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King Patrick

Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 10:04am

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This is a short-film comedy about a young boy named "King" Patrick who struggles with a bully.

I did the effects, some filming, minor editing and played the character George.


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Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 10:40am

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Everything you've submitted to the cinema thus far has been pathetic and terrible and should never have seen the light of day.

I would have assumed, therefore, that this film would have been no different however - i'm detecting the basis of some quite decent humor and timing and I was quite willing to stick through this right to the end. I suspect much of the humor came from the natural relationship between the actors, but it was still amusing none the less.

The problem as I see it (there are many, but they all boil down to this one thing) is that without sounding too abrupt - you need grow up, take it all a bit more seriously and make some mature decisions during your production.

Mature decisions about whether or not something is worth showing, about whether take 4 or take 7 was the best, about whether a scene works, about whether you should try to act properly rather than cock about in front of a camera and use it as your excuse for not trying, about whether - with a tiny bit of money, you could have at least pulled together some props and costumes and probably most of all: about sitting down and doing some hard study of the techniques etc.

Without doing one/more of the above, your work will never amount to more than a childish romp in the back yard, which would be a shame since you've proved with this film that you might actually have some talent.
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 11:17am

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Xcession wrote:

Everything you've submitted to the cinema thus far has been pathetic and terrible and should never have seen the light of day.
This is the first thing I've personally submitted to the cinema, other than that Darth Penguin's submitted one other one. And there are PLENTY of other movies in the cinema than probly should’ve never seen the light of day.



Xcession wrote:

The problem as I see it (there are many, but they all boil down to this one thing) is that without sounding too abrupt - you need grow up, take it all a bit more seriously and make some mature decisions during your production.

Mature decisions about whether or not something is worth showing, about whether take 4 or take 7 was the best, about whether a scene works, about whether you should try to act properly rather than cock about in front of a camera and use it as your excuse for not trying, about whether - with a tiny bit of money, you could have at least pulled together some props and costumes and probably most of all: about sitting down and doing some hard study of the techniques etc.
Without doing one/more of the above, your work will never amount to more than a childish romp in the back yard, which would be a shame since you've proved with this film that you might actually have some talent.
King Patrick was filmed spontaneously without a script and with a digital camera made for taking pictures, We weren't considering this a serious attempt at making a film, so considering these conditions we were happy with the way it turned out.
As for movies that we're serious about, again I must mention Night of the Hobo and Cobra 12, both should come out at least five times better than this. They should also be coming out very soon. Just promise me that you will give them a chance regardless of what you've seen in our previous movies.

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Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 11:28am

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Spontaneity is great, provided that you don't use it as an excuse. Just to preempt a common situation on FXhome: be aware that now you've used your "Spontaneity Card" on this community, you can't use it again.

Regarding giving stuff a chance - like I said in my previous post, I expected King Patrick to be bad, but discovered it was actually rather amusing: so yeah, i'll certainly give your next stuff a chance.
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 4:26pm

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If you didn't think it was going to be good anyways, then why post it?
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 6:40pm

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I didn't think it was going to good before it was done. It turned out ok so I posted it.
Posted: Thu, 24th May 2007, 8:35pm

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Which state do you reside Jabooza? If you're in Oregon maybe we could hook up and pump out some nice shorts.
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 2:16am

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Sorry, I live on the opposite side of the country. In Maine.
Posted: Fri, 25th May 2007, 3:29am

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What's so popular about the East Coast and Filmmakers? I think the only other person (I know) who lives on the West Coast is 'DancamFX'
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 3:22pm

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I can't say many bad things about this (simply because my movie was terrible), but I thought that the effects were timed right and looked good.

However, I must say that you should've cut some of the scenes much shorter. I kind of lost interest.

Everyone was a kind of good actor ( but that doesn't really matter) but I had to turn my speakers down when I heard "King Goerge's" whining. It woke my mom up from her nap. Lol.

Long story short is that the effects were good except everything else was o.k. or bad. Sorry.
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 7:49pm

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I have a question, were it says your gross was $1,300 does that mean you actually made that much money??? And were did you get it? From fxhome users??
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 7:52pm

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FreeZ wrote:

I have a question, were it says your gross was $1,300 does that mean you actually made that much money??? And were did you get it? From fxhome users??
Heh, I wish. smile No, the "$" symbol symbolises a virtual amount of FXhome credits (not real money) where each download equals 10 FXhome credits.

Videoace123 wrote:

I can't say many bad things about this (simply because my movie was terrible), but I thought that the effects were timed right and looked good.

However, I must say that you should've cut some of the scenes much shorter. I kind of lost interest.

Everyone was a kind of good actor ( but that doesn't really matter) but I had to turn my speakers down when I heard "King Goerge's" whining. It woke my mom up from her nap. Lol.

Long story short is that the effects were good except everything else was o.k. or bad. Sorry.
Your review is actually pretty spot-on but your 0 star rating doesn't exactly match it.

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Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 8:04pm

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Didn't much care for this.

You've got a good sense of comedic timing and storytelling, but these skills are completely abashed by the exceedingly low technicals. The camerawork feels very "moving back and forth to keep up with the action"; most notably in the later scenes where the two guys have baseball bats.

The funniest bits were in the beginning, IMO, and that made me not care at all for the whole second half: I felt like skipping through it.

Better editing and camerawork would genuinely benefit your productions, my friend, as it's obvious you've got quite a few good ideas going.

Altogether, this is about a 3/5 for me, but bad technicals and a drawn out second half pull it down to a 1/5. Better luck next time, bud.
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 8:15pm

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Well, then , what can you do with fxhome credits?
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 8:18pm

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ben3308 wrote:

The camerawork feels very "moving back and forth to keep up with the action"; most notably in the later scenes where the two guys have baseball bats.
Well, that's because that part was filmed by an 11 year old (the same kid who played King Patrick actually). smile

ben3308 wrote:

Better editing and camerawork would genuinely benefit your productions, my friend, as it's obvious you've got quite a few good ideas going.
I think you'll enjoy Night of the Hobo then. It should be up in a few days.

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Well, then , what can you do with fxhome credits?
Nothing. smile
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 8:24pm

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Then what's really the point of them....?
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 9:41pm

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I guess they just show how popular the video is.
Posted: Wed, 30th May 2007, 10:23pm

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Like Jabooza said, just a bit of fun otherwise it would be no point posting them in the cinema would there?
They are basically the number of downloads x10 [think it's times 10]
Posted: Thu, 31st May 2007, 11:55am

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I wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

Better editing and camerawork would genuinely benefit your productions, my friend, as it's obvious you've got quite a few good ideas going.
I think you'll enjoy Night of the Hobo then. It should be up in a few days.
It's just been submited into the cinema, it'll be up as soon as it gets reviewed.
Posted: Thu, 7th Jun 2007, 10:37pm

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Not my favorite Hans Polcheck outing thus far, but I still hate to miss one. Yes, the audio was a bit borderline in spots, but didn't ruin it for me. As usual, I think you camera work is most always very cool and keeps your films visually interesting and compelling.

The acting in this one, I'm sad to say, didn't really live up to some of the previous work. And the voiceover narration was the bit that got to me the most, I think. I mean, that's not even dependent on your shooting schedule/time, as you can go back later and do it as much as you want. That one sounded like you just kind of rushed through it to finish the narration in one go, and parts of it might not even have had a written script.

I kept expecting to see some actual cockroaches. ;-p

Still, entertaining and the pillow fight scene gets it an exta point right off the bat. he he.
Posted: Fri, 8th Jun 2007, 1:51am

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Jazzmanian wrote:

Not my favorite Hans Polcheck outing thus far, but I still hate to miss one. Yes, the audio was a bit borderline in spots, but didn't ruin it for me. As usual, I think you camera work is most always very cool and keeps your films visually interesting and compelling.

The acting in this one, I'm sad to say, didn't really live up to some of the previous work. And the voiceover narration was the bit that got to me the most, I think. I mean, that's not even dependent on your shooting schedule/time, as you can go back later and do it as much as you want. That one sounded like you just kind of rushed through it to finish the narration in one go, and parts of it might not even have had a written script.

I kept expecting to see some actual cockroaches. ;-p

Still, entertaining and the pillow fight scene gets it an exta point right off the bat. he he.
Erm, I think you posted this under wrong movie topic. smile
Posted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007, 1:16pm

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Well that sure ws a little bit ahh weird?
King Patrick is a little pussy.. Haha
Pretty funny... If i could, i'd rate it a 2/5.
Posted: Mon, 15th Oct 2007, 5:10pm

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Videoace123 wrote:

Everyone was a kind of good actor ( but that doesn't really matter)
I really don't see how anyone, especially someone who is interested in filmmaking can say that.

Videoace123 wrote:

Long story short is that the effects were good except everything else was o.k. or bad. Sorry.
Erm, that sorta contradicted the rest of your post.

szczepanski wrote:

Pretty funny... If i could, i'd rate it a 2/5.
Heh, that's high than I rated it. smile