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The Zombie Survival Guide

Posted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007, 9:17am

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After watching horrific events unfold on the news, five friends decide it's time to prepare for the worst. In this case, the "worst" is the undead. With no prior fighting experience or survival knowledge, where do five average joes learn what they need to do in order to survive?

The Zombie Survival Guide.

This is the final cut of "The Zombie Survival Guide." Inspired by the book written by Max Brooks, this concept trailer/short film was originally entered in the FXhome fanfilm competition in 2006. We've always considered that version "incomplete" due to the restrictions of time and music, but now it's finally finished. Hopefully, you'll find it as entertaining as it is informative. And remember: They feel no fear. Why should you?


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Posted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007, 5:22pm

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Oh wow. I'm going to give this a 5/5 for entertainment factor. I don't like the way the beginning was layed out like a trailer. I love the Zombie Survival Guide book and this was a great compliment to it. It was pretty well shot, great costumes, props, makeup, and pretty damn good acting. Very fun, and cool timer/music. You should be proud of this. I lol'd at some of the parts, the humor scattered throughout was well placed. Visually it was pretty cool too. You pulled of the night stuff very well. Night stuff is the hardest to expose and light without getting something that's too grainy or too dark. My only criticism besides the beginning layout was the compression. The text was hard to read and the aspect ratio was 640 X 480 with widescreen bars. If you are going to letterbox, I'd choose 720 X 480. The video just looks strangely tall IMO. The graphic design you used in the cinema was great as well. ^5 I wanted more. I think you guys could very well turn this into a feature/longer film. You'd just have to think of interesting things to happen and better locations. Also, I think the action scenes were a little slow. Not enough cuts. The zombies could have been a little more threatening.
Posted: Mon, 9th Jul 2007, 5:43pm

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I was left with mixed feelings after viewing this one. I liked the camerawork and the muzzle flashes were effective. The problem was that I was left feeling a bit confused. I wasn't quite sure what I had just seen.

The weapon selection scene seemed totally out of joint to me considering the overall tone of the project. It seemed like that scene was lifted from an entirely different movie altogether. And that scene immediately followed the beginning of a countdown which led me to expect a scene that would start turning up the heat. There were some elements that I felt weren't explained. Why did the countdown start at 8:32:45? Who was Steve and how did he get to the military perimeter?

I know this was really more of a concept film, but it was bookended to look like a trailer. The ending was very well done, but it left me feeling like it should have come 8-9 minutes earlier. For the length of the project, I think I should have gotten more out of it. I couldn't tell by your description, but is this the finished product or just the finished trailer?

The things that worked really worked well. Keep at it.
Posted: Tue, 10th Jul 2007, 1:04am

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Thanks for the honest comments. I'll try to answer a few questions to help clarify what the heck this thing is supposed to be.

Yes, this is the final version. This is not an actual trailer for a longer film, although we have an entire plot already created for one. The main reason why is because this film was shot in about three days in order to meet the deadline for the fanfilm competition. We decided to frame it to play more like an extended trailer rather than just a bunch of random scenes with no logical way of tying them together.

The countdown was introduced early on to hint that something big and inevitable was going to happen. We felt that after "Steve" reveals it to be a nuclear explosion, the audience would feel a greater sense of urgency knowing that it's been on its way the whole time.

The "Steve" character originally had a much bigger part. He is an additional friend of the main characters, and had a whole subplot of his own on how he escaped to the military perimeter surrounding the city. We had to cut it out because of time constraints and we didn't want to confuse the audience on who the main characters were or who they should really be rooting for.

The zombies were not really threatening because we never really get a good look at them. This was an intentional attempt to hide the fact we used the same 4-5 actors over and over again. Also, most of our "zombies" happened to be under the age of 17, so they aren't very threatening to begin with.

We are still trying to find a way to compress the film properly. Hopefully, we'll get a higher quality version up soon.

Thanks again for your comments/suggestions. Keep 'em coming.
Posted: Tue, 10th Jul 2007, 5:08am

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Wow... I've read the book, and the book is great. I've watched this trailer, and the trailer is great. The first few scenes were done perfectly, as was the scene with the zombies approaching the house during the friend's call.

5/5 from me, because you really captured the essence of a zombie outbreak in this simple concept trailer. It would be great to see a full film, but for now, this will suffice.
Posted: Tue, 10th Jul 2007, 6:00pm

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Shouldn't it say somewhere in the guide to kill the team member that is experiencing violent and aggressive mood swings? I mean really!

I think this movie is probably the most likely to succeed and has the beast title.

Very funny.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007, 2:58pm

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I wanna see this in a higher resolution. Had trouble reading the text between each scene. Though I had a little laugh with the "choose-a-gun" part, the explodin nuke kinda ruined the end of this movie.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007, 6:35pm

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I'm going to post a higher resolution sometime today.

*EDIT*: Just submitted the higher resolution file. Expect it very soon.

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Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007, 7:33pm

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The resolution is fine I think, it was just poorly encoded.

I think this was meant to be a trailer from what I read, but it didn't feel at all like a trailer until the end.

I like the concept. Acting was halfway decent. Kudos on the props. Costumes however were null.

Overall, I found it very enjoyable. I would love to see a full fledged film. Very cool Seven!

Seven: Just saw your Batman avatar. I like you even more now.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007, 8:35pm

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I have to say I enjoyed this somewhat. I'm mulling over a similar concept at the moment myself and it's nice to see another artistic take on the same sort of thing, although mine won't be based on the book as I haven't read it(would like to though).

It was certainly better than the simon pegg/ nick frost effort which I found suprisingly crap.

The only things I thought which let it down is it was too short and the nuke at the end.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jul 2007, 10:01pm

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Pretty entertaining movie... short, sweet, and to the point, i like that... I'm actually in production for a zombie/comedy film entitled "Milk"... it's good to see others who are interested in the zombie genre... keep it up! and stay tuned for "Milk"!
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 3:39am

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Haven't yet watched it, but sexy sexy sexy poster.
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 5:20pm

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Hell yeah!! - Great. Make more sense now... Thanks for the high-res version!
Posted: Thu, 12th Jul 2007, 6:51pm

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This is an outstanding action movie cleverly put together to avoid unnecessary footage to link progress.
Your props ...well what can I say.....a terrorists wet dream.....bloody
great.
Well done

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Posted: Fri, 13th Jul 2007, 4:02pm

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THIS REALLY BLEW ME AWAY I LOVED THE STYLE! smile , at 07:49 a very familiar song starts playing, could you possibly reply with the name of it please?
Posted: Fri, 13th Jul 2007, 6:10pm

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I thought that this was really good. But I really couldn't help but think that this was just a long trailer after I watched it. I really hope that you make this into a full film (I'm not saying that would be easy!) because this was truly awesome!

I gave it 3/5 stars.
Posted: Fri, 13th Jul 2007, 9:48pm

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yan wrote:

...at 07:49 a very familiar song starts playing, could you possibly reply with the name of it please?
The name of the song is "Gothic Power" by X-Ray Dog. Glad you enjoyed it.
Posted: Sat, 14th Jul 2007, 3:04pm

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Very nicely done. Nice bits of humor and action. It seemed like a couple of gunshot sound effects were muffled or missing, but overall this is one of the better zombie flicks here in FXHome.
Posted: Mon, 16th Jul 2007, 3:04am

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The humor was good and the cinematics where nicely done. The biggest complaint i have is about the text. Way to much for a short. Maybe you could have focused on small bits of text from each chapter (kinda like the special edition of donnie darko) Or given us bigger text and a lot longer to read it.

The visual effects where nice and believable but the sound effects for the pistol sounded like a cheap fire cracker sad I especially like the shotgun flash, it looked B.A.

I like your grading it added a lot to the film, also the explosion surprisingly looked believable for just being a grading change.

I give you a 3/5
Posted: Mon, 16th Jul 2007, 7:12am

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Zephlon wrote:

The visual effects where nice and believable but the sound effects for the pistol sounded like a cheap fire cracker sad I especially like the shotgun flash, it looked B.A.
Actually, we recorded the sound effects for those handguns at a local shooting range. We even matched the sounds to the specific caliber guns that we used as props. Ever notice when an eyewitness on the news is describing gunfire from a shootout? They often say they didn't know it was gunfire at first because it "sounded like fireworks." So I'll take your comment as a compliment. Glad you liked the muzzle flashes too. We also referred to photographs of actual muzzle flashes in order to try and get them to look just right.
Posted: Mon, 16th Jul 2007, 11:34pm

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I loved this trailer but it was way to long and you showed us way too much. Alot of people complain these days that movie trailers give away the whole story or show all the funniest parts in the money and this is a good example. You did a fantastic job but try to keep the trailer to a maximum of 3 minutes. And just some advice, I would remove the part from 5:11 to 7-39 from the trailer because it gives too much away. Also dont show the nuke explosion at the end for the same reason. Other than the length of the trailer it was great. 5/5
Posted: Tue, 17th Jul 2007, 8:19am

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"funny" and a grate for a storyboard
to do dam good zombie flick it takes a lot of preping and
way to much work and money , latex, blood work, to pull it off
best of luck to you
Posted: Tue, 17th Jul 2007, 8:24pm

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i thought this video was excellent i give it 2 thumbs up
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 4:10am

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davlin wrote:

This is an outstanding action movie cleverly put together to avoid unnecessary footage to link progress.
Your props ...well what can I say.....a terrorists wet dream.....bloody
great.
Well done
Wow, davlin. You really seemed to like the movie when it came out five days ago. What happened to your policy of not rating other movies currently in the top 10? You made it perfectly clear in the thread for The Fraternal War. In that thread, you said:

davlin wrote:

This was a great story and well done by you all......yeah there are
some failings but under the circumstances very well done.
I wont put a vote on this because I also have a movie in the top 10
and I don't think it's right to vote on each others film while they are in the top 10 list.


I would have awarded 3stars.
Strange. I remember you saying you would also have given us a higher rating than a two. Yet it looks like your original post in our thread was edited yesterday around the same time you gave us that two star rating. Seeing as how you didn't vote on The Fraternal War (which is still in the top ten, but it has since fallen below your film.), we were just wondering why you decided to make an exception with us to break your own rules? Also, does giving your own movie a five star rating also fall into that rule? Or does that policy only apply to films made by other people? Just curious.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 4:17am

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i thought this movie was awful. for one they need to be sued for using the zombie survival guide and making a mockery out of it. two, all of their speacial effects sucked...their guns looked like $10 childrens toys and their zombies looked like shit along with their gore effects. I know its hard to work with a low budget but zombies dont take a lot to look good. three, their actors where horrible and a lot of the dialoug and humor refrences brought down the movie even more. last, the storyline was stupid and over-dramatic, i mean actually needing the book so bad, then going to a friends house where he has a wide verioty of assult weapons on hand, and then having the army blow up the town with a nuke, which if they even read the book said would be the worse thing to do because it would only cause radioactive zombies...sorry guys, read up on your material a little bit before you actually think you can make a movie about it.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 4:37am

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FXhomer20174 wrote:

i thought this movie was awful. for one they need to be sued for using the zombie survival guide and making a mockery out of it. two, all of their speacial effects sucked...their guns looked like $10 childrens toys and their zombies looked like poo along with their gore effects. I know its hard to work with a low budget but zombies dont take a lot to look good. three, their actors where horrible and a lot of the dialoug and humor refrences brought down the movie even more. last, the storyline was stupid and over-dramatic, i mean actually needing the book so bad, then going to a friends house where he has a wide verioty of assult weapons on hand, and then having the army blow up the town with a nuke, which if they even read the book said would be the worse thing to do because it would only cause radioactive zombies...sorry guys, read up on your material a little bit before you actually think you can make a movie about it.
Wow... what can I say about you, Fxhomer20174? Well, first I'll say to take the time to get a name. Next, I'll say that you obviously haven't been here long enough to realize how hard it is to work on a low budget.

Also, if you've read the book properly, it said that if you go total genocide on a city, you would kill everything in its wake, along with any human survivors-- none of these "radioactive" zombies that you speak of.

AND, I have no idea where you get at saying "making a mockery out of the book". This had everything to do with the book. Plus, they wouldn't be sued because this was a non-profit film.

The props can't look like super-quality replicas of the real thing, nor can the zombies look super-quality either. I would very much like to see you contribute a zombie-based movie, and see how you can do it.

Granted, your critisizm is appreciated, but I'm going to step up and say that you are basing your critisizm on things that you do not even understand...
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 5:36am

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kingofbladeslv wrote:

Granted, your critisizm is appreciated, but I'm going to step up and say that you are basing your critisizm on things that you do not even understand...
I'll take that one step further and point out that this "reviewer" has yet to vote on any other film. Of course constructive criticism is always appreciated, but it seems as if this particular account was created purely to troll and downvote. I wonder if this "user" has the same IP address as some of the other downvoters here.

Tarn wrote:

• Please respect other people's work. Some filmmakers here have been working for decades, while others are only just starting out. Consequently, there will be a wide range of movies in the Cinema, of varying quality. Bear this in mind when commenting and rating.

• When commenting on a submitted movie, try to offer constructive criticism. Unwarranted or unjustified negativity and insulting responses are not welcome.
Perhaps I should discuss this with Tarn or the other admins?

In the meantime, please ignore further posts like that one. Someone is clearly trying to start a flame war. The best thing to do right now is just ignore them.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 8:35am

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Seven wrote:

I'll take that one step further and point out that this "reviewer" has yet to vote on any other film…it seems as if this particular account was created purely to troll and downvote. I wonder if this "user" has the same IP address as some of the other downvoters here.
This seems unlikely, as the account in question happens to have the most expensive product offered by FXhome registered to it. Although I wouldn't categorically deny this as a possibility, and couldn't possibly predict how FXhomer20174 intends to post in the future, at this time, it is rather unlikely that the account was created solely for this purpose.

Having only made one post thus far is not out of the ordinary, being that FXhomer20174 has only been a registered member for roughly one week; any assumptions regarding posting habits/intentions are premature at this point in time. For the moment, it is merely another individual’s perspective of your work.

Granted, the post does not offer much in the way of constructive criticism, and is definitely rough around the edges. With out a doubt, more care could have certainly been put into the post in question, however let's try to keep a cool head. If it is of any comfort, there are no signs that any other user has posted from the same computer as FXhomer20174.

Take care.
Wizard.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 10:14am

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Seven

You are absolutely correct and I'm sorry that I used your movie too to show that there are members on this site who are deliberately down voting films.
I brought this up on the chat room but nothing could be done .
So in my wisdom (or lack of it)I decided to make an issue and show the absolute stupidity of the system where members can use "sleepers " to adjust the top ten as they feel fit.
My experience of this is self evident if you look at the votes on my movie i even got a zero and because of this type of voting I was removed rapidly from a high position.
Also if a movie moves into the top ten with only 1 vote of 5stars ,in theory, that would stay on number one as long as no one else votes on it to bring down average score.
I don't know why it has taken so long for you to kick up about the
voting but at least it's now on the agenda and perhaps we can get it sorted.
I've had a post up about this for days and nobody has bothered to
reply so you can see why only by getting other members involved
can we get it sorted.
I am truly sorry about your vote and 4stars would be appropiate
so i hope tarn will adjust for you.
I hope you understand my reasoning on this and if you look at my voting through the years you will see the way i often vote.
This was an exteme measure and I hope it will shake up the members so that in the future peoples hard work will not be insulted as I felt mine was by just a small collection of idiots.
I strongly believe that members with movies in or about to go in cinema should not vote on other top ten movies.
My awarding myself 5stars was an attempt to reduce damage done by one of the fxhomers voting chaos and I mentioned this when in chat room.
Yes I redited my post in the hope that you would see there was summit up and at least query it with me
You now have 4stars as you rightly should and I stick by my comments..well done.
FXhomers......46379 have made things look suspect.
I hope that the powers that be will try and sort this out because it
truly is insulting to have people put 1 or no stars on work that we have all been doing for months and quite frankly I was prepared to leave this site and go to a more mature one.
I've been a member here for many years and seen the problems caused by individuals who seem to take great pleasure in screwing everything up.
If you have time look at the voting on my movie and I think you will understand my frustration and perhaps this thread will develop into
summit useful.

I hope you can understand the logic behind this and accept my apologies for using your great movie to draw attention to this
problem.

Regards
Dave

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I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but as a moderator I feel the need to reply to Davlin.

First of all, I have to admit I'm a bit puzzled about this reaction to a few low votes really. Someone gives you a 0 vote and you go

frankly I was prepared to leave this site and go to a more mature one.


about it and vote 2 stars one someone elses film just to make a point?
Or simply put: A 13 year old kid has given a 63 year old, mature man a 1 star vote and the 63 year old goes about voting low on other peoples work as a response. That doesn't sound right now, does it?

Apologies Davlin, but I have to say that this is not exactly an appropriate response. Neither Seven has anything to do with the fact someone gave your film a low vote nor any of the fxhome staff, who have to spend their work time to manually correct your vote from the database just because you tried to prove something - which you seem to take for granted.

And prove what? That some people have a different taste or vote dubious? There's no need to prove that, everyone already knows. That's how it works. Pretty much all of my films have 0 votes or votes/comments I don't agree with, so what?

it truly is insulting to have people put 1 or no stars on work that we have all been doing for months
I understand you put a lot of time into your work, so do many people. And I also understand a low vote or comment might not feel appropriate, but if you're that sensitive, I would seriously think about publishing work on any kind of public forum. Because there's bound to be people who simply dislike or even disregard your work, simply because they don't care.
It's commendable you usually show such a high respect for the work people put into their films and I honestly respect that about you, but you can't expect that from everyone towards everything they see.

There's nothing we can do about it. Or do you expect us mods to manually check and correct all cinema votes given? I wouldn't even know what to base that check on, other then "dubious appearance" which is hardly an objective criteria. And if anything's modded, that's exactly what it should be.


I'm sorry if I'm being a bit blunt, bit I really feel your actions are very inappropriate and I don't wish for this to be an example to others.
I hope you will get over your disappointment davlin and will stay with fxhome, even if there's the occasional vote that feels unjustified. We all experience that. But I don't want to see everyone going around deliberately doing dodgy voting to make a point.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 11:36am

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Marco
Of course everything you say is true but what a shame you were'nt as quick to respond when I put up a post about this after being in
chat room as well.
THe administration has a responsibilty to its members that the forums are run correctly so it doesn't wash when you say "we all know it happens" ...do summit about it!
It seems also the only way to get any kind of response on this site is to act like a 13year old as it seems to geared for that anyway.
I don't see why I or any other member should just sit back as some "kid" decides to screw the system and just say to ourselves
"Oh well these things happen".....what is the point of putting on movies in cinema if you don't care what happens in the voting.
Sometimes it is necessary to bring things forward even if it is a little
controversial to get things aired and perhaps get some problems solved.
You should be more concerned with the fxhomers who are screwing the system and less so of people following my silly example of which i'm sure will be in their millions.....hehe.

With respect

Dave
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what a shame you were'nt as quick to respond when I put up a post about this after being in chat room as well.
Simply because I obviously wasn't in chatroom and didn't see your post. Care to give me a link? I'd rather continue this debate, if there has to be one, in this thread then not to occupy anymore of Seven's movie thread.
Posted: Thu, 19th Jul 2007, 11:48am

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http://fxhome.com/cinema/info_cache/movieinfo2769.html

you can use my thread Marco.

I would like to make it abundantly clear that this is NOT about getting a poor response from reviewers but about vote rigging.

speak soon


respect

Dave
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2007, 8:37pm

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Well, we've been up for about two weeks now. I suspect it won't be long until two more movies are released and we're pushed off the main page. Are there any other final comments of constructive criticism before this film fades into obscurity? smile
Posted: Mon, 23rd Jul 2007, 8:49pm

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I hope you have forgiven me for wasting your movie thread with my
probs.
A great movie and I hope it'll do better still before we all fall out.


best wishes

Dave
Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2007, 9:42am

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davlin wrote:

I hope you have forgiven me for wasting your movie thread with my
probs.
A great movie and I hope it'll do better still before we all fall out.


best wishes

Dave
Yes, you are forgiven. Just PM someone the next time you'd like to make a point. I'm sure they'll listen. wink
Posted: Tue, 24th Jul 2007, 11:39am

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Will do and thanks


best wishes


Dave
Posted: Fri, 27th Jul 2007, 9:30pm

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Videoace123

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WAn't my favourite movie ever, but it kept me very interested. 3 stars biggrin
Posted: Sat, 28th Jul 2007, 7:13pm

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Brett Plank

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hhaha i've read that book and i have it
Posted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2007, 3:38pm

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fisher

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quite nice movie but...
WHO made that Poster? I want that guy for Scorpions Productions wink
Well in fact... take a look at www.scorpions-productions.ch

greez luzifer