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Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2007, 11:02pm

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I noticed that hot fuzz is mentioned sometimes on this website, does this mean that the movie was made with fxhome products?
Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2007, 11:09pm

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No, but you might be thinking of the "Hot Fuzztival" which I went to, and wrote up a news post about.

You can read about it here.
Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2007, 11:17pm

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Rating: +1

And of course Nick Frost was digitally recreated in every scene from old AlamDV2 plugins.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 8:12am

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Lots of movies are mentioned on this website. smile Also lots of computer games, celebrities, filmmakers, politicians etc...they weren't all made using our software (although that would be cool). razz

Hmmm.....PoliticianLab Pro.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 8:26am

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Speakin of, I rented this film the other day with some friends. Went into the movie with a "shawn of the dead" type of humor mindset... We all laughed once... This movie was so bad.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 8:30am

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CX3 wrote:

Speakin of, I rented this film the other day with some friends. Went into the movie with a "shawn of the dead" type of humor mindset... We all laughed once... This movie was so bad.
Same here. Not to mention, Nick Frost simply isn't funny. I personally thought the "Dawn of the Dead" remake was funnier then "Shawn of the dead" anyways. (And I like British humor most of the time)
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 8:32am

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We were discussing Hot Fuzz in chat the other day. Our (well, me and xcession) general conclusion was:

Shaun of the Dead works because it's a parody of the zombie/horror genre. The zombie/horror genre is usually extremely serious, often very scary, disturbing, etc. Therefore doing a 'funny' version of it works really well.

Action movies, on the other hand, have always been extremely funny, very camp and pretty stupid, but not deliberately. As such, they've always been accidental comedies - there's barely anything left to parody, because they are accidental self-parodies already.

Therefore, Hot Fuzz is kinda just showing us stuff we already know, rather than putting an 'amusing twist' on things. As such, it sits in an awkward middle-ground: it's not quite an action movie, and it's not quite a proper comedy either.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 8:47am

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I thought Hot Fuzz was a great time at the movies.

A few good laughs here and there ("but he's not Judge Judy and executioner!" and the whole eating the ice cream really fast thing, that's happened to me) but mainly some really well done action in an altogether previously slow, extremely foreboding film.

In fact, this movie is one of the most well-done 'constantly foreboding' movies I've ever seen: everything seemed like it was leading up to some final doom; from him riding the train to the country to jogging the next morning. It was all very cool.

I'd give it an 8/10. At least.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 9:16am

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I bought it on DVD are what I like about it is they didn't really try to parody an action film. THey just kind of made thier own action film and through in all those "accidental funnies" into their movie.

If nothing more it's a good story. Maybe not the funniest of movies but an enjoyable movie none the less.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 9:17am

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Mm, I thoroughly enjoyed it at the cinema - you can't beat the granny flying kick - but it seemed to lack the 'instant classic' status that Spaced and Shaun of the Dead had for me.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 9:36am

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Now I have to see it just because you said "granny flying kick"

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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 9:48am

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It's awesome, I just love the shootout at the end.
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 12:51pm

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I liked Hot Fuzz but wasn't as good as Shaun and also, I don't want to now see Pegg/Frost making comedies out of every genre just for the sake of it. There were certainly less laughs, but it was funny in a different kind of way. Felt like watching Midsomer Murders a lot of the time though (rather silly detective drama that's set in many different villages in the fictional county of Midsomer, with the same ridiculous kind of plots and deaths).
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 4:06pm

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I think that if they got rid of all the cursing (wich i hate in films). and did'nt talk for have the movie it would be alot more funny. or they could have made it a serious film and made that little stupid cult not old people.

If your going to make a really good comedy, it should be a Monty Python film!
Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2007, 4:33pm

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Well, I thought that "hot Fuzz" wasnt as good as "Shawn of the Dead", but it was still pretty funny...

The action sequences are well cut/edited aswell ...

but the end is just so rediculously funny biggrin

cya
Posted: Sat, 11th Aug 2007, 9:17am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

they could have made it a serious film
To do that would make the entire film completely pointless, it would just become the very thing that it's mocking: just another brainless action movie clone. Your post makes me think you just didn't "get" the movie rather than it being unfunny (given that humour is a subjective thing you can decide if there's any difference between something being unfunny and someone just not "getting it".)
Posted: Tue, 21st Aug 2007, 10:47pm

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Oh so making it a stupid comedy with way to much cursing and gore makes not a brainless movie clone!....huh...
Posted: Tue, 21st Aug 2007, 10:51pm

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Hot Fuzz is a comedy if it was serious it would destroy the purpose of the film.
Posted: Tue, 21st Aug 2007, 11:55pm

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was there REALLY a purpose in the movie at all anyway!?!
Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007, 12:43am

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People have different tastes, if you didn't like it then accept that and move on. Trying to convince people who did like it that they're wrong is pointless especially when, as in this case, you are in the minority.
Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007, 3:44am

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Rating: +1

Kid wrote:

People have different tastes, if you didn't like it then accept that and move on. Trying to convince people who did like it that they're wrong is pointless especially when, as in this case, you are in the minority.
Well I guess I am too. And this time its not because I'm black.
Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007, 8:03am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

I think that if they got rid of all the cursing (wich i hate in films)
It's there not in a gratuitous way, though, and I think that is key. Have you even seen the movie? You've said countlessly you're 13......have you actually seen it? If so, you'll know there's a swear-box itself in the movie, and almost all of the lines with foul language are imitating some 90s action movie.

"You're a doctor, deal with it."
"Yeah, motherfocker."

And

"THIS SHET JUST GOT REAL!"

are both prime examples used, quite obviously (through the exact same camera angles and as cited in the movie itself) from 'Bad Boys 2'.
Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2007, 5:39pm

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I agree with Atom, taking out the swearing would ruin the anti-cheesy humour of it, and also making it a serious film would be pointless

The point of the film was really they wanted to make fun of big-shot action block busters by having an action film set in rural England, and how the clash of themes somehow becomes very funny, especially near the end where there is a massive shoot - out, which seems stupid because its making fun of how unrealistic and cheesy quite alot of action films are.

the gore kinda does the same sort-of thing, aswell as the comic feature, for the first half of the film it works quite well as a tense mystery, coupled with the ignorance of the rest of the police team, and Danny Butterman (Nick Frost) great desire to be a tough cop in an action film world, later almost given to him by the bizzare plot undwinding into the ending

I personally thourt it was a brilliant film, but not as good as Shaun of The Dead or Spaced
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 12:32am

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people who curse have a pretty low intelligence because thats all they ever say wich means they have a pretty small vocabulary, and its a sign of imaturety.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 12:56am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

people who curse have a pretty low intelligence because thats all they ever say wich means they have a pretty small vocabulary, and its a sign of imaturety.
Actually what you just said makes you look extremely unintelligent. I dont curse but just because people do curse doesnt make them stupid. You really need to watch what you say or your not gonna make very many friends on here.

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Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 1:08am

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You are GREATLY overgeneralizing. Stupid people do tend to swear badly all the time, but it's not because someone swears that he is dumb. In this case, they are actually making fun of it, which seems to have totally flown over your head.

ChristianFilmer, I'm not trying to insult your beliefs here, but I strongly suggest you go out and listen to someone other than your youth pastor. At the very least, you'd know what you were talking about and reinforce your beliefs. Ideally, of course, you'd realise how wrong you are, but seeing as I thought along the same lines as you at your age, I forgive you.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 1:17am

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He just needs to go off to college. Then he'll see what the f*** we're talkin about.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 1:19am

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Don't listen to CX3, he's unintelligent.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 1:25am

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Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 1:58am

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if what you say is true than genuises lets say albert einstien would have curesd just as many times as your average middel schooler.

oh and CX3 im 13 im not going to colledge anytime soon

and im sorry if i offended anyone who likes to cures or thinks its SOOOOO cool!
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 2:30am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:



and im sorry if i offended anyone who likes to cures or thinks its SOOOOO cool!
It's not a matter of being cool, it's a matter of expressing one's self. I curse because I don't think "frick", "heck", "shoot", and "crud" appropriately express the anger/frustration/amazement/happiness/sadness/(insert ANY emotion in here) that I might be feeling at the time.

pluz if ur dont curze ur a fag LOL!1

Oh and for the record, I loved Hot Fuzz.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 2:33am

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there is a whole lot of other words that express emotions better than cures words. read the dictionary
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 2:35am

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I don't think I've ever seen two people have a message board fight in two seperate threads at the same time before.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 2:41am

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lol
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8maMmj5u58

Here is a perfect example of a case where you couldn't replace the swearing (when he says SOB). That is a case of well-used swearing. And by the way, Albert Einstein DID swear, except swearing was a bit different back then.

Don't get me wrong though, middle schoolers that don't know how to swear and do it at every sentence get on my nerves too. It's just that it isn't swearing that is the problem, it's the middle schoolers.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 6:20am

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Trust me, you'll come to know that nothing gets out frustration like saying a good "F***!" or "D***!!!"

If you get in a heated argument and some guy says something about you that makes you want to kill him (figuratively). Saying F*** you! and walking away, helps.

Saying, "Forget you pal!" and walking away still makes you wanna punch him or something else.

God/The Bible/What-have-you never said anything bad about saying any curse words.

ps: I still think its funny how a certain motion of the lips plus vocal projection can be considered foul hah.
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CX3 wrote:

God/The Bible/What-have-you never said anything bad about saying any curse words.

ps: I still think its funny how a certain motion of the lips plus vocal projection can be considered foul hah.
Wrong, actually.

Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Matthew 5:34-36 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

Matthew 23:21-22 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.


Although my favorites must be:


Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.


Leviticus 24:23 And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.


And there are many more.


So yeah, join the movement, do what the Lord has commanded you to do, and go thrown stones at and then kill everybody you hear swearing. It's the intelligent thing to do.
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K, I'll do that later.


But I always translated that swearing as "I swear on my life" or "I swear I will"

Also, the

Exodus 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
... I take that as saying "God D*****". I never said anything about that. "Damn" and "F***" dont have the word "God" in it, unless you use "God" as a prefix. Yep.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 6:44am

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To start, no one throw Bible-jargon at him, it'll do no good and go back-and-forth. Also, I find it personally offensive to directly use the Bible to either attack, discredit, or wield in some negative way- even if it to counter a point. Pooky, I know your intentions, just saying in advance. smile

From there, here's what I have to say to Mr. Controversy:

Just for your information, ChristianFilmer, you're not doing any of us other Christians any favors by sounding like a total idiot, being a complete jackass, and wildly misrepresenting and unintelligibly defending your religion.

I know your intentions are good and understand to a extent what you're saying, but the rationale you're using is only convincing yourself and rather ticking everyone else off.

If you had come here a year or two ago, you'd see how myself, Ben, ssjohn, and ssjaaron were probably some of the utmost representatives of Christianity and 'proper' filmmaking.

And, while my intentions haven't changed over that time, I know when and what to say (at least in a more mature way), and that's why you don't see me getting all bent out of shape with it. Sure, I disagree with cussing, much as I do gratuitous violence, and I hate some movies and directors (notably, the 'great' Quentin Tarantino)- but I can accept certain amounts as either realistic or complete suspensions of reality. (Say, 'Superbad' as a realistic use of cussing- used heavily but not gratuitously. And there's a difference.)

I hope you get what I'm saying, because quite frankly, you're acting like a complete and utter n00b, and taking down a religion that isn't only yours with you.

And this is coming from a strictly high-morale, devout Christian. None of my movies have an excess of violence or language or drug/sex abuse in them, but the parts that do are generally explained and looked-down at. I hope you can see what I'm saying and achieve the same. If so, you won't have to defend such ideals as much, as they'll be evident in your movies.
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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

people who curse have a pretty low intelligence because thats all they ever say wich means they have a pretty small vocabulary, and its a sign of imaturety.
I curse- sometimes gratuitously, oftentimes not at all- and yet I'm capable of constructing better, more syntactically-correct sentences than more than ninety-percent of the people on this website. I try to use correct grammar and proper diction in most every situation I can find myself in, be it in life or online. Rightly so, I find it appalling and wildly incoherent when you throw out a contrived generalization like this. I am not a person of low intelligence, nor are profanities all I speak.

I'd mastered more than a third of the 80,000 or so words in Webster's New Annotated Dictionary by the time I was in eighth-grade. Can the same be said for you? I can also bet you I have a better knowledge of the Christian faith; something you seem to be big on touting lately, albeit erroneous in purpose.

This post is not an attempt to completely unhinge what you're trying to say. Rather, it's to influence you to take a different approach to argument; as it's obvious you've yet to convey your point with any fraction of style or, more importantly, efficiency.

Think about what you're saying before you sling crazy, disjointed generalizations out into the open. Hold your tongue before you say something and actually think through it. Two historic sources I know of said it best....

Proverbs 29:11 wrote:

A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.
And perhaps a more modern approach to the same statement...

Abraham Lincoln wrote:

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
As for what Pooky is citing: those are references to swearing to God, swearing "on your life", or swearing otherwise that gives vanity or disrespect to the Lord. Words derived from harmless things that have been given a negative capacity- namely racial slurs and today's garden-variety 'cuss' words- are not what is mentioned in the Bible.

I'm guilty of the actual sorts of swears on a daily basis, though I try not to.

And with that, I bid you adieu.
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As for what Pooky is citing: those are references to swearing to God, swearing "on your life", or swearing otherwise that gives vanity or disrespect to the Lord. Words derived from harmless things that have been given a negative capacity- namely racial slurs and today's garden-variety 'cuss' words- are not what is mentioned in the Bible.
Correct, actually.
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Atom wrote:

Just for your information, ChristianFilmer, you're not doing any of us other Christians any favors by sounding like a total idiot, being a complete jackass
There's no need to start slinging around insults like 'idiot' and 'complete jackass', Atom, especially as you're trying to argue that ChristianFilmer shouldn't make assumptions about people's intelligence.

Let's keep it civil.

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You really need to watch what you say or your not gonna make very many friends on here. Or you could get... banned.
Firstly, nobody is going to be banned simply for stating their opinion, no matter how wrong it is. smile I don't want people to think that they can't speak their mind, for fear of being 'banned'. That's not what FXhome.com is about.

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people who curse have a pretty low intelligence because thats all they ever say wich means they have a pretty small vocabulary, and its a sign of imaturety.
As has been pointed out, that's a gross generalisation. Swear words are indeed just words and part of a vocabulary - if they're the only vocab you've got, then, yes, you've got a problem. But if they're part of a much wider use of language, then that's fine.

It's entirely up to the individual whether to use swear words or not - it doesn't make people cool or uncool either way, which is something you'll come to realise as you get older.

One interesting thing about language is that often the fewer words used results in the most powerful sentiment. If you think about some of the most moving phrases in the English language - "I love you", "goodbye" - it's clear that you don't need to be overly verbose to get a point across.

Swear words are simply another side of that same coin - sure, you could take a while to explain your anger/frustration/etc, but chances are that very emotion will have dissipated, or your real feelings will end up being diluted. A simple, single swear word can therefore be far more effective at illustrating your state of mind.

Of course, whether you want to reveal your state of mind in such a blunt manner is an entirely other debate. Personally I hardly ever swear, except during periods of extreme unexpected stress/pain - or for occasional comedy effect.

Swearing is a completely viable use of language but, as with all things, it needs to be used intelligently or not at all.