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Future Movie Thing... any ideas?

Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 6:15pm

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Ok, Jabooza and I came up with an idea for a movie we might do after our next project. It's in the future; years of technilogical advances have brought about almost superhuman fighting abilities and new weapon technologies. Everyone is implanted with a computer chip that makes them obedient to the dictatorship that rules them. However, the main character has a defective chip, and it makes him challenge the military rule.

So here's where I had several ideas about what happens. The original idea is that he goes against some local enforcers and defeats them. Another idea I came up with is that he joins a revolution, but it ends up that the revolution is a ploy to root out people who might go against the rule. It will probably be focused on the main character and have some cool fight scenes of him against the enforcers, and most likely will be 15-20 minutes long.

So, if anyone has a suggestion about the plot or an idea for the futuristic weapon technology, let us know!

Jabooza and DP
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 8:47pm

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I think the plots pretty cool and i really dont see any holes in it. If you want a fighting style of an inhanced human watch the Bourne identity or supremacy because thats what they have. If you want weapons why dont you make halo style guns and tweak them a bit you could also watch the show future weapons on militery or discovery channel which could give you some ideas. other than that i cant really think of any thing unless you came up with your own... oh yeah you could also have invisable camo i saw it on some show but there are tiny cameras and moniters all over the suit so it gives the impression of invisability to do the effect you could use compositelabs displacement. But yeah theres tons of stuff out there. good luck

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Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 8:52pm

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It sounds cool, but IMHO, I think the main basis for a good movie should not be based on violence (ie super-human fighting abilities). A strong dramatic and emotional basis for a plot would provide the support needed for a better story.

Look at movies like Spiderman. Yes there is a lot of violence and action, but the main basis for the plot is not him fighting back against something, killing someone, etc.. It's an emotional struggle for him.

The movie could be really great, but it sounds like the main focus is the violence, in all of your ideas. Try to come up with some emotional background and compelling information about your character. It will take your movie a whole step further.

Also, don't be afraid to stretch the length of your movie a bit if you need to. Emotions sometimes take a little longer to unfold than 15-20 minutes, so stretching the time a bit might be good, but don't state a time before you have a script or a finalized plot.

Hope this helps, and I also hope that your film works out! biggrin

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Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:00pm

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i dont think the movies main focus would be violence, since the main carachter is defective and he has to over come task that normally wouldnt be hard(in that time) so it will keep the viewer thinking hows he gonna do that or whats he gonna do next so it will even out between violence and stratogy but with violence comes emotion like if he joins the revolution makes a good friend and then he sees his friend die in battle so therefor emotion can come out violence... wow now that i look back i sound really... oh well wink

it would also be definatly a struggle with him self because he is defective because i know if i was defective and everyone else is normal i would always be thinking Why me, why not one of them. and that will make the movie more dramatic.

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Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:03pm

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Maybe I interpreted his post wrong, but here's what I noticed:

The original idea is that he goes against some local enforcers and defeats them. Another idea I came up with is that he joins a revolution, but it ends up that the revolution is a ploy to root out people who might go against the rule. It will probably be focused on the main character and have some cool fight scenes of him against the enforcers, and most likely will be 15-20 minutes long.
It looks like both of his ideas are very focused on the action, rather than character depth, but then again, I don't know what he hasn't said.

I'll wait for Penguin to answer though.

NickD
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:08pm

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oh yeah i see what your saying it does focus on violence but im sure as his story and plot evolve it will be more in depth. in the movie im making right now a coulpe of months ago all i thought about was action sequences but as time went on everything fell into place. but yes i see what your saying now.

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Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:08pm

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Exactly. Let me see what Penguin says when he responds.

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Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:13pm

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1 dollar budget wrote:

it would also be definatly a struggle with him self because he is defective because i know if i was defective and everyone else is normal i would always be thinking Why me, why not one of them. and that will make the movie more dramatic.
He's only defective in the way that he doesn't have to obey anyone, so it's a good thing.
You guys are right about there being emotion and we'll have to spend some time on making the movie have it.
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:42pm

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Pretty Good idea.. it sounds a bit like "The Island" plot. As far as futuristic weapon technology there are a few airsoft guns that might work like this http://www.airsoft128.com/xcart/catalog/VAP045_CYMA_99D_Tactical_Pistol-p-34096.html (Jungle Toy Is Not In UK)
Over all I think its a good plot and you should go with it! Good luck! smile
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 9:56pm

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I would also like to point out that this movie will not be out for quite some time, it just broke out of the 'idea-for-a-good-future-movie-at-some-point' stage. wink
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 10:05pm

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NickD wrote:

Maybe I interpreted his post wrong, but here's what I noticed:

The original idea is that he goes against some local enforcers and defeats them. Another idea I came up with is that he joins a revolution, but it ends up that the revolution is a ploy to root out people who might go against the rule. It will probably be focused on the main character and have some cool fight scenes of him against the enforcers, and most likely will be 15-20 minutes long.
It looks like both of his ideas are very focused on the action, rather than character depth, but then again, I don't know what he hasn't said.

I'll wait for Penguin to answer though.

NickD
Okay, penguin is back smile

Your ideas sound good. You may have interpreted my post wrong though, when I said tha it would be focused on the main character I meant that it would have more character buildup and the fights would be the climax. It would also add to it if his defects were actually handicaps, like that was the price he payed for free will. However, we would need to give him a realistic way to fight back too, so that's a dilemma.

Another cool idea that we came up with was that instead of killing the rebels, they use some futuristic stun technology to capture them and re-chip them, and then the remaining ones would end up fighting against their former friends.
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 10:13pm

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Dude I like the idea and if the execution is good it will probably rock but, not something against it just a fact, this is almost the same plot minus the superpowers of Equilibrium. If you haven't seen it go do so.


Good luck anyways though.
Posted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007, 10:24pm

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I have seen the island, but not Equilibrium. But also, about locations: We were thinking that in the future, they live in very bad conditions due to population growth etc. so that would make the sets much easier. It would be pretty cool if it could take place in a really futuristic-looking setting. Does anyone know how this could be pulled off?

EDIT: just realized, I've also seen bourne supremacy

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Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 12:32am

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i guess the only way would be to greenscreen but its know fun to greenscreen an entire movie
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 12:33am

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Try using practical elements in real locations to pull off your shots. A cheap fog machine, some light reflectors, and some spray painted cardboard should add a lot.

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Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 1:28am

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We were thinking maybe using real locations in cities but not out in the open, maybe like allies and stuff, then greenscreening open shots. The problem is that we need something to greenscreen onto, like a mineature set or maybe even a 3D model, exept we don't know how to build any of these yet so we need some help coming up with a sulotion.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 2:29am

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You should have something with Nanotechnology. That always increases the awesomeness of futuristic movies.
For instance, its not a chip... It's a nanochip located in the neural synpases! This main character, however, was involved in an accident that electrocuted his brain and shorted the nanochip located in his synapses. Not only does this make him superhuman, but he now has the power to resist. Something completely unbelievable like that.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 3:27pm

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Okay jmax... nanochip sounds much cooler. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 5:05pm

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You mean it sounds much cool er. wink I think this is gonna end up being a pretty cool movie...with alot more depth than Cobra 12 is gonna have too.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 5:49pm

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Yep, I read the first post and instantly thought of equilibrium too, though that's not such a bad thing as I love the movie.

As mentioned it's more or less the same movie, with equilibrium characters all take pills to keep their emotions from showing - noone gets angry or anything like that as so to stop any further wars.

*** possible spoilers ***

The main guy basically stops taking his pills and starts feeling all the emotions, such as getting really sad when listening to classic orchestral music. He then joins an underground movement to go against the 'government' leader. All of this leads to some of the most amazing gunfights you'll see for a long time razz

*** spoilers done! ***

Basically, you need to watch this movie! I'm worried you may be labelled a copy for making your movie, but i think if you watch Equilibrium then it will give you some idea as to how to develope your story at least. But just so you know, you movie sounds much to my taste and I'll look forward to seeing what you come up with. I have a movie planned, set in the future with advanced fighting etc so I'm even more excited to seeing what you'll come up with.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 8:43pm

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of course Equilirium from what I remember is pretty similar in overall plot to Fahrenheit 451 made in 1966. Guy whos job it is to destroy books to supress freedom of expression begins to question the validity of his job etc etc. Could be wrong though, I confuse easily at my age lol
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 11:01pm

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Logan's Run? The Island? The Forgotten? Brave New World? Dark City? 1984? Dark Angel? Seen any of these? Watch 'em, parts of them are your movie idea, verbatim.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 12:22am

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sounds a lot like Christian Bale's "equilibrium"....cool idea, nonetheless. i'd love to help with your stunts and martial arts btw!
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 1:33am

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Wow, people seem to like the idea! although it seems like we're accidentally copying like 500 existing movies... Oh well, great minds think alike wink

We were thinking of giving them force fields using effectslab's displacement map feature, but in the test it didn't come out looking as good as I had hoped... what would you guys reccomend for super-human hand-to-hand combat?
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 3:35am

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like someone said earlier, similar to Bourne Identity. although, it could be a little more sophisticated and robotic, since this is in the future. Kind of like the Grammaton Cleric in "Equilibrium". (sorry to bring that up again) I say a mix of muy thai, and stylized Kung-Fu. Maybe some kind of "energy" glove would look cool? When you strike it releases either energy or like electricity. IDK, just throwing out ideas.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 10:53pm

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Darth Penguin wants us to have them wear sunglasses to protect their eyes from futuristic ultra-violet rays but I think it's a bad idea...what about you?
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 11:08pm

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Depends if that's what you're going for. Could come across as cool, could be lame. It all depends on how well you can support things and make them seem possible, without getting annoyingly scientific. It also depends on if you want it to be down-to-earth and gritty, a la Mad Max; or surreal and clean, a la Sky Captain.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 11:53pm

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unless you make it sophisticated and not cheesy, i would say no to the sunglasses.
Posted: Wed, 24th Jan 2007, 8:54pm

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jmax wrote:

Depends if that's what you're going for. Could come across as cool, could be lame. It all depends on how well you can support things and make them seem possible, without getting annoyingly scientific. It also depends on if you want it to be down-to-earth and gritty, a la Mad Max; or surreal and clean, a la Sky Captain.
It's supposed to be kind of gritty.
Posted: Wed, 24th Jan 2007, 11:56pm

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Cool. That dark style is much more respectable when its done right, I know Sollthar would agree here, because this is what he's kinda doing with Nightcast. You want to keep it slightly comic though, because then your effects and acting don't have to look hollywood quality.
Posted: Thu, 25th Jan 2007, 12:54am

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Yeah. Be sure to look into some good color grading if you want this kind of film. It will take the visuals up a notch.

NickD
Posted: Mon, 13th Aug 2007, 7:31pm

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sounds alot like equillibrium 2 me
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hi there i was gonna make a film where it was like 1hour long and like a reel film/ why dont you do something like that it wil take awhile but with
visonlab or efefct software it wil be easy my site is www.jordondavey16.piczo.com if wannan contact me