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Adobe After Effects quality lightsabers with Effectslab.

Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007, 3:45pm

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DJP444

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Ok so today I was just messin around with the settings of lightsabers and I found almost an exact copy of a after effects saber.So here we go.

1st 4 point your saber.
next, make the 4 point feather at 4.
Now make the core feather at 15.
next the size of the neon glow, which is 43.
now the spread at 22.
Leave everything else alone.

Now copy and paste the 1st layer once.

The 4 point feather is still 4.
The core feahter is 21,
the size is 200
and the spread is 19.

And there ya go. After all this it should look like this-

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2095150235
Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007, 5:45pm

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Darth Stazz the Powerful

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hmm, im confused, i attempted your method but it does not seem to look like your picture. here's what mine looks like:

Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007, 5:50pm

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DJP444

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well remeber, if you put it into an image with lighting, and not just a black background, the light from the vid or image provides help to your glow, so try it with an image
Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007, 10:41pm

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This is similar to Redhawk's famous 'ILM technique', lots of info on which can be found here:

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=215775#215775

Personally I always use Redhawk's technique when doing lightsabers, it gives them a great glow and style.
Posted: Sun, 25th Feb 2007, 10:59pm

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morph5690

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just as a cool comparison i would like to see the same pic but with a abode saber, if you have the time to do so i would love to see it biggrin
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 4:29pm

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Darth Stazz the Powerful

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DJP444, why dont you make the effect in 2 layers, and then upload them into the downloads section and see if they appear there?
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 4:51pm

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morph5690

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or you can make a note of it in note pad and make it your self...(just a note razz)
Posted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007, 1:35pm

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Jabooza

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I foresee that the massive amount of feather would cause visibility of the edge of the prop if you’re filming in bright or somewhat bright conditions.

Coincidentally I made one that was designed to look like After Effects’s too and it looks like this: I submitted it to the website and it's still pending but I'm not sure It'll get in 'cause it looks kinda like Redhawksrimmer's too (not that I intended it to).

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Posted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007, 3:17pm

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Jabooza, I really love that blue color. Good job!

And to DJP444, I think the saber looks a bit boring. I would prefer som more color, but perhaps it's because of the picture it was composited on. But keep up the good work.
Posted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007, 3:37pm

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Jabooza

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vilhelm nielsen wrote:

Jabooza, I really love that blue color. Good job!
Wow, thanks!
Posted: Mon, 5th Mar 2007, 10:40pm

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I find the term 'After Effects' Saber to be a little misleading. Visually, The Fxhome software has always been able to provide a superior, broader and more easily manipulatable and dynamically editable form of LightSword Effect. Why are we trying to emulate a program which is in this regard, inferior?

And surely - it's a good idea to simply try and emulate the actual Film Lightsaber effect itself rather than the methods it may have been created with. You don't earn any kudos for which program you use, only the final result afterall...

-Hybrid.
Posted: Thu, 8th Mar 2007, 2:05pm

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Jabooza

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

I find the term 'After Effects' Saber to be a little misleading. Visually, The Fxhome software has always been able to provide a superior, broader and more easily manipulatable and dynamically editable form of LightSword Effect. Why are we trying to emulate a program which is in this regard, inferior?

And surely - it's a good idea to simply try and emulate the actual Film Lightsaber effect itself rather than the methods it may have been created with. You don't earn any kudos for which program you use, only the final result afterall...

-Hybrid.
Well I was trying to come up with lightsaber effects that Darth Penguin and I could use in Jabooza vs. The Penguinator (a duel that we filmed) so I did exactly what you say people should do: "emulate the actual Film lightsaber effect itself" but that didn't turn out too good. I like the effects that Ryan Wieber does with After Effects and they look pretty close to the movies too, so I decided to try to make my sabers look kinda like his...so I did. That's why I tried to make lightsabers that 'look like they do in Abode After Effects.'
But I can only speak for myself.
Posted: Thu, 8th Mar 2007, 2:32pm

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I forgive you. smile
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 4:45pm

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Jabooza Clog Booza,

If you don't get your AE lightsaber preset accepted, will you post your settings so everyone can use them?

Thanks in Advance,

JM33 cool
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 5:21pm

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Jabooza

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JediMaster33 wrote:

Jabooza Clog Booza,

If you don't get your AE lightsaber preset accepted, will you post your settings so everyone can use them?

Thanks in Advance,

JM33 cool
Maybe I could make a tutorial on how to make them...although I have already made a lightsaber tutorial (that I now realize wasn't all that good smile ). And I wouldn't want to post anything in this topic...that'd kinda be steelling. wink

But...maybe I will make one...
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 6:57pm

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I'm trying to submit a preset for my lightsaber. I've tried to make it as close to RVD2 quality so, hopefully I can upload it soon. Can't wait to see yours, that pic already looks great. Keep up the good work biggrin .
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 10:34pm

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Jabooza

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Thanks.
I've had my presetspending for a while now but there's never any more that have even been reviewed whenever I check the library.
Posted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 6:38am

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Corby

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I'm trying to submit a preset for my lightsaber. I've tried to make it as close to RVD2 quality
yeah i tired to make one like dorkman's and i tested it out and it seemed fine and looked GREAT so i submitted it but yesterday i went back and the preset seems to look different and not as good as i thot so now i don't mind if they don't except it
Posted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 9:32am

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Sorry about the backlog on pending presets guys, I'll try to get it all updated ASAP.
Posted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 2:30pm

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I've made a few different lightsabers using screen captures from RvD2 as a reference, and I think in order for them to look as good as they do in the film, you'd need the same (or very similar) lighting. Lighting is everything with lightsabers. It determines whether they look great or horrible. That's why most of the duels in the movies take place in darker, poorly lit places.
Posted: Thu, 15th Mar 2007, 10:31pm

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Jabooza

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As I assumed, my lightsaber presets didn't make it in because they already have similar ones in their archives.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007, 1:35am

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DJP444

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by al mean jabooza make 1 because this method i dont use anymore since it isnt as good as others.
Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007, 11:50am

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Jabooza

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Well the presets didn't make it in but I did make a tutorial about how to make the lightsabers I was talking about. You can find it here.
Posted: Sat, 28th Mar 2009, 7:14pm

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hi
i want to no how i can make that light saber effect on adobe after effects saber 2 can u help my? thanks
Posted: Sat, 28th Mar 2009, 8:25pm

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Sorry, are you asking how to create lightsabers in After Effects? Its very hard to understand what you are saying. If so, then the most popular, well-respected AE tutorial is Ryan Weiber's, and you should check it out here.

If you are asking how to make AE-quality lightsabers in EffectsLab (which would make more sense, since this is the EffectsLab Help forum), the follow the link in the post immediately preceding yours, or go to the tutorials forum on this site, which contains many tutorials on various lightsaber techniques. Or watch the video tutorials for the basics.
Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009, 10:06am

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You gotta wonder how FXhomer82033 stumbled across this topic, given that it's from June 2007. smile