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Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 3:18am

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Horcruxes88

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Would any one here recomend a canon gl2 caus eim thinking of getting one ive been saving for a while
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 3:43am

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No, you'd be better off buying a real paperweight.
Y'know or search around, if you're really lucky and wish super hard you might find something around here about them. I think there's one guy that has one.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 5:03am

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A GL2? No, no you should not.

I mean its not the most talked about camera hear... It's THAT awful.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 6:39am

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Rawree wrote:

I think there's one guy that has one.
I'd say it's at least up to 3 people now, Rawree. Two words, my friend:

Message Ben3308.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 6:45am

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Last time I checked the gl2 is talked about in almost every thread. I have a GL2 and I highly recommend it.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 6:47am

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Dancamfx wrote:

Last time I checked the gl2 is talked about in almost every thread. I have a GL2 and I highly recommend it.
Someone needs to go back and take 'Sarcasm 101' over again.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 7:50am

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Atom wrote:

Dancamfx wrote:

Last time I checked the gl2 is talked about in almost every thread. I have a GL2 and I highly recommend it.
Someone needs to go back and take 'Sarcasm 101' over again.
What does that supposed to mean?
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 2:47pm

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Dancamfx wrote:

Atom wrote:

Dancamfx wrote:

Last time I checked the gl2 is talked about in almost every thread. I have a GL2 and I highly recommend it.
Someone needs to go back and take 'Sarcasm 101' over again.
What does that supposed to mean?
It means his attempt at humour fell flat on its arse.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 10:08pm

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DO NOT BUY THAT PIECE OF POO!!!!! You should buy an xl2 its way better. gl2 = waist of money if you want a gl2 you would be better off saving up for a nice car that works.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 10:14pm

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Ok, well, if you haven't gotten the message. The GL2 is the most recommended camera on this site. 90% of people here are in love with it.
Posted: Sun, 1st Apr 2007, 11:16pm

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Wired Film wrote:

DO NOT BUY THAT PIECE OF POO!!!!! You should buy an xl2 its way better. gl2 = waist of money if you want a gl2 you would be better off saving up for a nice car that works.
I am hoping that's a joke...
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 1:12am

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I might be making some enemies here, but I would not recommend buying a Canon GL-2. And I'm not joking. From personal experience (I bought my GL-2 in January of 2003), I found the GL-2 to be user-friendly, quite inexpensive among the other 'prosumer' cameras available at the time, and produce quite a good image. But in 2005, the *@@*%#! zoom rocker switch broke on the thing. Try to zoom in or out with no results. I found out on a GL-2 users site that Canon had a history of the rocker swithces breaking on the GL-1 and GL-2. So now my GL-2 is used exclusively for transferring video to my computer via firewire.
So when it came to buying a new camera, what I looked for in the same price range as the GL-2, was a camera with a zoom ring. I settled on the Sony VX-2100, in my opinion a much better camera than the GL-2. Larger CCD's (1/3 inch on the Sony vs. 1/4 inch on the Canon), and the chips on the VX-2100 are the HAD type. This means that the part of the chips that grab light are bubble-shaped and lower the amount of video noise that gets recorded. I know that with pixel shift technology, the GL-2 has a higher amounf of pixels that the chips create, and the GL-2 has a better zoom, but I've had clients that can tell the difference between the two cameras. I's done two videos for a Mural Society about their mural program, and they love the quality of the VX-2100 vs. the GL-2, and I have to say I agree. And I've become quite adept at manually zooming and focusing with the VX-2100's zoom and focus rings simultaneously. I also like the little rubber piece behing the 2100's mic that allows for some wobble as the camera is used.
But can anyone here put this question to rest: Is there a problem overall with Canon's zoom rocker switches? I would consider buying another Canon in the future if I could find this out once and for all. I've called Canon and got no response to this question, just told that there was no ovrall problem with the GL-2.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 1:13am

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Might as well just keep saving. I mean the gl2 is nice and all, but I just can't see myself spending 2k on it and actually being happy with it.

Why not just keep saving and get a AG-DVX100B
It's got a better film quality look to it and from what I've heard the audio pick up is much better then the GL2.

I'm just saying, if you're going to spend a lot of money on a camera, don't just go with what's the cheapest for the high end cameras, but go with what is affordable and with what you'll be completely happy with.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 1:31am

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Wow, you guys really like your cameras wink! Personally, I own a $300 camcorder with an OK zoom, a bit below-average audio pickup, and average video quality. But when I render my video in VLab, it seems like the video quality is professional! Yay!

Anyways bottom-line is my don't buy my camera except if you've got an FXhome product.

wink
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 3:35am

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I suggest you try out a GL2 before you buy it. Atleast make sure it is up to your standards.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 5:08am

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Here we go, again. smile Tarn, let's make a
"Buying a 3CCD Cam? Ben and Atom's guide to why to buy a GL2!" Sticky, seriously. wink

Aside from these problems with quality, the camera and features itself seem to have no problem with the GL2 naysayers, am I correct?

Not that you're not entitled to your own opinion, but manufacturing and craftsmanship errors aren't part of the product you buy, they're an unintended fault in it, common or not. And either way, not that this changes anything for those unfortunate enough to run into GL2 mishaps, things are covered under warranty and can be fixed/replaced fairly easily.

Unless you are seriously considering a completely different playing field, like HD, for miniDV 3CCD the GL2 will always be your best bet- money and price. If the image isn't up to what you're looking for, first off shame on you wink, and second off any other high-end prosumer 3CCD will give relatively the same thing, if not worse- and for a larger penny at that.

Yes, Gnome, the audio pickup is better on the DVX100b. Of course it can afford to be, it's $2,000 more than a GL2. For that, I could and WILL buy a 35mm lens adapter and a Rode Videomic, and still have extra cash left over. And all those combined, you've got yourself a super camera.

Personally, I've had my GL2 nearly a year and a half now and use it everywhere for everything and never/rarely (Ben might've had some problem once or twice, I don't know) had any trouble with it or the zoom grip or the tape deck. Maybe I'm just lucky, but there seems to be a correlation with used/old GL2s and manufacturing problems.

Get a fresh new one from Canon or buy a newly-used one, and I'm sure you'll be fine. Not satisfied? We can't have that!

Stills!
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 6:10am

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Finally atom and Ben get their word in. Ive been waiting for you guys, you save me alot of typing considering we have the same views of the almighty GL2.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 7:28pm

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Atom wrote:

Yes, Gnome, the audio pickup is better on the DVX100b. Of course it can afford to be, it's $2,000 more than a GL2. For that, I could and WILL buy a 35mm lens adapter and a Rode Videomic, and still have extra cash left over. And all those combined, you've got yourself a super camera.


Canon GL2 - $1500 (ebay'd)
SG35 adapter & rods (w/ pro mods) - $450
Nikon 50mm SLR lens - $50 (ebay'd)
Beachtek DXA-6 - $180 (ebay'd)
IndiFocus Gear - $390
Indiesnap DV Mattebox - $190
Xenarc 700v 7" LCD - $200 (ebay'd)
Israeli Arm - $140
---Total-------- = $3100

completely satisfied considering how little i paid for a 35mm adapter setup. mostly purchased from ebay back in 2005 and still runs like a champ today. never had a problem with the zoom rocker switch (you can forget about zoom when using a 35mm adapter), or the tape mechanism. i use the oktava mk012 hyper for sound pickup so quality of the built-in mic doesn't worry me. when people ask what the hell is that i'm shooting on i proudly say the canon GL2.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Apr 2007, 9:10pm

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Chief Corn, What does all that stuff do? Thats one monster of a Gl2! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007, 12:37am

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Fantastic camera. Very durable/sturdy and I've never had any problems with it.

It'll probably be "out of date" soon though, but I got mine two and a half years ago and I'll keep it as long as I possibly can.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007, 12:47am

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Hey Cheif Corn,

I was thinking of purchasing the Indifocus gear for my 35mm adaptor, is it worth buying? What do you think of it?

Nice set up, btw.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007, 5:17am

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Chief Corn wrote:

Canon GL2 - $1500 (ebay'd)
SG35 adapter & rods (w/ pro mods) - $450
Nikon 50mm SLR lens - $50 (ebay'd)
Beachtek DXA-6 - $180 (ebay'd)
IndiFocus Gear - $390
Indiesnap DV Mattebox - $190
Xenarc 700v 7" LCD - $200 (ebay'd)
Israeli Arm - $140
---Total-------- = $3100
While that is a compelling reason for the economical side of the GL2, and I'd LOVE to see some video with the adapter, like you said the price isn't a completely fair representation. Noted, ebay is cheaper and sometimes faster, but not always reliable and not always the price you want.

Although I'm not surprised you got a GL2 for $1500, that price isn't always common for a good quality one, if you know what I mean. (How does that sweet 7" LCD hold up while filming outdoors?)

Safe side for GL2 prices, I'd look right at $2000. Now you can both taken for a ride or really really lucky and strike a good deal, but all-in-all you're looking at 2Gs for the camera alone.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Apr 2007, 8:27am

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Dancamfx wrote:

Chief Corn, What does all that stuff do? Thats one monster of a Gl2! biggrin
the 35mm adapter gives you control of the shallow depth of field like blurring out something in the foreground or background to draw the viewers attention. the beachtek allows you to use xlr mics through the mic input. the indifocus is a follow focus which easily pulls the focus ring on the slr lens. the indiesnap mattebox allows you to slip in filters like n.d and polarizers, and shades from unwanted light. 14lbs all together...not the funnest to carry around. confused

hatsoff2halford wrote:

I was thinking of purchasing the Indifocus gear for my 35mm adaptor, is it worth buying? What do you think of it?
it has some play in it meaning it takes a little for it to get the turn started but nothing noticeable. the gearbox is 1:1 but it's not a true 1:1 ratio because of the size of the gear it has to turn. i originally bought the gearless because the design of the geared version wasn't yet in production and the foam wheel or whatever it was didn't have enough grip to turn the focus ring. i don't have experience with the more expensive follow focuses so i can't completely recommend it but at $250 less than the similarly designed redrock follow focus it's hard not to recommend.

Atom wrote:

Although I'm not surprised you got a GL2 for $1500, that price isn't always common for a good quality one, if you know what I mean. (How does that sweet 7" LCD hold up while filming outdoors?)
supposedly my canon gl2 was used for one shoot so it was just luck of the draw to get it at that price and in pristine condition. the xenarc 7" lcd in particular has the ability to do 800x480 resolution but it's being outputted through composite cable so the color is muddy and soft. i actually prefer looking at the gl2's 2.5" lcd with a magnet over the 7" when outside...maybe i'll give the hoodman a shot but it's already dark as it is.
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 4:21am

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ok, with the GL2 being crap... i have one, i bought in used for $500, and you can find it online, for $800 with factory two year warranty.

ps guys, its not the camera that makes or breaks the movie, its the movie its self.
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 2:39pm

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Helios9k wrote:

ok, with the GL2 being crap... i have one, i bought in used for $500
Well then thats why its crap. If you buy a $2000 camera for $500 then obviosly its not going to work right...
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 3:43pm

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Helios9k wrote:

ok, with the GL2 being crap... i have one, i bought in used for $500, and you can find it online, for $800 with factory two year warranty.

ps guys, its not the camera that makes or breaks the movie, its the movie its self.
In all seriousness, where the hell did you buy a $500 GL2, and how are you stupid enough to take the deal without thinking it wasn't legit? Honestly, most cameras IN GENERAL cost over $500.
Posted: Sun, 10th Jun 2007, 3:42pm

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as for where I got it, a fellow film student upgraded to an xl2, and sold the gl2. quite easy, i inspected the camera and used it before buying, what more could I have asked for...