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The Making of A Very Zombie Christmas

Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 10:12am

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Jazzmanian

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This film was our critically acclaimed entry in the 2006 Shmede and Woolgie Comedycon, beating out a tough field of other contestants... oh, ok. We were the only entry. Happy now?

This film is a mockumentary in the style of Spinal Tap, depicting the behind the scenes action in the making of what was possibly the absolute worst Christmas movie ever made. We had a great time making it, and I hope you get a few laughs out of it.


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Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 4:36pm

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I thought this was great fun with some exceptional killer scenes.
Good on you Jazz for some original ideas and a brave attempt at a very very difficult genre.
I take it no animals were hurt in this production......hehe.
It must have been very difficult to control such a vicious beast during
the shoot......I also thought the dog was brilliant.......lol
John was superb in his "classic"scene ,one of the most enjoyable
laugh out loud parts of movie.....brilliantly done.
I think you'll soon be joining the comedy filmakers group on this forum.
Well done....and .....erm.........CONGRATULATIONS!

Davlin

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btw....front end logo needs to be sorted out......anamorphic prob.

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Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 4:49pm

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Thanks a bunch for the great review, Davlin. I was very worried about this from right from the beginning. We never tried any comedy before, and it's really not my genre. And after you watch anything about a zillion times in editing, you don't laugh anymore so I got to the point where I couldn't really tell if any of it was actually funny at all.

I made some mistakes (as always) such as I wish I'd shot the director interview footage from multiple angles and edited them in differently. And I still need to improve my audio work a lot, but hopefully the new mic will help with that for our next project.

Oh, and we'll definitely be using the dog again in the future. Sadly, he's probably the best actor among us. wink
Posted: Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 8:36pm

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Definitely the best you have put out so far Jazz. Your lighting for greenscreen compositing looks great, and the idea of using the documentary (making of) as your basis for the comedy worked well.

I loved the interview part of the guy who was threatening to sue.

Why is it that zombies would have 2x4's, or a pick ax, a knife, but not a spatula like yours? You'd figure they would grab anything. LOL.

Great editing and the laughs were spaced apart well to keep my interested in watching throughout.
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 7:34pm

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This is a questionable movie. I personaly think that you did a great job on "The Making", the film on the otherhand did not look very interesting. The trailer needed a lot of work. The text was horrible the voice was too fake sounding and the only shots i saw were front on green screen shots. The making video was good but the video looked like it needs a lot of work.
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 8:06pm

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I think that was the point, Mosk - it was a Making Of for a spoof film which wasn't supposed to be very good (hence, for example, the Zombies with spatulas and the ad-libbed comments in the voiceover). As it says in the description, it's a 'mockumentary' - a pretend documentary. I thought it was pretty funny!

Jazz, I liked this, partly because it reminded me of ls:tv's own "The Making Of", in a way smile

It's a clear improvement for you, and the greenscreen work was great! There were a few issues (mainly sound and pacing), but as you say, you clearly had a great time making it so they don't really matter that much.

In all, a solid piece of work!

Cheers,
Arktic.
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 8:56pm

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Thanks a bunch, Arktic. (And you too, Mosk. I appreciate anyone taking the time to watch and review and make suggestions.) I saw Mosk's comment earlier (between rounds of making holiday cookies with the family... kind of hectic here) but I didn't reply because I was rather worried. It's like what they always say about jokes... if you have to explain it, you probably didn't tell the joke very well. And after working on the film for so long and watching it so many times in post I honestly couldn't tell anymore if it was really funny or if it "worked" at all.

But yes, Arktic is spot on. The trailer wasn't supposed to be good. It was a spoof of a bad trailer for a bad movie.

That doesn't mean I didn't mess up. Among the many areas I have where I need to improve as a filmmaker, editing in post and audio are two where I'm still frankly dismal compared to the work of the experienced folks here. But this week we're supposed to be getting a RODE videomic and (cross my fingers) Adobe for an NLE, so some things may improve. For our next film (already started, and titled "Please Stand By"... another comedy) I've tried to get the actors to do all of the scenes where conversations take place five to seven times to give me a lot of different, interesting shots to work with in the post production editing. However, the auido on the early pieces is still bad, so we were talking on Friday night and if we have new equipment and software, we may just scrap it entirely and start over from scratch. I've got part of a trailer put together, and I may post a link to that after I tinker a bit more, but this film has taught me another important lesson...

No matter how much I learn from you guys, nor no matter how much my latest film may be a tad bit better than the previous efforts, I still have a heck of a long way to go and a lot to learn before I make anything really respectable. But I'm enjoying myself so much and my friends and family have been having a blast, that we'll definitely keep with it.

Thanks again for the reviews.
Posted: Sun, 24th Dec 2006, 9:20pm

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Mosk wrote:

The trailer needed a lot of work. The text was horrible the voice was too fake sounding
I'm not taking this point to pick on you Mosk, just to help you "get" the joke.

As Arktic pointed out this parody, the voice in the trailer in particular was preceded by the woman saying that they couldn't get James Earl Jones (the voice of Darth Vader) to do the Voice Over work (due to how much Jones would cost), hence the bad voice in the trailer.
Posted: Mon, 25th Dec 2006, 1:26am

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Im srry Garrison, I didn't know that this movie was supposed to be a comedy. Its still my opinion. The voice sounded horrible. It wasnt funny.
Posted: Mon, 25th Dec 2006, 2:03am

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This was decent. Nothing too special, but I suppose it's because of the actors timing for most of the scene that just didn't do it for me comedy-wise..


However, there was another movie on Fxhome awhile back called something like "The making of "Zombie Grandma" That was pretty hilarious.
Posted: Tue, 26th Dec 2006, 10:25pm

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This was fun smile The trailer cracked me up! Also liked the actors comments as he got into his car. and the cutting was very "Making of."

The 2 things id suggest would be having more of the actors sitting down doing a "Oh this was great, or that was great" much like the director was. In all of the behind the scenes things they often talk about how wonderful everyone was on set. that could have fleshed out the feel of the thign much more.

And the second is the length. After the trailer there was a couple of good moments, but it started to feel a little long. I think there was a couple of sections that could have been trimmed down, or rearranged. Seeing the actor with the spatulain the goofing off section wasnt as funny, because we had already seen the trailer. Rearranging those 2 shos could have made the joke punch harder.

Overall it was fun. Anything ith zombies is good, and I know how fun they can be to make. look forward to more!
Posted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006, 3:26pm

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Bryce,

What about the timing do you feel was bad? This is only my second film working with Jazzmanian and I'm really trying to get better. Any advice you can give would be appreciated. Thanks.
Posted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006, 3:51pm

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hey John

I would'nt concern yourself too much about "timing"......it really is'nt an issue....you've show your skills on one of the best comedy scenes I've seen on FXhome.
As Jazz has said the project needed some trimming and editing and the whole movie would improve greatly.
Posted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006, 5:08pm

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Jfish, Which role did you play?
Posted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006, 5:15pm

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Bryce007 wrote:

Jfish, Which role did you play?
He was Rascal the Wonder Bassett.

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Ok. Not surprisingly, in the credits, jfish is listed as "John Fish" starring as himself.
Posted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006, 6:47pm

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What's really weird is, I constantly mix up Jazzmanian with Syrovision's Productions. odd.


Anyways, I'm a big fan of absolutely Dead serious comedic tone played with absolute conviction, usually dealing with absurd material.

(Monty python, anchorman. Etc.)

So, When I see this, it kinda felt like people were entirely adlibbing it without having considered tone and timing.

That's only personal opinion though.. I really think you will do rather great with your next film.
Posted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006, 10:50pm

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Thanks for your comments guys. I really do appreciate any feedback given, positive or negative. Anything that can help me improve. I'm sure we can all improve a little. I know I have room.
Posted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006, 4:22am

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Its funny that I didnt even really know that this was a mockumentary untell just now. I guess I should have read the discription first. After watching it and knowing what its about I see a lot of humor in it. Nice Job