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Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 3:58pm

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japan1

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does anyone have any good film ideas for action/thriller films? we have 9 people, some m16's and a really evil actor but we have no budget. i just bought effectslab lite and we all want to make a decent action film.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 4:31pm

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i dunno off the top of my head somthing like the evil person kidnaps a person and hold them hostage and the other people using there m16's need to get the person back. just a quick idea.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 4:33pm

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japan1

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thats sorta what we were thinking, we need big action sequences and a good opening, thats the bit we can't think of.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 4:33pm

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hhhhmmm, use your imagination, how many films do you see with m16's, and an evil bad guy? loads.

there are so many action films that have been produced its going to be very hard to come up with an altogether original idea. you could use one of the following plots:

1. someone kets kidnapped due to the knowlage/product they possess. only one team can save him/her: the guys with the m16's.

2. a deadly virus has been stolen by a crack team of guys with m16's, one man must go undercover and infultrate the gang and save the world.

i just came up with those right now on the spot, and whilel i think they are by no means great it just shows that if you sit down and satrt to flesh out your story, bounce some ideas off your freinds you'll soon come up with something. biggrin

also as you have only just got the software, i suggest not going to over the top with the effects which i know when you first get it is very hard not to do.

hope you have fun with your movie.

dan.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 4:39pm

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why not for some random reason the m16's get destroyed and they have to rely on there tactical training of somthing. i dunno agian somthing off the top of my head nothing that great about it but not sure if its any help though.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 6:26pm

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An action movie you want, Well let me think think
heres one a small recon unit is sent to find out what happen to a city that had a black out. As thier Black hawk enter the city , their chopper loses control and crash lands in the middel of the city. So they must find their way out of the city but as they leave the city they find it emtpy of life. Every one is dead, They a wacked out person who doesn't make since.
They team also learns that they weren't the only recon team sent in to the city, they were the third. They find this out when the find two other choppers and bodies of dead soilders. Yet they seem to look like they were shooting at something and looks like they were killed by friendly fire.
At the end the only team members our make it out of the city, the others were killed by mines laid in the city and sinpers, but at the end of the story we find out that the first recon team was sent in but went insane after a few days trying to find out how the city lost power...... sad
I lost my train of thought but their some things in their...I hope
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 7:41pm

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Why don't you try making a movie built around plot and story, rather than action sequences primarily?
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 7:55pm

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NickD is right on track. However, you have the option of making a mindless action short as an effects test or you could do a long planned-out film with action in it.

If you just got the program and haven't done anything with it yet, then I would lean towards an effects test. You don't need a story for those, and they're easy to do while keeping the viewer immersed in the action. They usually only take an hour to film and can be finished in one day, unlike larger projects.

In short: practice with an effects test, then move on to the big stuff.

A longer movie could come after the effects test just to show that you're capable of doing all the necessary editing and work to successfully complete a large project.

Cheers
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 8:06pm

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I rather agree that a good film comes from a good script, so why not just make a single-scene (hostage rescue, maybe) and treat it as an effects test

PS - don't forget to stay away from the public if you're playing with (even) mock guns - see this forum
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 8:12pm

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Lithium Kraft wrote:

However, you have the option of making a mindless action short as an effects test or you could do a long planned-out film with action in it.
It should be noted though, that you can still make a short film (20 min or under) that is filled up with action, but is centered around a strong plot and storyline. It's just hard though, when you are trying to weave a story into a movie of all action. I consider that a skill that comes with time and experience.

If you want to just make an effects test, do so, but do remember to regard it as an effects test only, and not an actual film.

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Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 8:18pm

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i got the hang of effectslab and i've done loads of tests n stuff, how long do you think a good action film should be before it goes rubbish?
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 8:37pm

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That question makes me assume that you haven't grasped the idea that my previous posts have tried to show you.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 8:54pm

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we got a basic storyline, i diplomat get executed in a cafe by an evil terrorist organisation. The government then send a squad of m16 wielding men to kill them, but they walk into an ambush and all get killed. thats where our plot started to fade, from there the government need to kill the terrorists.
we want to include politics/action so it would get really boring
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 10:23pm

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I don't understand why terrorists always have to be evil.


Anyways, good luck on your project.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 10:29pm

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You know something. Use a random word generator. Hey, I went out of my way. http://watchout4snakes.com/creativitytools/RandomWord/RandomWord.aspx
heres one. Now what you do is grab a pen and post it. Click the button, and write the word down. Do that 3 more times. Now close it. You can not change words you don't like. Now you sit there and look at those words. Trust me, an idea will come up. Challange yourself to use at least on of them. Let me know how this works for you.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 10:51pm

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i just tryed that and thought of a completely different film idea about an incompetant president. lol
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 11:08pm

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An idea none the less.
Posted: Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 11:41pm

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Slurvian Films wrote:

I don't understand why terrorists always have to be evil.

Anyways, good luck on your project.
This is an interesting thought. How about writing a compelling story told from the "evil" characters point of view? Take on the challenge of making him the protagonist. I'm always impressed with a story / show / movie that makes the audience empathize with the "bad guy". Usually this is more interesting than the typical "hero saves the day" story. What has he gone through to get him to this point? Edit some flashbacks into your story. Start your movie out with a bang, fast action and/or suspense, suck the audience right into the story from the get-go.. then ease them into the back story. Tie everything together in the end.. or, leave it open-ended for a sequel. Just some seed ideas for you - but it's all up to you, which is the great thing about writing / directing. smile

And I think it's great to brainstorm, and ask around for ideas, but ultimately just ask yourself this one question: what movie do I really want to make?
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 3:07am

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ccirelli wrote:

Slurvian Films wrote:

I don't understand why terrorists always have to be evil.

Anyways, good luck on your project.
This is an interesting thought. How about writing a compelling story told from the "evil" characters point of view? Take on the challenge of making him the protagonist. I'm always impressed with a story / show / movie that makes the audience empathize with the "bad guy". Usually this is more interesting than the typical "hero saves the day" story. What has he gone through to get him to this point? Edit some flashbacks into your story. Start your movie out with a bang, fast action and/or suspense, suck the audience right into the story from the get-go.. then ease them into the back story. Tie everything together in the end.. or, leave it open-ended for a sequel. Just some seed ideas for you - but it's all up to you, which is the great thing about writing / directing. smile

And I think it's great to brainstorm, and ask around for ideas, but ultimately just ask yourself this one question: what movie do I really want to make?
That is a pretty good idea I must say.


I've always wondered why people view all terrorists as evil.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 3:38am

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Well... me and my friend has made a game with a story. I decided to make a movie, but the resources needed are incredible. then we came up with a prequil idea. It is about special military troops sent to put down a terrorist organization. The theory behind our idea is, there are terrorists threats arising everyday. The only reason that we, the people of america, or even the rest of the world, do no hear about them, is because they are immediately put down by these elite soldiers. But the soldiers are constantly replaced because, the terrorists are the good guys. They are groups with proof of american conspiracy, and the us elimate them before they can spread the word throughout the rest of the world. THese troops find out about this, and when they come back, they have the knowledge, or better yet doubt, and are killed, being replaced so no one can find out about americas secret. Some terrorists, like al-quaida, try to stop america using violence and war. in the movie, the terrorists are trying to tel the rest of the world, showing everyone the truth. The newest troops go in, and suceed, but wonder, about what they find out. After an attempted assasination, they escape, joining a terrorist group. USA decide the secrets out, and carry out their world invasion to create a Utopia.

So ya, there the terrorists are good guys.
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 12:44pm

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Terrorists are the enemy's Freedom Fighters. Even for something like 7/7/2005, they had reasons for what they did, which were completely rational to them, even if they make no sense to me.

Most of the Rambo (etc) films are 'one man against country x'-kinda films - someone who attacks and blows up lots of bits of a country (probably portrayed as evil/corrupt, but that's quite a value judgement) in the name of (the truth/justice/their way of thinking). If that isn't terrorism glamourised, what is?!
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 2:23pm

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Christofer Matthias

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Slurvian Films wrote:

I don't understand why terrorists always have to be evil.
Look at what terroists have done in the U.S. and Great Britan recently.... Killing innocent people, because they don't like the government that they live under....if that's not evil I don't know what is!
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 4:11pm

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Please, let's not turn this into a political debate guys.

To original poster: These ideas could very well work for you, and provide some depth as well. I'd look into them.

NickD
Posted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 5:53pm

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you guys on this forum are really helpful, we got loads of ideas from this and are adapting them to fit into our film.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2007, 12:19am

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KA Productions wrote:

You know something. Use a random word generator. Hey, I went out of my way. http://watchout4snakes.com/creativitytools/RandomWord/RandomWord.aspx
heres one. Now what you do is grab a pen and post it. Click the button, and write the word down. Do that 3 more times. Now close it. You can not change words you don't like. Now you sit there and look at those words. Trust me, an idea will come up. Challange yourself to use at least on of them. Let me know how this works for you.
A useful site, although people should use a random word for a specific topic like Thriller and it will say FEAR and stuff. I struggle on ideas as well but I just stop and smell the roses biggrin