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The Last Harry Potter Title

Posted: Thu, 21st Dec 2006, 10:18pm

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Well J.K. Rowling has announced the title of the last Harry Potter book and it shall be called....


Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows unsure

http://bloomsbury.com/harrypotter

http://jkrowling.com


No release date has been set.

unsure
Posted: Thu, 21st Dec 2006, 10:39pm

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That sounds cheerful.
Posted: Thu, 21st Dec 2006, 11:38pm

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That's a terrible title for a book! mad unsure burst I hope the story is better than it.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 12:58am

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The last book was pretty terrible in comparison to the ones prior to it.

I remember when the first one game out and I was around 13 years old. Fantastic childrens books then, now they are just written for the sake of it, and I honestly don't believe a word of Rowlings 'I had this planned ALL along'.

Yeah right. Also, the last film in the series didn't impress me, and I don't think the next film will be any better as they more and more try and squeeze a five hour film into 90 mins.

Shame, Potter coulda been dark and mysterious. Andy McNab should write a Potter.....
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 5:04am

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er-no wrote:

I honestly don't believe a word of Rowlings 'I had this planned ALL along'.
Yeah, I don't believe it either... she, pretty much, pulled off a George Lucas; Star Wars="Episode IV".... "Episode V".... ...."Episode VI"..... 'eh, I'll add in some more'...."Episode I"..... "Episode II".... "Episode III".....

Good lord! Doesn't the man know how to count? Granted, I love the franchise, but the original trilogy could have gone by itself.

But I'm turning a J.K. Rowling topic into a George Lucas topic... so I'll stop.

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the last film in the series didn't impress me
David Yates (the director) seems to be missing the key points to Goblet of Fire... and I suspect that Order of the Phoenix, as you said, won't be any better. A nearly 5-7-800 page book in 2 hours.... it wouldn't hurt anyone to just extend the length of the film........
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 6:53am

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Eh, I'm a Potter fan-boy.

I couldn't care less what it's called just as long as I can read it.

There are only a handful of good book-film adaptations these days. I never expected them to pull of a decent depiction of Potter on film. They've done alright this far; but I think I'll hold on to the books.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 7:20am

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I as well am a Potter fan-boy (trapped in a 19 year-old boy's body).

I think the name rocks, and is a cool way to bookend the saga, especially with the darker tone that the series has been heading towards since the third.

I as well hope it is better than half-blooded prince, which was in my opinion the worst of all the books (tied with chamber of secrets)
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 7:37am

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Well, its good to know that I'm not the only Potter fan around here. The filmss have certainly not impressed me thus far, but I am hoping that Order of the Phoenix isn't totally ruined, as it's perhaps my favorite of the books.
I'm quite looking forward to the final book, though I do hope Rowling refrains from killing off another main character this time around. She seems to have developed an irritating habit of doing so recently.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 7:42am

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It's the last one though. You know some one gotsta die.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 8:32am

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Ah, you're probably right, but hey I can hope, can't I? rolleyes
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 9:20am

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Waser wrote:

It's the last one though. You know some one gotsta die.
Unless, of course, she has Neville fly the Falcon, in which case Ron can just crack jokes and gurn at the camera, losing the funny charm he had in the first two, while everyone survives the battle in an unlikely and dramatically unsatisfying manner. The only truly good bit will be the battle between Harry and Vadermort, when he finally turns him back to good. The bit when Harry's blasting away at him with all his magical anger and the music is swelling will be the most emotionally resonant bit of the entire story, despite the rest of Deathly Hallows featuring Dobby's entire family defeating the armies of evil in deeply unrealistic 'comedy escapades'.

Oh, wait. I think I may be confusing two different things here...

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Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 1:32pm

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People were outraged with "Revenge of the Sith" as a title but this one takes the nub cake for all
Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 5:48am

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Waser wrote:


I as well hope it is better than half-blooded prince, which was in my opinion the worst of all the books (tied with chamber of secrets)
FUDGE YOU! FUDGE YOU TO DEATH!
Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 6:01am

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I very much like that title. Badass IMO. I am a HP fanboy as well, and here's my two cents:

-Snape is good.
-Voldemort dies.
-Hagrid, or some other good character dies.
-His time at Hogwarts is shortlived.

At the end of the last one, the only thing I cared about was including Hogwarts and happy/fun stuff. It seems like the 7th one isn't going to have any stuff at the school based on the ending, but who knows?

I don't think she'll kill of Potter unless she also kills of Voldemort. It can't go unresolved. Also, her core audience would be devastated if Potter died. I think the movies are going uphill cinematically, and acting-wsie but are losing the fun factor. They no longer are released near Xmas time, and they progressively remove fun things like the Dursley's house, Diagon Alley, games, etc. The books are kind of doing this too, and they are removing a lot of fun elements. Anyways, I am pumped for the 7th installment.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 6:28am

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Serpent wrote:

they progressively remove fun things like the Dursley's house, Diagon Alley, games, etc. The books are kind of doing this too, and they are removing a lot of fun elements. Anyways, I am pumped for the 7th installment.
Yeah, that's really disappointing. But the books, however, can't be all fun and games anymore; as in the 4th book, the tone became much darker, since Rowling killed off Cedric... then she killed off Sirius Black..... then good 'ol Dumbledore. What a shame.

It wouldn't surprise me, though, if Harry AND Voldemort dies. Everything that is resolved, there is a fatal price to pay....
Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 7:10am

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i used to read the books but couldn't be bothered after a while. the films were ok to me, as i enjoyed watching how they tried to link the book to the film, and the effects were good, but not as good as POTC-2 [pirates of the carribean]'s CG.

as for the new book, i hope it does well, but a good thing has to stop, before it gets disliked.

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Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 2:35pm

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Perhaps they all die and Rowling just states.

'All events mentioned previous have been completely random. And you mugs fooled for it! I'm 600£million richer and all I needed to do was give a kid a wand!'

That'd make me laugh.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 4:10pm

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Potter dies, it's gotta happen.

My guess is either he sacrifices himself to save Hermione or kill Voldemort, but either way he has to die. The books follow him throughout school, correct? Well what kind of ending is appropriate for the finale of school. What profession does Rowling say he goes into? There's really no appropriate way to end it without it looking like:

"And Harry graduated Hogwarts and lived happily ever after."

That just don't work. My bets are on him dying a Shakespearean-style tragic hero death.
Posted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 4:36pm

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Atom wrote:

Potter dies, it's gotta happen.

My guess is either he sacrifices himself to save Hermione or kill Voldemort, but either way he has to die. The books follow him throughout school, correct? Well what kind of ending is appropriate for the finale of school. What profession does Rowling say he goes into? There's really no appropriate way to end it without it looking like:

"And Harry graduated Hogwarts and lived happily ever after."

That just don't work. My bets are on him dying a Shakespearean-style tragic hero death.
That would be very dramatic and the provacy says "one cannot live while the other survives" or something like that. That doesn’t mean one has to die and the other lives, it means one and/or the other must die.
I think you might be right Atom.

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Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 1:03am

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Or...
WHAT IF EVERYONE BUT HARRY DIES AT THE END AND HE IS LEFT ALL ALONE...
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 1:34am

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Atom wrote:

What profession does Rowling say he goes into?
"Harry ditches school on his last year, and becomes a mean thug who steals people's money. Then Voldemort finds him, and they both become great mates. Draco and Snape find him, and THEY become good mates. Then they all die."

(heheh)
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 2:25am

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well, either the-gay-dude-whos-name-one-must-not-speak-of or harry must die, because of their gaylord bond !!!


but the BIG question is, IS dumledore ALIVE ???

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p.s.: title sounds alright, but not fantastic crazy
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 3:06am

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devilskater wrote:

but the BIG question is, IS dumledore ALIVE ???
Not likely. Seeing as Snape used the Killing Curse on him, I'm not sure even the mightiest of wizards could survive that curse. And since Dumbledore was already weak from that water he drank from that sieve, and then he (and Harry) found that Horcrux.

My answer: no, Dumbledore is most likely not alive.... unless J.K. Rowling pulls off a T.R.R. Tolkein; bring dead Gandalf the Grey back to Gandalf the White.... so Dumbledore would be.... "Albus Dumbledore the one-who-was-brought-back-to-life-by-some-miraculous-charm-and/or-miracle".
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 4:09am

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Ah, but there's always Dumbledore's portrait in his old office, I imagine that wil come into play, as all of the other dead Headmasters/Headmistresses' potraits seem to be quite alive.

My guess for the end of the book is, Harry turns out to be one of Voldemort's Horcruxes, and has to kill himself in order to finish Voldemort...

Just a guess, as I say.
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 4:21am

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pixelboy wrote:

Ah, but there's always Dumbledore's portrait in his old office, I imagine that wil come into play, as all of the other dead Headmasters/Headmistresses' potraits seem to be quite alive.

My guess for the end of the book is, Harry turns out to be one of Voldemort's Horcruxes, and has to kill himself in order to finish Voldemort...

Just a guess, as I say.
Well, not to be Johnny Raincloud, but all of the protraits in the Headmaster (currently Headmistress) room were described as "sleeping". You can even hear the snoring in some of the Potter films.

But I do like your idea about Harry being the horcrux. Seems like an interesting twist.... (hence the name, "The Deathly Hallows")
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 6:08pm

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devilskater wrote:

but the BIG question is, IS dumledore ALIVE ???
I really don't think Dumbledore is alive; a sort of key thing in the last book was that Harry would be without a teacher to face Voldamort (or however you spell it). Kinda of like Star Wars, Luke loses Obi-Wan and Yoda, he still has Han and Leia but he has to go face Vader alone. Harry lost Serious (or however you spell it) and Dumbledore, he still has Ron, Hermione (or however you spell it) and Jenny (or however you spell it) but has to face Voldamort (or however you spell it) alone.

pixelboy wrote:

My guess for the end of the book is, Harry turns out to be one of Voldemort's Horcruxes, and has to kill himself in order to finish Voldemort...
I think between you and Atom you have said the end of the book already. wink
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 6:15pm

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I believe Dumbledore is alive. Throughout book six it is very ambiguous as to whether snap is evil or not. He has that very vague argument with Dumbldore where he is being told that "he must go through with it".

Also, book six had this huge section about casting spells without saying them. While Snape may have said the killing curse, he may have infact cast a spell to make it appear as though Dumbledor was dead (as to keep true to that weird promise he made to mrs. malfoy).

Also, Dumbledore's body is never seen at his funeral, and if I remember correctly, this is even noted as odd by Harry.

If you read the book with the mind set that Snape is really good and Dumbledore is really alive, it all makes perfect sense.

By the way, I can't begin to describe how much tail I get.
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 8:42pm

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kingofbladeslv wrote:


Well, not to be Johnny Raincloud, but all of the protraits in the Headmaster (currently Headmistress) room were described as "sleeping". You can even hear the snoring in some of the Potter films.
Ah, but if you actually read the books, it often mentions them pretending to sleep, while actually listening to the conversation.
Also, what about Phinneous Nigelus, one of the dead headmasters in the portraits, who becomes quite vocal at times?
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 11:03pm

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kingofbladeslv wrote:


David Yates (the director) seems to be missing the key points to Goblet of Fire... and I suspect that Order of the Phoenix, as you said, won't be any better. A nearly 5-7-800 page book in 2 hours.... it wouldn't hurt anyone to just extend the length of the film........
Mike Newell directed GoF, David Yates is directing OotP.

As for the books, I love them. Cant wait for the next one and I'm not even gonna try to guess what happens

The movies, well, they arent that great, but I still love 'em. I didnt like the first and the second much [directed by Chris Columbus], but I loved the third [directed by Alfonso Cuaron, whose movie "Children of Men" comes out tomorrow]. Sure, it didnt hold onto the books as much as the first and the second one did, but as a movie, it was much better. The fourth one I didnt like as much as I thought I would because it went too fast. The movie is really long, but there wasnt a lot of downtime--showing just what normal life at hogwarts was like would've been nice. My personal favorite part of that movie was the yule ball.

Anyways, I'm excited for the next movie and book.
Posted: Mon, 25th Dec 2006, 2:18am

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Harry is the final Horcrux. That's the only thing that makes any sense.

Also, JK Rowling is hot, lol.
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I think I actuelly changed my mind about him being the final horcrux. After he destroys all of them he still has to go after voldamort and how can he do that if he killed himself?

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Posted: Mon, 25th Dec 2006, 2:49pm

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Also, how would he make harry his horcrux? It doesn't really make any sense. It says that Voldemort wanted to use Harry's death to make his final horcrux. How could he have made a final horcrux if harry never died? So logically harry can't really be a horcrux. It wouldn't make sense for Voldemort to put a piece of his life in Harry if he wanted to kill harry.

I imagine that if Voldemort did manage to make a horcrux on that night, Rowling will make up somthing new telling us how he really made it by accident or somthing. Then the horcrux could be harry's scar. That would make the most sense. Harry's scar is his connection to vodemort, it hurts him when voldemort is near. It could make sense that the scar is actually a peice of voldemort's soul, giving harry the ability to speak to snakes etc.

To all those who think Dumbldore is still alive, I'm sorry to say he's not. Accourding to this site, Rowling or other official sources have confirmed that he is really dead. http://mugglenet.com/books/futurebooks/book7/rumors.shtml. However, I think that there is still a chance that Snape is good. perhaps that liquid itself was the horcrux, and Dumbldore knew this and told Snape to kill him to destroy it.
Posted: Mon, 25th Dec 2006, 6:21pm

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Right because Harry's scar is a seperate entity from Harry.. rolleyes

How can you say that Harry being the last horcrux makes no sense, and then say his scar could be and that makes the most sense? Use your head.

Edit: LOL HARRY HAS TO KILL HIS SCAR THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE
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Its clear from the books that harry's scar is much more than just a cut, or scar tissue in his skin. I think it makes perfect sense that harry's scar could be the last horcrux, or some form of a horcrux. It makes much more sense for harry's scar to be the last horcrux than for harry himself to be it. That makes no sense at all, for reasons stated before. harry destroying his scar? doesn't seem so implausible to me. It believe in teh first book it is implied somewhere that Dumbledore could've removed harrys scar, but decided not to.
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SGB wrote:

Dumbledore could've removed harrys scar, but decided not to.
Yeah, leave it to young Harry to rip his skin off his face. Dumbledore probably did that because it is useful to know Voldemort's moods and stuff. The horcrux wouldn't be the connection. They pretty much explained the scar at the end of the 5th one (I think.) I wager neither Harry nor the scar is the horcrux. Why would you hide part of your life in the hands of one of your enemies at all? There is absolutely no reason. What would be interesting is if the Horcrux was in one of Harry's friends, so in order to kill Voldemort, he would have to kill someone he is close to. But that is unlikely for above reasons and simply because planting it in someone probably wouldn't go unnoticed. Of course, I am not familiar with any of the technicalities of any of this, she never explained it at all.
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I didn't mean that Voldemort deliberatly made harry's scar the horcrux. As I said before, I dont think he deliberately made a horcrux the night he killed harrys parents and tried to kill harry at all. I think that if he did make a horcrux, it was somehow by accident. It wouln't make any sense for him to have purposefully made harry or his scar a horcrux.
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Somebody wrote a fanfic of "Harry Potter 8" assuming that Harry died in book 7, where Hermione fell in love with Malfoy.

As for all this other stuff I have absoloutely no idea what's going to happen. Although I don't think this is at all like the Star Wars series in that she wrote the first couple and said "I think I'll write some more." I like the later ones just as much and don't think there could be a good conclusion unless harry dies/graduates/kills voldemort.