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How do I earn money off of my videos?

Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 8:45pm

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Hey there

I was wondering how I would go about making a profit off of my movies. I have spent about $150 gettting ready to shoot my movie, and I am going to spend around $150 more on it. I don't mind spending money on my film but it would be nice to get some back to get a better editor, visionlab, etc.
Anyways any help would be great!

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Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 8:51pm

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I always find this an odd question. If making films is a hobby for you then why would you expect any return on your investment other than money made from the finished article to people who want to buy it. That's true of any hobby; if you spent $300 on Airfix kits, for example, you wouldn't expect to see a penny of that again so how come it's so important to make money back from this?
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 8:58pm

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Rawree wrote:

how come it's so important to make money back from this?
It's not that important. It would just be nice that's all. Like I said I don't mind spending my money on movies because making movies is what I love to do. But I have seen people make money off there films and I wanted to know how that's all.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 9:02pm

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What you could possibly do is rent a cheap space somewhere and show your movie there. Charge $1 admission or something like that. Another thing you could do when doing that is get some other people you know that have made movies and get them to show theirs also.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 9:08pm

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Thanks for the Idea!
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 9:52pm

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Try something like metacafe where they have a producers program - you share in the advertising revenue, which is good if you have a popular film
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:07pm

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Thrawn wrote:

Thanks for the Idea!
No problem. Thats the idea I had for whenever I get some presentable things done. If you end up doing that, let me know how it goes.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:26pm

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Also, you could sell DVD's of your work. There is one problem though. If you use any copyrighted material at all (this includes music, soundFX, footage, etc.) you can't make any money off it or the owners of the copyright can sue you.
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:30pm

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What would be a good price for selling a DVD? And is FindSounds.com copyrighted SoundFX?
Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007, 10:32pm

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I would say making money off a hobby film is probably impossible. (unless you made an event out of it-that really is a good idea!) You can however use it to make a name for yourself (Ryan vs. dorkman is a good example) with a good short film-then when you have a big enough fan base, start selling your films on DVD off your website, or at your functions!

I too have spent hell maby 1000$ on my films by now but its worth it when you consider that the film industry judges you by your film reel and not how much money you've made

If you work at it long enough payday will come.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 1:25am

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Find sites like youtube, but who share advertising revenue. There are a bunch of them.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 2:05am

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The problem with that is they only accept movies up to 6 minutes long. Mine is going to be around 15 minutes long.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 2:40am

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Well you can make other, shorter movies, like myself.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 2:54am

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Many people on YouTube divide their movie into as many different parts as they need to fit their "longer than 6-minute" movie onto YouTube.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 2:58am

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Budgeting your movie should be based on a probable return you'll be getting (from dvd sales..to merchandise such as posters) a lot of the time. If you have some sort of idea as to how much you could get back..it might make it a little easier to know what kind of budget you'll be working with.

It might be a good idea to have some sort of plan for making back the money you have spent on your budget, rather than spending money on a production..then coming back and trying to figure out how you're going to make money off of it. You'll save money this way.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 5:17am

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This is going to be long, but this is a simple way to get your project ready for earning money. It's certainly not for everyone. But if you are on a low budget and can't really rely on distributors, consider this:

If I were you, I'd make a chart of everything you payed for in regard to the movie. That even includes gas, food, equipment, tapes, etc. Take everything into account. I am going to make up some numbers for the sake of getting my point across.

Say you use $1,000 for everything.

I think I good selling point would be a nicely put together DVD. Maybe make a trailer, get the word of mouth thing going on in your community, and then maybe do a screening and charge a couple bucks for tickets. If you offered a DVD with a nice menu, features, box etc., then people might be interested. Another place to market would be the internet (here, Youtube, Myspace, whatever you can come up with.)

Now, you need to calculate what kind of profit you want to make. You obviously want to make back what you spent, and maybe even a bit more.

http://www.discmakers.com/film/products/dvdb101.asp

That site prints DVDs professionally, in many amounts. The price looks high, but hear me out.

You pay $990 for 300 DVDs with boxes, covers, stamped disk (not cheap, blue colored DVD-R), and inserts. Now what you've spent is $1,990.

If you price one DVD package at just $15 (a reasonable DVD price for an indie filmmaker), you will earn $4,200. You just earned $810. If you charged $16, you will earn back everything, and gain $2,210. Those calculations are considering you keep 20 DVDs for yourself, family, those involved, and festivals/contests. So if you sell all 280, you will earn that much.

To get back what you spent on your film, and the DVDs, you will only need to sell 130 copies. If that seems like too much, you might want to reconsider. But even if you come up slightly short, or don't sell all of them, you have professionally printed copies of your film. It's a risk, but with the right mindset and drive, I think anyone could sell at least 130 copies to friends, neighbors, classmates, teachers, people on the internet, etc. Before you do any of this, make some calculations and see if this is even possible. If you have a no-budget project going on, this is certainly a good decision. You need to take things into consideration and predict how many people would buy it.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 5:33am

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Great idea, Serpent. You should be a statistician, really. Although I must say it's always very doubtful an indie filmmaker can sell 300+ DVDs right off the bat, even with press.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 8:05am

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Thrawn wrote:

What would be a good price for selling a DVD? And is FindSounds.com copyrighted SoundFX?
How much material are you going to have on the DVD?
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 11:21am

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Findsounds.com is a crawler (i believe) and gathers the sounds from all different sites. So it's quite impossible to tell if the sound of FindSounds.com are all copyrighted. Make a notepad file containing all the links of the sounds effects that you used. Then try to contact the different sites with the question if you could use their sounds in your movie. If not, then you have to use another sound.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 3:08pm

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Atom wrote:

Great idea, Serpent. You should be a statistician, really. Although I must say it's always very doubtful an indie filmmaker can sell 300+ DVDs right off the bat, even with press.
Thanks, but that kind of stuff bores me. It's just exciting calculating possibilities for my own film. wink

Anyways, we must have done just the right marketing at our school. We released a film last year that spread around the school and got people talking. I didn't offer a DVD due to copyright things, but this year we have over 100 preorders for the film and we aren't even finished. We have really made no marketting efforts or anything, we just put preorders as an option. My budget for this current project is only around $700, and $300 of that is in equipment that we get to keep. I will have to explore other ways to sell our film, but so far we've got our budget prepaid for. We are charging $17 for the film, so we just had to sell 100 to catch up. The most exciting part of this is that we will have these nice DVDs and if we have leftovers, we can sell them slowly over time while we are trying to fund our next project. I might add, this marketting is just local right now. I bet money there are plenty more independent filmmakers with a bit of a more widespread population.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 3:46pm

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Serpent wrote:


We released a film last year that spread around the school and got people talking. I didn't offer a DVD due to copyright things,
what are these copyright things that you mean?
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 3:52pm

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Thanks Serpent for the helpful post. I would like to buy the DVD's but you have to order at least 300. That cost almost $1000. I really don't have that much money. Thanks for the post. +1
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 4:54pm

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Amazon offers a service where you upload your completed film to them, along with the menu(s), disc titling/imaging, type of case, case artwork etc.

You pay a (imo?) reasonable fee for them to store your data, per month or year...

Only when someone orders a copy of your film is the DVD generated, packaged and shipped.

Your film appears on Amazon.com like any other film would be.

I apologize, because I don't really know the details, and I don't have any links; I just read about it a while ago. If you're interested you should definitley check it out!

The one thing I can say is that it does seem like a pratical approach to selling small, independent films. The initial investment is not finacially cripppling, and you don't wind up with 300 copies of your film that you can't get rid of fast enough...
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 5:43pm

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iggy88 wrote:

Amazon offers a service where you upload your completed film to them, along with the menu(s), disc titling/imaging, type of case, case artwork etc.

You pay a (imo?) reasonable fee for them to store your data, per month or year...

Only when someone orders a copy of your film is the DVD generated, packaged and shipped.

Just for info really, cafepress offer a similar service.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 6:47pm

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Ah..

I should have figured that there would be similar services. At any rate, I've put the Amazon service out there. Maybe one has a better deal in certain respects to another in terms of price, quantity, quality, specials, etc...

Cheers for the heads-up, pdrg..!
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 6:52pm

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iggy88 wrote:

Amazon offers a service where you upload your completed film to them, along with the menu(s), disc titling/imaging, type of case, case artwork etc.

You pay a (imo?) reasonable fee for them to store your data, per month or year...

Only when someone orders a copy of your film is the DVD generated, packaged and shipped.

Your film appears on Amazon.com like any other film would be.

I apologize, because I don't really know the details, and I don't have any links; I just read about it a while ago. If you're interested you should definitley check it out!

The one thing I can say is that it does seem like a pratical approach to selling small, independent films. The initial investment is not finacially cripppling, and you don't wind up with 300 copies of your film that you can't get rid of fast enough...
If you could find a link for that, that would be great! Thanks.
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 7:16pm

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Under the condition you don´t use legally protectet music, you can sell youre film. If not it, is illegal. Than you must have full licences on youre programs, if not, you don´t have the right to earn money with the programs. If these conditions are fulfilled, than you can sell youre movie. A pretty good way to sell youre movie is to offer the service of burning the dvds on demand. Somebody is sending you a letter with the costumers adress in it. Also, he sends you the price in bar and the postage. Then, you burn the dvd, and send it back.

Mike
Posted: Sun, 15th Apr 2007, 7:42pm

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iggy88 wrote:

Ah..

I should have figured that there would be similar services. At any rate, I've put the Amazon service out there. Maybe one has a better deal in certain respects to another in terms of price, quantity, quality, specials, etc...

Cheers for the heads-up, pdrg..!
Apologies all, looks like cafepress are only offering audio and data CD's right now - how daft to miss out on the DVD market...