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Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 4:45pm

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Can anyone tell me a good (free) sound effect software. I want to add the sound effects for an upcoming short film. Light saber sound effects. But all the editing software (pinnacle and wmm) don't have the ability to make sounds overlay each other. Ls sound also doesn't work because when I export the sound it goes way to fast. Can someone tell me a software?
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 7:49pm

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http://fxhome.com/sounds/downloads.html

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Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 7:59pm

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you going to want to buy a better film editor if you are having problems matching up audio files.
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 8:07pm

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I said sound effects EDITOR not sound effects. I just need something to add sound effects to video.
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 8:11pm

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Super Effects wrote:

I said sound effects EDITOR not sound effects. I just need something to add sound effects to video.
Something tells me you don't know what you are talking about. There are various "sound editing" softwares out their, but they aren't what you want. What you want to get is a better film editor all together. Get off of pinacle and WMM and buy sony Vegas or adobe Premiere. In those programs you have unlimited audio tracks so you can add as many sound effects to video as you want at any given time.
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 8:14pm

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Well. I do have flash (witch i can use for sounds) but when i add the video to it the video will be pixely. Can someone help me with that if you have flash?
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 8:19pm

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As said before, please buy a good NLE (video editor like Vegas, Premiere etc. ) Your problem is probably gone then.
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 8:24pm

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Basically you need a video editing program that allows you to have multiple audio tracks- then you will be fine. There are lots of inexpensive editing programs that have multiple audio tracks.

There are some free ones out there like Zwei-Stein
http://www.zs4.net/
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 8:48pm

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I'll check it out.
Posted: Sun, 18th Mar 2007, 9:20pm

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Avid has a free editor too:

http://www.avid.com/freedv/
Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007, 5:58pm

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Just for anyone trying the free Avid...

This is a restricted version of Avid (hey, it's free), but has the same UI as practically everything else they make, right up to the $50,000+ systems. If you want to use top-end Avids in the future, there are worse ways to start than this free version

But beware, Avid's UI is non-intuitive in places. If you struggle with it, check the help files/Avid forum as opposed to grousing about the product - 85% of TV and Films still go via AVID at least at some stages, so there's massive invested knowledge in the UI, and once you learn it, you will never be able to go back to consumer NLE's!
Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007, 7:17pm

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Get off of pinacle and WMM and buy sony Vegas or adobe Premiere. In those programs you have unlimited audio tracks so you can add as many sound effects to video as you want at any given time.
I have Vegas...are you sure you can have unlimited tracks?
Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007, 7:31pm

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He's right, you can have a ton of audio tracks in Vegas - though the "unlimited" would depend on your processor and memory.
Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007, 8:01pm

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DavidLittlefield wrote:

Get off of pinacle and WMM and buy sony Vegas or adobe Premiere. In those programs you have unlimited audio tracks so you can add as many sound effects to video as you want at any given time.
I have Vegas...are you sure you can have unlimited tracks?
The Pro version of Vegas can have unlimited tracks- based on processor and memory.

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Posted: Mon, 19th Mar 2007, 9:48pm

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I have Vegas...are you sure you can have unlimited tracks?
Thats what the box says. I don't know whether it is literally infinite or if it justs means as many as you would ever need for a project.
Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2007, 10:19pm

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I downloaded avid free. Can someone tell me how to match the sound with the video and also add the sound to the time line. The video too. It is very confusing.
Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2007, 11:19pm

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Looking at Sollthar's Film Guide, scroll down to the pic right under "Soundediting".

Now while Sollthar's example is with Final Cut, Avid should have a timeline similar to it.

The top blue bars are video, and the green is audio. That's how you layer audio on separate tracks.

To answer your question as how to match the sound to the video, say you have a scene where a guy is punching someone, and you have the sound effect clip of a punch that you recorded or got from some sound effect website. After you import that sound into your NLE, you place it in the audio track of your NLE's timeline.

Playback. See if the sound matches the visual to your liking. If the sound comes too late, move it forward a few frames. If it comes too early, move it back a few frames until YOU are happy with the timing.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2007, 4:38am

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Garrison wrote:

Looking at Sollthar's Film Guide, scroll down to the pic right under "Soundediting".

Now while Sollthar's example is with Final Cut, Avid should have a timeline similar to it.

The top blue bars are video, and the green is audio. That's how you layer audio on separate tracks.

To answer your question as how to match the sound to the video, say you have a scene where a guy is punching someone, and you have the sound effect clip of a punch that you recorded or got from some sound effect website. After you import that sound into your NLE, you place it in the audio track of your NLE's timeline.

Playback. See if the sound matches the visual to your liking. If the sound comes too late, move it forward a few frames. If it comes too early, move it back a few frames until YOU are happy with the timing.
Yep-
but for the record, AVID isn't nearly as "drag and drop/slide things around" friendly as anything else- I'm working on an AVID at work (in fact I'm still here at 12:36am!!) cutting a short documentary style piece for a client- and for the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone wants to cut on an AVID anymore- things like FCP, Vegas, and Premiere Pro are all infinitely more intuitive and have great feature sets- I think I'll bring in my compy of Vegas 7 and install it on our AVID machine- that wouldn't make the boss happy...

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2007, 7:57pm

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Haha!

Let me stand up for Avid here - I still feel that once you've really got the hang of Avid (and it is counter-intuitive at times, I agree, like Photoshop can be!), you can never go back - the only problem is you have to sink a lot of work into understanding fully in the first place, and so FCP, etc are a lot easier to come to 'cold'!
Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2007, 11:29pm

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pdrg wrote:

Haha!

Let me stand up for Avid here - I still feel that once you've really got the hang of Avid (and it is counter-intuitive at times, I agree, like Photoshop can be!), you can never go back - the only problem is you have to sink a lot of work into understanding fully in the first place, and so FCP, etc are a lot easier to come to 'cold'!
Well, I know it is an industry standard, and I DO appreciate some of the workflow, but honestly, working with so many different types of media on a daily basis- AVID Xpress pro just can NOT handle it- I mean, can you drag an MPEG to the AVID timeline? NO. Can you drop a flash animation that your artist created onto the AVID timeline? NO. Can youwork at either the event or track level for every effect, audio tool,or plug in? NO. I mean just for audio reasons alone I am better suited to working with something like Vegas- the audio levels were all over the place in this thing beause it was a documentary style piece, and I was working with kids who don't speak very loudly- In Vegas I could have done ALL of the audio work right on the timeline!!by drawing envelope curves, etc.. can you draw an envelope curve of ANY kind in AVID? NO!!! Not to mention how many system resources it eats up, how picky it is with capturing video and everything else- it is just CLUNKY- and the projects start eating up TONS of hard drive space because of the way it has to create a new piece of media for everything you drag into it!

I have an entire list of things that Vegas can do that AVID can NOT do- yet when I talk to AVID editors, they say "Well, Vegas is cute, but it is lacking the high-end features of AVID..." and I keep asking them WHAT!?!? is it missing!! PLEASE tell me so I can stop wondering! That is a valid question- and all I get is "well, it's the industry standard, etc..." but no REAL answer as to what these amazing features are- In all honesty, I think just the opposite- unless you are using a high end Nitris system or something (which, by the by works more like Vegas...wink ) I think that once you try something BESIDES Avid, you willnever want to go back to AVID...

Also, photoshop seems counter intuitive because you use AVID- everything in PS is how it is in just about every other program...except AVID, where it is all reversed!

sigh-
Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2007, 1:20am

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What I'm saying is that when I drag the sound and video to the time line it doesn't work. Apparently you can't drag and drop in avid. Will someone tell me how to add media files to the time line?
Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2007, 1:51am

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Here's what I did:

1. I went to a Sony Vegas seminar.

2. I wrote my name on a piece of paper.

3. Once the seminar was over, they drew a name to win Sound Forge 8 and it was mine.

And viola! I now have Sound Forge 8!

Anyway, can't you just use Windows Movie Maker to match the sound and video up? If you want to create sound effects just use Audacity.
Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2007, 3:40am

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Super Effects wrote:

What I'm saying is that when I drag the sound and video to the time line it doesn't work. Apparently you can't drag and drop in avid. Will someone tell me how to add media files to the time line?
WELCOME TO AVID!

Yes- dragging and dropping, a standard practice in eveything else is probably NOT supported in AVID free- although you can drag and drop in Xpress Pro.

You probably have to go to a menu and "Import"
this will take whatever footage or sound file or anything else you try to use and turn it into "AVID approved formats" like Quicktime files or AIFF audio files-

In the meantime this means that it will CREATE a new piece of media on your machine in the new format- that way, AVID can eat up twice the hard drive space that ANY other NLE will for a given project !

Joy!

Just buy Veagas movie studio and be done with it.

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2007, 2:54pm

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I don't have the money to buy soney vegas. I don't have any money.
I'm having a garage sale and am saving for composite lab pro. But right now I just need to know how to add video and sound that I have in the bin right now to the time line.
Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2007, 7:42pm

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On the Avids we have at school, you have to double click the media in your bin. It will open a smaller window with that media in it. You then need to set your in and out points where you want them, on the timeline set your in point, and then hit "B" on the keyboard. It should add your media to the timeline.
Posted: Mon, 26th Mar 2007, 4:01am

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Super Effects wrote:

I don't have the money to buy soney vegas. I don't have any money.
I'm having a garage sale and am saving for composite lab pro. But right now I just need to know how to add video and sound that I have in the bin right now to the time line.
Well, if you don't have a decent video editing program to begin with- then composite lab pro won't do you much good...

and Vegas movie studio is only like 69.00 or less on Ebay brand NEW. Not only will you be able to do everything you want to do right now, you can do some greenscreening and compositing within Vegas movie studio as well- not to mention that it supports ACID music loops for quick scoring-and hundreds of other transitions and effects (you are limited to 4 audio and 4 video tracks though) but honestly, you need a decent editor first- then look into the wonderful, fine products of FXHome-
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