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I need advice on camcorders

Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:08am

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I am considering several camcorders to purchase for a short film. This short film will be an action sequence shot both in and out of doors.

The camcorders I'm looking at are:

The Panasonic AG-DVX100B 3-CCD

The Sony DCR-VX2100 3-CCD

And the Canon GL2 3-CCD

I'm looking for any sort of advice, recommendations, or whatever from anyone who has worked with any of these cameras. The sort of thing I'm looking for is Picture (particularly color) quality, clarity, durability, and longevity (I've had camcorders die on me).

Very super much appreciated!!!! smile
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 12:55pm

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I don't know how the GL2 compares to your other two options, but 90% of fxhomers seem to recommend the GL2.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 2:48pm

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GL2!
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 5:25pm

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Go GL2. That's what I would get if I had that much money.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 6:52pm

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I have noticed that Fxhomers are in love with the GL2

What sets it apart from the others?
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 7:18pm

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Ballowall wrote:

I have noticed that Fxhomers are in love with the GL2

What sets it apart from the others?
The Panasonic AG-DVX100B 3-CCD: $3,349.90
The Sony DCR-VX2100 3-CCD : $2,170.99
The Canon GL2 3-CCD : $1,699.00
These prices are what I found...

Considering that the GL2 is cheapest and everyone says that its a great camera...
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 7:20pm

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Ballowall wrote:

I have noticed that Fxhomers are in love with the GL2
Go careful with this though. 90% of Fxhomers may recommend it but I'd say 90% of those don't own one.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 9:49pm

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Thrawn wrote:

Ballowall wrote:

I have noticed that Fxhomers are in love with the GL2

What sets it apart from the others?
The Panasonic AG-DVX100B 3-CCD: $3,349.90
The Sony DCR-VX2100 3-CCD : $2,170.99
The Canon GL2 3-CCD : $1,699.00
These prices are what I found...

Considering that the GL2 is cheapest and everyone says that its a great camera...
That is one good reason. I've actually found a website that (at least for now) sells all of these under 1000 American dollars

Expresscameras.com (although I suspect there may be a catch to it)
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 9:52pm

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Big Scam! Do NOT buy from them. They tell u your item is out of stock and try to sell you a bunch of other stuff. Mean while they have your CC number.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:16pm

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Yeah I knew that was too good to be true.
Anyone know where i can get one at a good price?
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:25pm

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Well http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product.aspx?omid=113&ref=dealtime&utm_source=DealTime&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=CNVGL2&sku=CNVGL2 has a good deal. You get a $250 also.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:37pm

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Does buying a used camcorder have any merit?

I understand thats a mixed bag, but generally is that a good ldea?

And how do you put that "Current film production" thingy on your thing?
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:43pm

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Go to
User Preferences then Forum Options.

Buying a Camera Used is not always a good thing.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:47pm

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Yeah I figured it out, and thanks for all your help!
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 11:06pm

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Having extensively used the GL2 and the DVX100, I would highly recommend the DVX100 over the GL2 in every way. The picture quality is better, the controls are better, and there are more of 'em, the audio inputs are better, the camera itself is much beefier and sturdy, you get true 24p, the only thing that isn't better is the price. So if you are honestly able to get whichever one you want, I would go with the DVX100.

Don't get me wrong, the GL2 is a nice camera. But the DVX100 outperforms it in every area, in my experience.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 11:55pm

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Hmmmm I see, you people are making choosing even more difficult! lol

But seriously, I appreciate the feedback.

Anyone recommend the Sony?
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 12:40am

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If you have all the money together to get a DVX, get one. But keep in mind if you're serious about movie-making, you're going to need a boom mic, lights, and a good fluid head tripod. So if you blow all your money on the camera, there's none left for accessories or anything else that may be necessary.

Just my 2 cents. I personally love the GL2, and am pretty much the one that started the "craze" on this site. It puts out a great image, better than most other 3CCD cameras (save the DVX models, HD cams, and the Canon XL-series) and it can be bought at a great price.

If you'd like me to post up stills or video, I'd be happy to. For now, I'll just put up the picture I normally do. Both stills are from my GL2.

Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 3:02am

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I'm thinking im definitely gonna go with the GL2

Heres another good question-who should I buy it from?
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 3:18am

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Find a bunch of reputable sellers on eBay and find the best buy. Really search for a good deal for about a month, and when you get a good one, buy it. If this doesn't work, the next (and what I should consider the only option) is to head over to B&H Photo and pick up one of the GL2 super saver kits.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 12:27pm

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Which of these is cheapest but better?

Canon GL2

or

Canon XH G1

Advice on cheapest and better cam please!
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 5:54pm

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I donno pixel edit, they say the xl1 is better but the GL1 is plenty cheaper
Posted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008, 1:41am

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You can find the AG-DVX100B--which apparently out preforms the GL2 in every way--for about $899 at http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=352090

Good Luck finding a camera.
Posted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008, 2:55am

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D3L3T10N wrote:

You can find the AG-DVX100B--which apparently out preforms the GL2 in every way--for about $899 at http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=352090

Good Luck finding a camera.
it doesn't even sell used for that price. it's a scam.
Posted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008, 3:20am

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Ballowall wrote:

I donno pixel edit, they say the xl1 is better but the GL1 is plenty cheaper
I don't think he asked about either the GL1 or XL1.

He means he's deciding between the Canon GL2 or Canon XH-G1. My opinion? The GL2 is the best bang-for-your-buck 3CCD camera you can find. And I own one and completely love it. For the price, you simply can't beat it unless you're an HV20 fanboy. smile

But that's another argument and I'm going to assume you want manual controls.

My suggestion would be neither. The alternative would be the Canon XH-A1. It's essentially the same as the XH-G1 minus a few features and is an all-around great camera. Not to mention it's about $2,000 cheaper than the XH-G1. smile My personal next camera and in my opinion the best prosumer HD camera. (That being judged on a mix of resolution, versatility, price, quality, and body. People will swear by the HVX, but P2 cards are another costly story you only want to get into if you're willing to open another can of worms.......and money.)

And besides, I'll swear by both the GL2 and XH-A1. Either way you go, depending on how much money you have, will do you loads of good. With either you really can't go wrong.

On my movie Marathon I used a mix of primarily GL2 footage with some shots on the XH-A1 (Again, a cheaper solution to the XH-G1). If you like the GL2 footage and camera, the A1 is essentially an HD GL3.