have made a bit of difference.
Story and ending... this lowers my opinion of the movie. It could have been great and different, you had a really photogenic location, but ultimately was generic. I liked the phone in cupboard idea, but after that...
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 10:41am
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Thanks for all the comments, it's always nice to read on what you can improve and so forth...just to make it clear, I don't play the main character, MrShmoe
does. For all of you who are interested in or liked the grading of the film, I just posted a before/after comparision on the movies' page, showing the big difference in terms of look and mood of the footage we shot and the movie when it was finished.
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 11:38am
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The before and after comparison was good, i see that you used light in the scene but made the scene appear more darker, nice one
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 5:57pm
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I enjoyed that, impressive. I liked your use of the strobe light as to me, it created a sense of panic and increased the pace of the film upto and including the climax.
I have also read quite alot on these forums, people critisising the actors used, it is as rare as rocking horse shit to find a good actor of any kind even if we had the budgets etc. Just look at the crop of 'talent' on the big screen nowadays anyway.
Dude, in 6 minutes you created a great little film that has inspired me and I am sure quite a few others to up the ante. Look forward to your next project.
4/5 and in my Top 10
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 7:35pm
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Pretty decent stuff. I especially liked your use of the strobe and its clear from the before and after video a lot of effort went into getting the right look in post. Also, it had some very nice pacing. I did enjoy it and watched it through to the end, I'd probably say the lack of a stronger story quashes an otherwise solid production. Also there were some dodgey zooms and camera movements at the beginning which could have been ironed out with a simple re-take?
Overall though, nice one. 4/5
Posted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006, 9:33pm
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I liked this, but I couldn't get past all those damn zooms! This was almost perfect, but then you zoomed. Why? In my opinion, a filmmaker is to use a zoom sparingly, if that; whereas here, it seemed like you zoomed every other cut in an attempt to keep the person in frame. It felt unnatural and amateurish. I also wasn't a fan of the breaks in continuity, most notably how he holds the gun up, then it cuts to the light flickering out, and his hands are at his sides, apart, and with no gun. I really, really like the cuts and suspense when he got the second phone call, but I thought the kid's face popping up behind him was really corny. It was too close, and looking in the camera, so it looked like someone just walked beside him and acknowledged the camera. Perhaps a masked figure with a knife/gun/weapon that is further away and coming at him slowly from behind would've worked to better effect. Still, this is really awesome in the 'mood' and 'uneasiness' departments, so I'm gonna go ahead with a 3/5. Would've been 4, maybe 5 if not for the zooms. Too many of 'em.
Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006, 1:40pm
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The links are temporarly down, due to an overkill in bandwith usage
(around 25 gb/day). I'm currently uploading the High Quality version to another server, with the low quality and HD quality hopefully going up a few hours after those.
Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006, 1:48pm
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Hehe, yeah. I wasn't expecting that kind of traffic so my webhost shut me down. But as Redhawk said, the files will be up on another server soon.
Posted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006, 3:50pm
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I have uploaded the new files now, and they should update sometime tomorrow probably...if you can't wait
, go here
to download it
Posted: Sun, 29th Oct 2006, 12:22am
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Overall it was cool, though there are somethings I'd like to note.
Look: Perfect, everything from the design of your set, to props, and the actual look of the film was great. It looked very pro.
Sound: I think what you should have done is used sound fx for the rustling of papers, and other on set noises. It didn't sound very crisp, and as a result, the overal sound was tacky. Also your score didn't exactly match the tone of your movie. While it was intense, it wasn't scary intense like this should have been, imo. Something with deeper sounds like horns instead of an assemble of violens would have worked better.
Acting: I'm not going to complain to much as good actors are hard to find, but I think you should have the actor keep in mind the emotions and vibes that he sets off with he moves around the set and his tone of voice. When he answered the phone, it wasn't a wtf is going on here, i'm sort of pissed off and confused tone like some one in that situation probably would of had, but it was more of a casual hello, which I didn't think worked with this type of movie. So keep that in mind and see what you can do and what you can have your actors do to hopefully make the overall production set on a higher level.
Posted: Mon, 30th Oct 2006, 8:23pm
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Posted: Fri, 10th Nov 2006, 9:37pm
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hmmm, not bad, would have liked to see something actually happen...
and i really thought the tehno dance light was tacky
overall though, ok
Posted: Sat, 11th Nov 2006, 2:35am
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I liked the idea and the way you guys filmed it and everything, but something about the actor took the movie down a little bit. He wasn't very believable, and didn't react to his situation the way I would have expected someone in the same situation. Not bad, but the ending was sort of lame. Great job though. I liked it.
Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 1:50pm
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Starts off pretty good but as mentioned by others the actor isn't too believable... I know I would be running around kicking things and screaming but maybe that's just me... Believe it or not but the last few seconds did scare me simply because i was not expecting that! I expect that's what you meant for that shot to do though.
Overall Good job, I like it.
Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 5:53pm
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What camera did you use? It looked amazing.
There were only three things that bothered me, everything else was perfect.
It being so much like Saw I expected more from the whole gun thing. Some sort of clever purpose that would explain why the killer even gave him it in the first place. My first thought was that he'd try and shoot at a noise in the darkness and find out he killed his best friend or something. It just never went anywhere.
Also him trying to break through the door that he was told not to go through was odd because it looked like it would just open if he even tried. Although unlike what others said I think him deciding to go through in the first place worked because it showed him as not scared. If that was the character motivation then I liked it. I just wish he could have shown that more when he was talking to "jigsaw" on the phone. Maybe by hanging up on him or something.
The last thing is that I was struck by how clean the actor was when first revealed. His clothes and face were spotless in a way that seemed really out of place for someone waking up in a strange basement. Enough so that it actually disrupted the movie for me.
That said I loved it and you deserve the win.
Seriously though what camera did you use? I'm dying to know.
Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 8:52pm
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I've already said it in chat; this is remarkably well done in places. I especially liked your use of lighting and grading to achieve the specific feel you wanted. Most of the camerawork felt really good and actually tense and creepy in some places.
What I also liked, was some of your sounddesign - even though the original audio quality was kinda bad, so you might want to look into getting proper equipment for sound (eg, a microphone
) next time, as sound is very important.
The one thing that was a bit of a letdown was the acting, it didn't really convince me as well as his general appearance - too young, completely wrong clothing... And some of the editing appeared a bit harsh.
Other then that, this is technically on the highest level I've seen from you and on a pretty good level overall. You're definately on the right track here.
Posted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006, 8:55pm
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I've got to say thank you again to everybody who downloaded and commented on my movie. It really helps with future films, and it's always nice and interesting to see what other people think of your work.
VisualAdvocate - glad that you liked the image quality
I used a Sony HDV camcorder called HDR-FX1
sollthar - hey, thanks for the comments...yeah, I'm definently looking into getting a better microphone for my camera, but the only problem at the moment is my lack of money
Posted: Sat, 18th Nov 2006, 4:21pm
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Well done. Good use of color correction filters to add an even more spooky feel to it....