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Night of the Hobo

Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 9:43am

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An action-comedy in which a gangster and a crime boss rob a house for valuables, unaware of who might be living there...

This is the sequel to the original Day of the Hobo from Penguin Pictures.


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Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 12:05pm

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Make sure to watch after the credits.
Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 5:51pm

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I gotta say, I was dissappointed by this immensely.

Not because it wasn't good, it was, but because it started off so strong in the technicals and storytelling (5 material) and then went downhill. If anything, it's often smarter to reverse this, having the strongest part of the movie at the climax or conclusion so that the audience is left wowed. Another BIG issue is that most, if not all of your dialogue is extrenely obviously dubbed over. I found myself wondering if it was supposed to be dialogue or voice over. In the whole scope of things, this technically isn't the HUGEST problem, but it is definitely something that needs to be fixed.

The next item of business is the actors. The hobo and the narrator were perfect, but the "mob boss" was pretty bad. No offense to the guy who played him, especially if it was one of you guys, but you might seriously want to consider shaving the half-stache, it just screams pretentious weirdo. Again, not to disparage the person themselves, but I think as far as a relatively serious character goes, a half-stache just completely does not fit. At all. Ever.

If you "wow" people at the beginning and then don't deliver (at least not with as much style) for the rest of the film, they're not going to think that much of the movie as a whole.

That's why, in Cover's Story, it starts with a bang and ends with an even greater one: the realization that the beginning of the movie is actually the end, and vice versa. And in Redemption, it starts slow and rapidly gathers speed into a huge conclusion. As far as storytelling goes these are just better ways to construct your movie. Think more in terms of how the audience will view it and how well it holds their attention, is what I'm saying.

Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is this: Night of the Hobo shows me GREAT improvement if your ability to produce a movie, but as far as keeping me entertained and interested for the whole movie and up until the end, Day of the Hobo was far superior. This tries to be cooler than it is; and rather than being funny because of that it's just.....well, lame at times.

Again, not trying to badmouth an otherwise stellar production, but I found that this had none of the charm or slapstick comedy of the original. Rather, I just felt like you guys tried a little too hard.

Sorry, guys, I know you wanted to debut big with this one, and it IS really good, it's just missing a few things for me to vote it on the higher end. Right now I'm at a 3, leaning towards a possible 4. I'm going to wait a bit before passing complete judgment.

Regards, Ben
Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 7:49pm

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ben3308 wrote:

Another BIG issue is that most, if not all of your dialogue is extrenely obviously dubbed over. I found myself wondering if it was supposed to be dialogue or voice over. In the whole scope of things, this technically isn't the HUGEST problem, but it is definitely something that needs to be fixed.
Yeah, we wanted to get rid of the camera buzzing in the background, so we decided to try dubbing all the sounds, and I think it came out fairly well for our first attempt (not that I'm trying to make excuses)

ben3308 wrote:

The next item of business is the actors. The hobo and the narrator were perfect, but the "mob boss" was pretty bad. No offense to the guy who played him, especially if it was one of you guys, but you might seriously want to consider shaving the half-stache, it just screams pretentious weirdo. Again, not to disparage the person themselves, but I think as far as a relatively serious character goes, a half-stache just completely does not fit. At all. Ever.
The mob boss was Jabooza.

ben3308 wrote:

If you "wow" people at the beginning and then don't deliver (at least not with as much style) for the rest of the film, they're not going to think that much of the movie as a whole.
Yeah, looking back at it the plot wasn't as good as we thought it was going to be. I'm pretty happy with it overall though. Hopefully, in Revenge of the Hobo, we'll be able to combine the good elements from both of them.


And after that, no more hobo movies. We promise biggrin
Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 7:57pm

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Darth Penguin wrote:

Hopefully, in Revenge of the Hobo, we'll be able to combine the good elements from both of them.


And after that, no more hobo movies. We promise biggrin
I think it's gonna be called Return of the Hobo...or something like that anyway, it's gonna be the "Hobo Trilogy." smile
Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 10:17pm

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It was good but I liked Day of the Hobo better. The dubbed voices really took alot away from the film. In the future You should avoid doing that at all times unless you are forced to. It was still good though. The Hobo Charcter is definantly the best part of your soon to be trilogy.
Posted: Mon, 4th Jun 2007, 10:31pm

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Give this last one a more thought out plot, and i'll be more interested. The first movie was ok, acting wasn't that good, and in this one the acting was worse, the mob boss sounded the same all the way through. The first one had better video quality than this one... next time you sould do a day for night effect instead of actual night.
Posted: Tue, 5th Jun 2007, 3:06pm

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SilverDragon7 wrote:

next time you sould do a day for night effect instead of actual night.
I don't think the next one will have any night scenes. For this one we used real night time because it gives the most realistic effect, you're not supossed to be able to see everything clearly in all lighting situations.

Dancamfx wrote:

The dubbed voices really took alot away from the film. In the future You should avoid doing that at all times unless you are forced to.
In future movies we're gonna have a seperate camera mic. so that won't be a problem anymore.
Posted: Tue, 5th Jun 2007, 3:38pm

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SilverDragon7 wrote:

Give this last one a more thought out plot, and i'll be more interested.
Yeah, we're gonna spend a lot more time writing the script this time (the one for this movie was writen in a couple hours smile ). We haven't started yet but we've got a lot of ideas so far.
Posted: Tue, 5th Jun 2007, 5:13pm

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I think I want to remake a mix of THIS and Day of the Hobo instead. Think "Dawn of the Hobo". Yes!

Oh, and on another note, I've gone with a 3 on this one because of how I feel about the middle and end of it, I'm just not the hugest fan. It was at a 3.5, but I had to round down because of the technical quirks here and there, sorry.

One thing I do love about what I've seen from you guys so far is that you care about production design. It's obvious you take at least some amount of time to costume your actors, rather than just have them wear bright blue jeans and a white t-shirt. Most everyone tends to look past this, and it makes a HUGE deal in the final cut.

In Redemption, it took us nearly an hour to find clothes that looked good enough to suit our characters, what with the crackhead needing a bunch of coats (hot/cold flashes form cocaine dependency) and the interrogator needing a "frazzled businessman" look; so I can completely respect the fact you guys went with the sunglasses/gritty film look/trenchcoats/grained out darkness look, I know that took time.

But don't worry, I KNOW you guys have something up your sleeves and you're just waiting to show it to us. I just KNOW you're gonna do something big.
Posted: Tue, 5th Jun 2007, 6:01pm

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I wasn't sure if it was meant to be like a B-Grade Kung Fu movie or not (in regards to the dubbing) razz

Still, I liked it. But there is room for improvement. I'll wait for the final installment....

For now, 3.

Jabooza Clog Booza wrote:

...it's gonna be the "Hobo Trilogy." smile
A Hobology?
Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2007, 12:27am

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ben3308 wrote:

But don't worry, I KNOW you guys have something up your sleeves and you're just waiting to show it to us. I just KNOW you're gonna do something big.
Wow, I hope your right.

Digerati Media wrote:

Jabooza Clog Booza wrote:

...it's gonna be the "Hobo Trilogy." smile
A Hobology?
Heh yeah, maybe we could call it that. smile
Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2007, 2:21am

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I enjoyed the first installment and this one also entertained. I think the filmmaking skills shown continue to demonstrate improvement. I like the feel of the film and some of the comedy was still good.

It really needed some work on the script, however. A bit too simple. I finished watching it feeling like you really expended a lot of effort on your filmmaking, but let that wipe out your concerns over the script and the acting. They fell a bit short for me.

Still, a good showing and it gave me a few smiles throughout. A 3 out of 5. If you make more in this series, I'd definitely watch.
Posted: Wed, 6th Jun 2007, 12:27pm

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yeah, hopefully we'll be able to improve just as much with Return of the Hobo as we did with this one while not creating new problems. smile
Posted: Sat, 16th Jun 2007, 9:04pm

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You did a way better job in the first one. It was way to dark and I barely could see what they were doing.( i know it was suppose to be night but still) I was not funny. The hobo got on my nerves for the way he spoke. If I were you, I'd drop the term " Magical Hobo" There's nothing magical about it. The first one was more fun. This one was just long and not that fun. and i hate the hole Idea of them stealing from the Hobo. It was a good movie, just not well planned.
Posted: Thu, 5th Jul 2007, 12:50pm

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The darkness in the movie is an issue if you're watching it in a light room. We always had our computers in good lighting conditions for it so we never noticed. I guess If you wanna see what's happening it's best to watch it without the sun shining on your screen.