You are viewing an archive of the old fxhome.com forums. The community has since moved to hitfilm.com.

Resizing? [ANSWER]

Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 3:43pm

Post 1 of 13

mercianfilm

Force: 210 | Joined: 31st Dec 2006 | Posts: 687

Windows User

Member

If i shot a single actor against a blue/green screen, would i be able to resize his height when i composite it on other footage? Im building miniature sets for larger locations as some of you may know and so i need to have various people walking around and interacting- i'd rather have live actors than CGI.

Thanks for any replies!
Posted: Fri, 18th May 2007, 3:50pm

Post 2 of 13

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

If you use CompositeLab or VisionLab resizing and repositioing is easy. Check this out:

http://fxhome.com/support/vidtutes/?t=1&f=%2Bcat%3A1&cat=1
Posted: Sat, 19th May 2007, 11:55am

Post 3 of 13

mercianfilm

Force: 210 | Joined: 31st Dec 2006 | Posts: 687

Windows User

Member

Wow! Thanks Tarn i must of missed that video tutorial...
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 12:30am

Post 4 of 13

FreeZ

Force: 20 | Joined: 26th Apr 2007 | Posts: 82

Windows User MacOS User

Member

Ok, i have a question, can you change an actors hight, but not the canvas size some how? Like a hobbit or something?
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 12:48am

Post 5 of 13

DavidLittlefield

Force: 1905 | Joined: 10th Oct 2006 | Posts: 469

VisionLab User VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

You would have to Isolate the actor, most easily by using a greenscreen. But you could mask around the actor to isolate him (Very tedious). But no, you can't have a shot of two people and then just shrink one of them withought messing everything else up.
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 9:20am

Post 6 of 13

petet2

Force: 2899 | Joined: 27th Dec 2005 | Posts: 1043

VisionLab User VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

To do it without a greenscreen you'd have to film the scene empty of actors (to create a background plate) then film your actors in the scene.

You could then have the empty background plate on one layer and overlay other copies of the clip in which you mask off everything but the actors so that you can resize and overlay the clip. You can have as many copies as you want so you can isolate each actor.

This would take a loooooong time smile Masking off each actor frame by frame would be a lengthy process - you are basically doing by hand the job that Comp Lab does automatically if you film in front of a greenscreen.

I know that Sollthar's tutorials at the No Control Cinema website do use a technique where he paints out the background around his actors in Photoshop to create a matte so he would be able to give you more advice on how long it would take!
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 12:06pm

Post 7 of 13

SGB

Force: 2199 | Joined: 9th Aug 2005 | Posts: 855

VisionLab User VideoWrap User FXpreset Maker MacOS User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

FreeZ wrote:

Ok, i have a question, can you change an actors hight, but not the canvas size some how? Like a hobbit or something?
For LOTR, whenever the hobbits appear to seem smaller, its either a trick of depth of field or they use a greenscreen. The depth of field thing is where the hobbit is actually farther away from the camera than the other actors, so he seems smaller. But aside from that, to achieve this effect you need a greenscreen.
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 2:46pm

Post 8 of 13

FreeZ

Force: 20 | Joined: 26th Apr 2007 | Posts: 82

Windows User MacOS User

Member

So it is possible with composite lab then? Because I'm getting effects lab and composite lab.
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 6:36pm

Post 9 of 13

DavidLittlefield

Force: 1905 | Joined: 10th Oct 2006 | Posts: 469

VisionLab User VideoWrap User Windows User

Gold Member

Yes, CompositeLab is made for Greenscreening (Among other things, like Grading, etc.)
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 7:51pm

Post 10 of 13

FreeZ

Force: 20 | Joined: 26th Apr 2007 | Posts: 82

Windows User MacOS User

Member

ok, thanks a ton biggrin
Posted: Mon, 27th Oct 2008, 7:00am

Post 11 of 13

Josh3B

Force: 400 | Joined: 6th Aug 2006 | Posts: 58

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User

Gold Member

So if I'm understanding this correctly (Using the example for the shot I want to do), I can shoot my actor in front of a green screen from say... 20-30 feet away, and then put that green screen shot into another background to make it look like my actor is roughly 100 feet away from the camera? I can resize my green screen shot into the background itself?

jb
Posted: Mon, 27th Oct 2008, 8:52am

Post 12 of 13

Simon K Jones

Force: 27955 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 11683

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 Pro User MuzzlePlug User PowerPlug User PhotoKey 3 Plug-in User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker Windows User

FXhome Team Member

Yup, any media layer can be resized and repositioned however you'd like.
Posted: Tue, 28th Oct 2008, 4:20am

Post 13 of 13

Josh3B

Force: 400 | Joined: 6th Aug 2006 | Posts: 58

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User

Gold Member

Well, that's great news! It's going to allow me to possibly drop in hundreds of additional zombies to some shots I've done. That's going to make some of those shots *much* more dynamic.

My green screen is about to get quite a workout.

jb