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Turning 30 zombies into 3000 [ANSWER]

Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 5:13am

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Josh3B

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I'm trying to get a shot of zombies encircling a fire station for the movie I'm working on, but I'd like a much more impressive "field of zombies" for the shot.

How can I make a few into many?

jb
Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 5:25am

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As is typically the case with efects, there are several ways to do it. The easiest is probably to lock off the camera, and film your actors in groups which can then be combined using a split-screen technique. Otherwise, you can use a greenscreen for your actors and duplicate them that way. Or, if you have mad 3D skills, you could go that route, but there aren't many with the talent to pull that off convincingly.

This page has some tutorials on split-screening that you may find helpful. They were originally written for Chromanator, but the principles should translate fairly well to CompositeLab. The main video tutorials have a bit on keying, if you want to go the greenscreen route.
Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 5:29am

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Well, I'll definitely look into both things. The split-screening sounds like the easier route.

jb
Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 10:13am

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I think this is what Axeman wrote sort of but i saw this effect in Doctor Who the shakesphere episode.

They had a group of people at least 16-20 stood in crowd formation. Keep in mind they were in the location and were stood on a greenscreen then moved the people and the greenscreen to different locations then composited it all together to make a massive crowd.

So if your scene needs the camera on the roof or up a couple of floors looking at a crowd of zomibies get all your actors to stand on a greenscreen in one place, film something for about a minute don't move the camera and move the greenscreen and crowd and do this for a while OR just film them on a greenscreen and make loads of copies.

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Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 10:53am

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So really, when I do my next big zombie shoot (the 29th), I could post 20-30 zombies in front of a green screen, and keep replicating them to put into the crowd shot?

JB
Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 3:40pm

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Yeh BUT! If you're smart you'll vary the position of your zombies- i don't have any experience in Green screens yet but if i just see rows and rows of the same zombies your editing will become obvious. So i say move your zombie actors around between each time you shoot on the Green screen biggrin

A massive good luck with it by the way! Keep me updated!
Posted: Sat, 19th May 2007, 2:42am

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I had thought of that, actually. Doing about 12-15 shots with the zombies arranged differently in each one, so that I could pick and choose the way the crowd would look.

Thanks for the well-wishes. ALMOST done shooting, after 3 years of cast coups, delays, headaches, heartaches, broken gear, new gear, director changes, cast changes, and other miscellaneous fiascos.

But that's just shooting... ugh.

JB