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Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 4:27pm

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Hi
One of the problems us no budget film makers have is locations.
I've been looking around for a full size aeroplane to shoot in, they have plane graveyards in the USA, but i can't find one in the uk.

Anyway I've found out that heathrow hires out a plane for the day for film makers.
Just thinking out loud, i'm sure some of you guys would love to shoot in a plane, if it was organised that many of us would shoot in the plane then the cost could be split and within reach of us no budget film makers.

What do you think?
Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 5:16pm

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Wow excellent idea! I have future projects that could possibly be shot on a plane but well..it's in the future biggrin Great find though!
Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 5:59pm

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Being in the US I'll stick with plane graveyards wink.
Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 6:05pm

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Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 6:10pm

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Out of curiosity, how much is the days rental you've been qouted?

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Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 7:37pm

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I have a scene in my new filming that requires both interior and exterior footage. I reckon i can get the exterior footage from the local airport but shooting inside their may be difficult so this sounds like a really good alternative. The plane i had in mind would be a private jet.

Ofcourse, it's going to cost a bomb and even if we were to split it, it'd still be a lot of money for me to come up with.

The other alternative is to go to aircraft museums and greenscreen things such as windows etc.

AE
Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 8:01pm

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I'll find the price out in the morning.

But this idea also works with other things that cost money, instead of us all trying to make and pay for our own films, all we need to do tell people when we are planning to shoot something and then split the costs.

I'm planning to shoot on an old boat with rigging etc, again i'm sure a few people could do with some shots on a old style boat? my scene will take less than an hour to shoot but i bet they will charge me for the full day, so if everyone splits it they can be on the boat the whole day.

like the time er-no had the army tanks type things, instead of keeping them to himself and if he had to pay or even if he didn't have to pay we would have paid him, so he makes a little profit.

you get the idea, sharing cuts costs.
Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 8:02pm

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try giving these guys a call www.airlinesimulator.co.uk looks like they offer a simulation of the inside of a 747 to filmmakers. Don't know what the costs are like but i'd imagine its cheaper than hiring an actual aircraft.
Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2007, 10:49pm

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I think this sounds a great idea but you'll need to agree some pretty specific rules for the shared day - I don't know about the rest of you but my shooting days tend to drift off schedule pretty easily. If there are four of you sharing the plane for the day I wouldn't want to be the one who drew the last shift or you might find you're getting bumped wink
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 10:40am

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I'm not sure if they still do it but my local airport (EMA- about 10 miles from me) used to have an old plane that they used to allow school day trips to- showing them around the cabin and stuff like that- i could try and find something out for if you like?
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 11:20am

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yeah, as scribble said, they do still have that plane at EMA, i'm sure you could use that one for a fairly cheap amount of money. i cant remember what the place is called, but i think its located at a place called castle donnington?

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Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 11:28am

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Around that area yes biggrin I've sent an email for you anyway- i'd like to found out myself too! So just awaiting the reply
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 12:41pm

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well done guys, maybe there could be a sticky on the forum for locations such as these?
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 4:31pm

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If you're in Hampshire (or near there), you could always try looking for locations on Film Hampshire

They've got stacks of locations and they can help lias with the location's owners to organise things.

AE
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 8:35pm

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Are there any plane graveyards near North Carolina? I need to shoot a scene in an old b-57. Btw, lately I've been hanging out at the set of the new George Clooney movie "Leatherheads". I have a cousin that is on the crew. It's been pretty cool seeing what the real sets are like.
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 10:16pm

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You live in NC, Goldwing. Cool, so do I. As far as I know there aren't any plane graveyards here; people usually put them in the deserts to preserve them. Also, they won't just let you walk into a plane graveyard. Oh, and I totally support the sticky on locations. smile
Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2007, 11:05pm

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Merrick World wrote:

You live in NC, Goldwing. Cool, so do I.
Me to, I saw some set footage from the leather heads set on the local news station.
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 1:24am

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I'm currently developing a WW2 short. If any of you are around the Winston-Salem, NC area and would like to help...I could definitely use it. I'll probably be getting some help from the NCSA (School of the Arts).
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 12:31pm

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Some local guys I know made a movie called "Horrors of War"
http://www.horrorsofwarmovie.com/

And they did a pretty good job with it- It has it's shortfalls, but considering they made a feature length WWII film in the middle of Ohio and got it sold and distributed (check out the artwork on that Japanese box! Wow- it doesn't really match the movie though- great sales technique ha!) Anyway- I digress-
They had some plane scenes, and they used a 3D artist to make the plane in a 3D program for the external shots and they made an "interior" of the plane out of cardboard and wood etc... and just shot it very darkly- it worked fine.

IMO don't be afraid to try and mock something up, it will probably be easier than shooting inside the cramped quarters of an actual plane!

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Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 1:26pm

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Goldwing Productions wrote:

NCSA (School of the Arts).
Thats were I'm planning to go to filmschool, There a really good school from what I here. Thats cool that the'll help. I know that one guy there made a ww2 movie I think theres a review and stuff on their site.
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 7:16pm

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Dude wow! How many filmmakers are in NC?! I thought I was one of the only ones. Must just be the county I live in - Rowan. Not the most interesting place in the world. smile Well, It's good to know that I have local people to help me whenever I need it. smile
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 11:17pm

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Actually a little fact for you all. Besides California, North Carolina has the most percentage of film "activity" than any other. You wouldn't believe how many films are made here that we don't even know about.

As far as planes for external shots, I will probably do a mix of models and CG.
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 2:29pm

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I use to live in goldsboro NC. Just out side of semore johnson airforce base. Im an airforce brat wink .
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 3:11pm

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Just to hop back on-topic for a second, without question I would use the simulator place as opposed to a real plane for several reasons...

1) Price, it's doubtless cheaper as it hasn't got wings, cockpits, functionality, scheduled flights, and other expensive things to worry about

2) It's designed for filming etc in - so there will probably be green room type areas, electricity for lights, batteries, monitors, etc

3) It's at ground level! 747's are really tall, so you need special access, which will doubtless cost extra. If you need to screen the windows, they're many many metres from the floor!

4) You won't need a team of security guards chasing you around

5) You need a lot of extras to fill a 747, so you're unlikely to shoot too many whole-length shots of the interior anyway wink

Whoever found that place, good find, even if everything else was equal I'd still talk to them first just to make my life easier. I really would.
Posted: Sat, 26th May 2007, 2:08pm

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what is the simulator place?
Posted: Sat, 26th May 2007, 5:33pm

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Goldwing Productions wrote:

what is the simulator place?
http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=280627#280627
Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 11:51am

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I finally got a reply of EMA! They told me to send an email to Thomson Cabin Crew Training and ask there about it. I'm a bit busy at the moment so if anyone else is interested either search google for an email adress or visit EMA website and look.
Sorry that's all the help i could get!