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Posted: Tue, 6th Mar 2007, 5:11am

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It's that time again. This review is spoiler free!

I just got back from a preview screening of 300. This one has been pretty hotly anticipated by myself, and I'm sure many of you. I'm sure that many of you will find what you are looking for in this movie, and in turn love it. I, however, did not. This film was an incredible disappointment.

I'm a huge fan of Miller's writing, but for whatever reason, I felt like 300 had the most predictable and tired dialogue, which wasn't helped by the acting (Butler and Wenham were especially bad in my humble opinion). Remember all those movies you saw with a bunch of guys yelling stuff about honor and crap? Yup, that about sums it up.

Case in point, I feel like I've already seen this movie before. It manages to use elements I saw in Gladiator, Lord of the Rings, Phantom Menace, Braveheart, etc etc. I'm aware that 300 came out as a comic book before some of these movies, but that got me feeling that maybe 300 should have stayed a comic book. I am starting to agree more and more with Alan Moore that comic books should never be made into films. While a few have gotten it right (V for Vendetta, Sin City, X-Men 1 and 2), I feel like comics are comics for a reason.

The movie did have some cool action sequences, though they grew repetitive before the movie hit it's mid-point. You can only see 8 trillion guys get speared before you want to see something different. And when the movie was different, I enjoyed it. I loved the weird, abstract monsters, mutants, and creatures. I felt like maybe if there had been more of this, and less "I'M A MAN OOOOOAAAAAHHH" I would have enjoyed the film much more.

Anyway, I was pretty disappointed. The action was cool, but it wasn't good enough to hold up the slack of the bad dialogue and acting. I probably would have appreciated the movie as mindless fun if it hadn't tried to be something else. I would give this movie 2/4 stars.

If Zack Snyder screws up Watchmen, he's on my list.

What did you all think?
Posted: Tue, 6th Mar 2007, 5:50am

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Waser wrote:

It manages to use elements I saw in ....... Phantom Menace
So... it had a kid who was horrible at acting, added characters that were merely for children's entertainment, brought about ridiculous technology that disappeared/devolved completely over the course of a few years, and completely changed the mythos of the originals on a whim with no reason? razz
Posted: Tue, 6th Mar 2007, 5:53am

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No, it was more along the lines of the whole chpore snipit thing, but yours works too.
Posted: Fri, 9th Mar 2007, 10:24am

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I personally thought that it was pretty bad ass. I got everything I expected out of it. Stunning cinamatography, wierd creatures, and lots of blood. The story was decent enough and the dialouge wasn't as bad as the harsher reviews made it out to be.

SO most of you will probably enjoy it, its not a 10/10, but its good enough.
Posted: Fri, 9th Mar 2007, 11:19am

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It's nearly impossible for me to NOT love this. Full concensus when I check it out Via IMAX.
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 1:08am

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Totally kickass movie.

It was about 90% of what I hoped it'd be. The missing 10% was a more epic feeling of the Persian Army. They came in very very small waves and their numbers didn't feel overwhelming at all except for a few rare instances (and certainately not during the actual fighting).

That being said, it was still entirely kickass, and I thought Butler in particular was fantastic in his role.

EDIT - I can't believe more hasn't been said about this, the screening I went to was completely filled, and basically every single person at my school was seeing it on friday night or sometime this weekend.

Oh, and you get to see the new Spidey 3 trailer with a sneak peak of an unbelievable looking VENOM.
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 1:35am

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Wow.

Seriously.

This movie is freakin raw.
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 2:14am

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SPOILER ALERT!!!


I liked it a lot! Oh, don't get me wrong, there were some things I would have changed. The voice of the narrator was too thin and weak, he at times spoke too quickly, not like someone telling an epic tale. The acting was for the most part frustrating. The first Persian, the guy he kicks in the hole; his acting was TERRIBLE. Same for the fellow who got spear through his chest when asking the king to bow down near the end-pitiful.

I had to keep reminding myself that it was closely based on a graphic novel. That made it easier to buy into many of the techniques.

The fighting scenes were fantastic- I can think of no better. The dialogue was short and very matter-of-fact, no wasted words, kinda like I would think Spartans would speak(minus the use of any contractions, which I only was able to reconcile remembering again it was a graphic novel-NOT a history piece). The way the Spartans fought was perfect, not doing crazy Matrix stuff or anything, not overly showy, but they clearly showed their superior fighting skills. It would have been tempting to make them do flips and spins and stuff, luckily we were spared that .

This is the first movie in over 20 years that on the way home my wife said she wants to see again. Of course the sliced guys in next to nothing had nothing to do with that. LOL
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 2:23am

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It...was...so....bea-u-tiful!
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 5:29am

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I thought this film was brilliant. I loved almost everything about it. I went into it with anticipation, but hesitant expectations from the mixed reviews. The style was amazing, very badass action, and I thought the dialogue was fitting and there were a lot of witty lines that made me smile.

The Spiderman 3 trailer was awesome. I was actually watching 300 with Topher Grace's cousin. razz
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 6:43am

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One word, even despite its shortcomings;

Amazing.
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 10:52pm

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70 million between friday & saturday. Amazing.
Posted: Sun, 11th Mar 2007, 11:45pm

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man! i wanna see this movie so bad but my mom won't let me because its rated R! URGH!
While a few have gotten it right (V for Vendetta.......)
actually Alan Moore(the creator and author of "V for Vendetta) hated the movie version and said "[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives — which is not what the comic 'V for Vendetta' was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England." I didnt like it either. BUT I want to see 300 so bad!
Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2007, 2:39am

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Corby wrote:


Waser wrote:

While a few have gotten it right (V for Vendetta.......)
actually Alan Moore(the creator and author of "V for Vendetta) hated the movie version and said "[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives — which is not what the comic 'V for Vendetta' was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England." I didnt like it either. BUT I want to see 300 so bad!
I think that was Waser's opinion.
Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2007, 3:03pm

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Corby wrote:

man! i wanna see this movie so bad but my mom won't let me because its rated R! URGH!
While a few have gotten it right (V for Vendetta.......)
actually Alan Moore(the creator and author of "V for Vendetta) hated the movie version and said "[The movie] has been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... It's a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives — which is not what the comic 'V for Vendetta' was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England." I didnt like it either. BUT I want to see 300 so bad!
I've never really understood his disdain. While, as the creator, he's entitled to gripe about whatever, I thought the movie was absolutely fantastic and with the same air as the comic. I never for a second felt a metaphor for American liberalism (which I would, I'm an American liberal), and thought the whole thing had a very fascist-overlordy-feel.

Just thought I'd throw that out there in the moment.
Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2007, 9:38pm

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I agree with Atom. It made connections with today's world, but in different, less direct ways. I felt it preached more about individuality and breaking free of an oppressive society. Last time I checked, opression isn't mutually exclusive from leftism, and individuality isn't mutually exclusive from rightism. Maybe that's just me.
Anyway, back to 300. Did anyone else know this movie's budget was only $64 million? I feel crazy saying that, because 64 million dollars is a huge sum of money. But in hollywood, this is a pretty modest budget. It made a profit margin from its budget in only its first weekend in the box office! I guess that's one of the bonuses of keeping your budget down by not attatching too many big names to your project. That kind of budget makes the visual effects even more epic though.
Posted: Mon, 12th Mar 2007, 10:36pm

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It was all shot on a sound stage, which makes costs a lot cheaper. But it's cool what they pulled off nonetheless
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 4:37am

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jmax wrote:

It made a profit margin from its budget in only its first weekend in the box office! I guess that's one of the bonuses of keeping your budget down by not attatching too many big names to your project. That kind of budget makes the visual effects even more epic though.
This actually isn't very good, at least not the profit margin. Sure, it was shot fairly cheaply, but it also was an incredibly inclusively-publicized picture, and judging by how much publicity and 'blockbusterism' the movie seemed to carry up to the release, I was undoubtedly surprised the opening only raked in $74 million. Spiderman, the Matrix, I guess these are greater-anticipated blockbusters- but when their hefty $400+ opening weekends are put up to 300s, it seems miniscule.

I dunno. All I'm saying, is that profit margins the opening weekend aren't uncommon for blockbusters, jmax.
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 1:50pm

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Atom wrote:

I've never really understood his disdain. While, as the creator, he's entitled to gripe about whatever, I thought the movie was absolutely fantastic and with the same air as the comic. I never for a second felt a metaphor for American liberalism (which I would, I'm an American liberal), and thought the whole thing had a very fascist-overlordy-feel.
The problem is that it was all very cartoony, with the fascist elements reduced to ridiculous stereotypes and buffoonery - particularly John Hurt's performance. V was also portrayed far too much as the clear-cut hero, rather than the dubious figure he becomes in the novel. I think Moore is spot on with his description, the only difference being that I actually rather liked it because of that. However, it is very simplistic and, ironically, far more 'comic booky' than the original comic.

drspin98 wrote:

I had to keep reminding myself that it was closely based on a graphic novel. That made it easier to buy into many of the techniques.
Eh?

300 isn't out here yet, but I'm thoroughly looking forward to it. From the trailer, it looks to have nailed the book rather well.
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 2:31pm

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atom wrote:

$400+ opening weekends
Heh, you should read your box office numbers slightly more clearly... A 400 $ opening weekend would be a catastrophe, and a 400 mil $ opening weekend hasn't happened yet. Ever... Not even close...

atom wrote:

I dunno. All I'm saying, is that profit margins the opening weekend aren't uncommon for blockbusters, jmax.
You really have no idea what you're talking about. smile

Actually, being profitable on the opening weekend alone is something that might happen to about 0,1% of all blockbuster movies. It is fairly uncommon. Yes.
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 3:23pm

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Actually, the film is still far from profit yet.

At least half of that alleged $70 million goes into the pocket of the theater chains that showed the film. So right there, the studio only made $35 million on the budget, a bit more than half its initial costs (which by the way, the original budget was 40 million so somehow they still managed to go $24 million over!!!), which means they are still in the red with the film. Although it is still ain't bad for a couple of days...

Then the studio will factor in All their advertising costs, which depending on how heavily they marketed it, will oscillate between 20 to 40 millions... So that brings us in near or over the $100 million mark... So to be back in the black, the film needs to gross about three times what it costed...
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 6:19pm

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Interesting Read....

TEHRAN (AFP) - War epic "300", a smash hit in the United States for its gory portrayal of the Greco-Persian wars, has drawn the wrath of Iranians for showing their ancestors as bloodthirsty "savages".

The press, officials and bloggers have united in denouncing the film as another example of "psychological warfare" against Tehran by its American arch enemy at a time of mounting tension over its nuclear programme.

"Hollywood declares war on Iranians," said the headline in the reformist daily Ayandeh-No of the film which tells the story of the 300 Spartan soldiers fighting off ancient Persians in the Battle of Thermopylae.

"It seeks to tell people that Iran, which is in the Axis of Evil now, has for long been the source of evil and modern Iranians' ancestors are the ugly murderous dumb savages you see in '300'," fumed the paper on its front page.

A cultural advisor to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad described the film as "American psychological warfare against Iran."

"American cultural officials thought they could get mental satisfaction by plundering Iran's historic past and insulting this civilization," Javad Shamaghdari told semi-official Fars news agency.

Three MPs in the Iranian parliament have also written to the foreign ministry to protest to the production and screening of this "anti-Iranian Hollywood film".

The film has already proved a major box office hit in the United States and, unsurprisingly, Greece.

It is highly improbable the film would ever be screened in the Islamic republic but contraband DVDs of the latest American movies are often available on the streets no sooner that they are internationally released.

Cyber savvy Iranians have already started online petitions and set off "Google bombs" against "300".

The furore over "300" is by no means the first time Iran has been left fuming over Western portrayals of its ancient history.

Iranians were also enraged by the 2004 epic 'Alexander' about the conquest of the Persian Empire and a notorious 2005 British newspaper review of an exhibition of antiquities which branded ancient Persia the "Evil Empire".
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As Tarn said its not out here yet but when it is I for one will not be going to see it. From the trailer to me it looks like a cliched pile of crap.
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 6:26pm

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Interesting stuff, Garrison. The amusing thing is that I imagine most audiences - especially the general mainstream - would never even think about connecting the events of 300 and the depicted Persian Empire to modern day Iran or Iranians, as I doubt they'd be aware of the relation.

Of course, now that Tehran has kicked up such a fuss, everyone is going to know about it and make the connection.
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 6:32pm

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Tarn wrote:

Interesting stuff, Garrison. The amusing thing is that I imagine most audiences - especially the general mainstream - would never even think about connecting the events of 300 and the depicted Persian Empire to modern day Iran or Iranians, as I doubt they'd be aware of the relation.

Of course, now that Tehran has kicked up such a fuss, everyone is going to know about it and make the connection.
That's what I was thinking.....

I wasn't even thinking of this connection until I read this. I was just looking at the movie as just... a movie. Nothing beyond that.

Now, I'm a complete mess that Hollywood let this morally unrighteous film out to the public.... I feel like I personally need to apologize to the people of Persian decent (sarcasm)
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Yeah, let's make some more WW2 film and kill some germans. Cause the germans are ACTUALLY evil. smile
Posted: Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 6:37pm

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I know Sollthar.... Man I just wish the world could grow up.
Posted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 12:17am

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If they really thought it through before jumping to conclusions, they would probably attack Frank Miller and the original graphic novel first, but obviously we nasty Americans just wanted to take a little jab at those gosh-darned Iranians.
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John Carter wrote:

So that brings us in near or over the $100 million mark...
So he just doesn't include those other figures in the number he says in interviews? That doesn't make much sense. Budget figures are usually more all-inclusive, rather than only a part of the money spent around a movie. Maybe he took a liberal number to talk up the "low budgetyness" of the movie so it appealed to indie and comic book audiences more. I dunno. It's odd, and I'm probably reading into it too much.
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A films "production budget" is the amount it cost to make.

The prints, advertising budget etc isn't accounted into that, but the studio also has to pay for that as well.
Posted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 1:09am

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Evman wrote:

If they really thought it through before jumping to conclusions, they would probably attack Frank Miller and the original graphic novel first, but obviously we nasty Americans just wanted to take a little jab at those gosh-darned Iranians.
*Exactly what I was thinking.

And even funnier, the impression I got from the Persians in '300', Xerxes especially, was that they sought conquest and submission, not annihilation. Even better, they say '300' portrays them as ancestors of "murderous, dumb, blah, blah". I found Xerxes to be the most logic-seeking and intelligent, albeit tyrannous, character in the film. And wasn't he........yeah.......he was an Iranian, apparently. Or so the news is misconstruing.
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I'm sure this has already been shown/addressed, but for those Watchmen fans (Waser), there's a single frame of Rorshach in the 300 trailer. Here's a super-dee-duper hi-res.

Posted: Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 5:00pm

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God that picture is cool. But I'm so sure that movie is going to blow.
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I know this may offend some, but, what's Watchmen?
I've heard enough references to it in this thread that I just had to ask.
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An Alan Moore comic book series. Think "V for Vendetta" with DC characters (sort of) when superhero-ing is outlawed.
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It's pretty much regarded as the king of all comic books (or so it seems). It was on Time Magazine's list of 100 best novels of the past century, and it's the only comic book on the list. I personally think it is was one of the best works of literature I have ever read.
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*Waser quickly counts the works of literature he's read:

1. The Ring Two: The Novel
2. Watchmen
3. Arthur's Great Adventure
4. Dr. Doolittle Goes to Town
5. The DaVinci Code
6. Harry Potter 1-6
7. The Complete Book of Star Wars



Yep, Watchmen is definitely the best. wink
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jmax wrote:

I know this may offend some, but, what's Watchmen?
Alan Moore's seminal work, focusing on a more 'realistic' approach to superheroes - one of the first to do so. It's notable due to very few of the 'super' heroes actually having any super powers. It's damn good stuff.

Great artwork too - it's extremely cinematic in its use of comic book framing, so is worth a look for anybody interested in cinematography.

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An Alan Moore comic book series. Think "V for Vendetta" with DC characters (sort of) when superhero-ing is outlawed.
Well, other than the fact it's absolutely nothing like V For Vendetta and it doesn't have any DC characters in it, that's a spot on description!
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Atom wrote:

*Waser quickly counts the works of literature he's read:

1. The Ring Two: The Novel
2. Watchmen
3. Arthur's Great Adventure
4. Dr. Doolittle Goes to Town
5. The DaVinci Code
6. Harry Potter 1-6
7. The Complete Book of Star Wars


Actually, The DaVinici Code is balls. And so are the Star Wars novelizations. So are Harry Potter 2 and 6. And I'm pretty sure you called The Number 23 "genius". And you're mean.
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I didn't mind the Da Vinci Code as a cleverly woven work of fiction.
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The Da Vinci Code is true!!! It's all true!!!
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Tarn wrote:

jmax wrote:

I know this may offend some, but, what's Watchmen?
Alan Moore's seminal work, focusing on a more 'realistic' approach to superheroes - one of the first to do so. It's notable due to very few of the 'super' heroes actually having any super powers. It's damn good stuff.

Great artwork too - it's extremely cinematic in its use of comic book framing, so is worth a look for anybody interested in cinematography.
In the vein of being 'realistic', none of the heroes are body builders, in fact, a couple of them have beer guts if I remember.

But I thoroughly enjoyed the comic book.
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Yes, but Dr. Manhattan was blue, and had a wang. And you see his blue wang.

That was on topic I swear.
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Sollthar wrote:

The Da Vinci Code is true!
So French Police sirens are really that annoying?
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This blew my mind with awesome. 7/5 easy. I absolutely loved it.
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Waser wrote:

Yes, but Dr. Manhattan was blue, and had a wang. And you see his blue wang.

That was on topic I swear.
Forget the book list, now Waser's got a schlong-sighting list. smile
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Let's see. I've seen Harold Perrineau's dong. Mr. Eko's dong. I think you see the night owl's dong at one point as well. Seen J. Jonah Jameson's dong. Also, if they've been on Law and Order, I have seen their dong. Trust me, you don't watch six seasons of Oz without seeing some dongs.

So about that 300 eh? Seems like I'm the only person who didn't like it.
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Waser wrote:



So about that 300 eh? Seems like I'm the only person who didn't like it.
Basically. smile
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Waser wrote:

So about that 300 eh? Seems like I'm the only person who didn't like it.
Not enough dong?
Posted: Fri, 16th Mar 2007, 6:15pm

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Leonidas didn't rank-up to Waser's "Dr. Manhattan" standards.
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A metaphysical, time traveling, beyond human comprehension, blue dong IS a hard act to follow.
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i could beat it.
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I saw this a couple days ago. I didn't like it.

Gerard Butler was ok, but the other acting wasn't great (apart from guy whose son dies - he got interesting after that said event). The rest of the movie seemed such a re-run of so many other movies. I won't say ripoff until I've read the comic, but I felt I'd seen it all before.

All the freaks in it were disconcerting... I imagine they are more appropriate and developed in the comic, but here they seem out of place and thrown in. Basically it's because the whole movie is Gladiator-meets Braveheart-meets Stargate or something similar... and narrated like Braveheart. So the sensibilities of the movies are the same, except this one has growling ninja soldiers with screwed up faces.

Stylistically, nothing great. Lots of spearing and slow motion, as well as repetitious script devices (sentence followed by "clever" twisting of words - e.g "This is where we fight. This is where they die"). The only bit that I visually liked was the flying spear and its shadow when Leonidas threw it at Xerxes, that was cool.

I didn't think I'd say this, but Troy was miles better.
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So this is what it's like to not be alone.......!
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I saw it last Friday and I didn't like it that much. The fighting was cool but it got old and tiresome (I found myself wishing the film would hurry up and end after awhile) and it just seemed like the whole film tried to be more than it was. The whole thing just felt like an epic wannabe and it fell way flat in my opinion.

There was some cool cinematography and the visuals were good for the most part but I really can't see myself wanting to see it again.
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I'm late, I know. But I needed to watch the film again AND have a look at the comic book before securing my opinion:

I went in seeing it with mixed expectations: Obviously, that the visuals were 100% to my taste and I think this is one of the best looking movies ever just from the trailer, yet alone the final film, upped my expectations. But I had low expectations for the rest of the film based on the trailer and on the fact I couldn't watch Sin City because it bored the hell out of me - knowing it was based on a comic by the same guy.

What I ended up getting was one of my new top5 movies of all time. I thought it was absolutely brilliant and I can't wait to buy it on the DVD and watch it over and over again. The visuals were flawless, just exactly the kind of visuals that get my heart pumping.

The story was simple and to the point and remained interesting throughout. Maybe I have a bit of Spartan blood in me, but many of the blatantly masculine testosterone heroisms gave me shivers and made me feel like shouting "THIS IS SPARTA!!!!" right there in the movie theatre. smile

I loved the way the dialogue was delivered and the story was told. Always far enough from reality to maintain that artificual comic feel I adore so much, but always close enough to reality so I could emote to it.


While my favorite film Sleepy Hollow was great because the script is highly intelligent and delivered food for my intellectual, philosophical side, this film delivered the food for my animal side. And that it did better then any other I've seen yet.


10/10 easily


TO BATTLE!
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Sollthar- you have a way with words which i do not! Exactly (Almost) how i felt! but you phrased it a whole lot better!
The disfigured creatures within 300 are a little off-putting- but you do forget about them after a while (Apart from the goat playing the banjo thing- that was hilarious!). The whole concept behind these deformities was to encourage the rest of Greece to fight the Persian invaders- When Dilios returns home he needs to provoke the Greeks to ally together to fight- simply saying 300 spartans defended against a million soldiers for several days doesn't seem TOO heroic- but including horrifying monstosities makes the Spartans seem God-like. And of course the Athenians and several other greeks were bitter rivals of the Spartans- if the men in red could do it- so could they biggrin
The monsters are all for narrative and story telling purposes. Once that's cleared up it's an amazingly worthwhile film to witness!
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Apparently there was this kid who overheard these two women complaining about the film and then they started to leave the theater. He ran over to the theater stairs and yelled "FOR SPARTAH!!!" and kicked them down the stairs. I believe he was arrested, but still funny as hell. No one was seriously injured.
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That's just stupid. Not funny.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 5:56pm

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Yeah that is getting a little over the top. Just shows teh influence movies have on people!
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I'd say shows how stupid and easy influencable some kids are...
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Fair point- wonder why it never has the same effect on them after watching political movies? unsure
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You kidding? After watching 'An Inconvenient Truth" I left the theater, got my baseball bat out of my trunk, and went around the theater's parking lot, beating the crap out of all the cars, screaming, "FOR MOTHER EEEEEARRRTTHHH!!!!!!!"
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Lmao! awesome!
I wonder if 300 will get an extended DVD edition? I have the full LOTR extended editions and i enjoy watching the hours of behind the scenes extra's!
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^ I'm pretty sure that there is no need for one.
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ben3308 wrote:

You kidding? After watching 'An Inconvenient Truth" I left the theater, got my baseball bat out of my trunk, and went around the theater's parking lot, beating the crap out of all the cars, screaming, "FOR MOTHER EEEEEARRRTTHHH!!!!!!!"
That's funny, Because After I watched 45 minutes of it, I turned it off while laughing.
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Haha, you must be one of those oil-grabbing, inattentive, oblivous, poverty-heightened, devil-befriending, war-encouraging monsters I always hear about.





Blast, what do they call them these days? Oh, right. wink
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Have you seen Sarah Silverman's spoof of "Inconvinient Truth" on her show? I thought that was funny.
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I never felt that either. My dad is pretty conservative and he didn't see it either.

He would have been like, "OMG, there goes the liberal media trying to shove thier liberal idealologies down my throat again"

And would have been like, "whatever floats your boat."

So yea, maybe the whole parallel to the bush administration just flew over my head. But I don't care, I still think it's a great movie.
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Not to turn this thread into something besides 300 (maybe I'm too late with all the talk of dongs and such), BUT I thought it was an alright movie. Inconvinient Truth brought up good points about where the human race is headed and what we can do to help our planet. The overall presentation (i.e. the creative license taken with statistics and scientific explanations) bothered me and detracted from the movie's message as a whole. I watched it to be informed, and felt like I was being told how screwed my generation was instead. Just my two cents.

300, however, made me wanna go beserk. Dunno. It was just so filled with energy and inspiration.