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Aliens Versus Predator Movie

Posted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006, 11:18am

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A test using some of AlamDv2 presets combined with Effectslab effects. Thanks to Kermz for the alien and dropship presets. Also thanks to fallen, solthar, and axeman for various other presets.

Plot: Planet LV-102 was open to inhabitants from earth until various cases of missing laborers were noticed. A squad of Colonial Marines were sent off to the newly built houses on Planet Lv-102 to find out what is causing all the problems. What they found was worst possible combination ever to be imagined. Let the battle Begin.


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Posted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006, 3:42am

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100mb for 6 minutes is reason enough to steer completely clear of this, but I stood on. Waiting.

There's not much here to dissect, but let me break it down:

The pros

-Wardrobe
-Some sense of stylism
-Acting hehe....

The cons

-The white balance, camera settings, etc. Get in the habit of setting your exposure and white balance when you turn on the camera, move location, or if you're patient enough-each shot you take.
-The editing. Too bland and basic, and yet incredibly convuluded somehow. I suggest watching your favorite action movies, or even the Hollywood version of AVP (atrocious!) to work on the editing. Quicker cuts only work if they make sense.
-The locations........snore

There are a few more bones to pick, but I'll leave it at that. You've got some style and potential, and I think it can really go somewhere if you analyze what you want this to be like. Which, by the title, seems to be AVP.
Posted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006, 6:16pm

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Hm, this does not work with out a proper location or set. My advice is, if you want to make better movies; use more time on planning the movie and on shooting it. Everything can't be done in the post-production stage.
Posted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006, 7:10pm

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Thanks for the comments. I agree, the location was not too convincing. The problem is finding a good location without having the police arrest us for carrying around m16s. Being an Iranian and running around with replica guns do not go well with each other in this country. I know it is a large file for a small amount of time but the quality really matters to me. It could have developed better with more planning. It was shot in 2 days.
Posted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006, 7:49pm

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Man that was awesome! This one is your best, can't wait to see your next movie.
Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006, 1:40am

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I didn't have a problem with the location. What else could they have done? But their were 2 things I had problems with. The reaction to the hand in the closet wasn't that great. The acting in general wasn't good.
Number 2, You need more camera angles. It helps to have establishing shots also. Besides that, good film! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006, 2:15am

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Thanks for the compliments. It is funny that you bring up the acting to the hand in the closet because i also find it funny how he is so stone cold. I would be pissing in my pants and running out of there if i saw that. If we spent more time making the movie, we could have had better camera work but for a 3 man project, it had to do.
Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006, 10:11am

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I agree with what has been said. As an action movie, this fell flat and wasn't exciting at all - mainly due to the lack of tension. This is my main gripe with the film: It felt randomly made up on spot. As a director, you kinda failed to create a tense atmosphere in this, also supported by the already mentioned acting problems, unoriginal location and uninspired camerawork.

Nevertheless, it was a solid effort compared to your last movie. So if you keep improving and spending more time like that, you should get some cool little movies together.


I'd give it 3 stars, but the terrible compression with 100 mb for 6 minutes take away another star.
MPEG 1 video might be the most compatible, but in terms of filesize-quality, it's not really a tool of choice.

With a better codec you can almost half the size and double the quality...
Posted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006, 11:13pm

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thanks solthar. Let me just say that the movie was made randomly at the spot, improvising as we went. we definately could have made the movie gripping. The main thing going through my mind was the effects and what different camera angles we can incorporate them in.
Posted: Tue, 5th Dec 2006, 3:18pm

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You made some good use of some of the AlamDV2 plugins. Nice to see those still make an appearance now and again. Seems like you had a good test of effects usage & camera angles. Once you're able to hammer out a good story and take some time to focus on those elements, I'm sure you'll be able to put together a really great project.
Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2006, 9:02am

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um...i just got around to watching this...i've had it downloaded on to my hard drive for somthing like a week...heh....

so on top of some of the other things that were said, i just wanted to mention lighting...Having a big bright, mostly white colored house is un-interesting...but very nice when it comes to color grading...

I'm not a huge fan of huge color grading effects, BUT! in this case, it would have helped set the mood.

other than that, i just wanted to say awsome props + costumes!

Clinto
Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2006, 12:44pm

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Finally watched this. There's a lot going on in this movie to comment on, but I'll try to keep it short. First, I appreciated the way that you worked the 3D animation into the film. It was fairly primitive, but you got over that with clever editing and only worked in the animation bits in very short, erratic shots, which made it work rather than dwelling on shots where it might have looked more fake. Nice work there.

The premise was interesting enough, but as some people have noted, the setting and such took away a bit of immersion. I mean, having the special forces team show up in a Ford Taurus (or whatever it was) lacked some of the impact of them showing up in a jeep or a hummer or something. biggrin (Yes, I know... jeeps and hummers aren't in my budget either.)

Nice costumes and props, and while some of the special effects could have been blended a bit better, they still worked out ok.

Back on the topic of 3D for a moment, the ship that showed up to extract them was barely larger than the briefcase they tossed onto the lawn. wink

The plot was kind of thin, but to fit that kind of sci-fi story isn't easy in such a short time.

The grading of the film put me off a bit. Most of it looked a bit too washed out and bright, particularly the indoor shots. Aside from that, not too shabby at all. I enjoyed it and gave it a 3.
Posted: Mon, 11th Dec 2006, 10:24pm

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i appreciate your comments. I know i should have graded the movie to give it a more eerie look to it. I completely forgot about using effects lab to do grade it. I also understand how funny it is that these hard core marines armed to the teeth step out of a small Toyota Camry. A Hummer would have been amazing. smile
Posted: Wed, 13th Dec 2006, 10:53pm

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this movie looks so cool! but I don't have MPEG, I have Windows Media Player, so I can't watch it sad
Posted: Wed, 13th Dec 2006, 11:27pm

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I can post a WMV file if you want.
Posted: Sat, 30th Dec 2006, 11:35am

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I thought it was a great try. Shame we didn't get to see the predator.

I thought that it was hilarious that, when entering the small basement like room, the soldier had to point out that an alien was in the corner.

Nice!!
Posted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007, 2:33pm

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i cnt watch it but it looks sooooooooooooo good. sad