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Hitman - does it need a girl?

Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 12:34pm

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Timothy Olyphant, star of the forthcoming Hitman movie, based on the popular games, was recently interviewed and quoted as saying: "look, it's a movie. You've got to have the girl in it." It's a curious statement, on several levels. Have action movies become so generic that they simply have to have a love interest, whether it is relevant or not? It also raises the question of whether game-to-movie adaptations are even possible without losing the very essence of the original.
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 12:54pm

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All I know is that Timothy Olyphany kicked ass in 'The Girl Next Door' as the sleazy porn producer. Great role.
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 12:57pm

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His name is Timothy Olyphant for christ's sake! Credit where due!
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:03pm

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I just think it's a terrible mistake casting such a cardboard actor in this role. But then game to movie adaptations are usually pants, and always JUST about the money!
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:34pm

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Watch The Girl Next Door, this guy can act; I just don't think he's an action type.

And sorry, Xcession. The people who invented the QWERTY keyboard are also sorry they put "Y" right next to "T" in the event of a typo. wink
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:37pm

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Heh, I hadn't actually noticed your typo. I meant rather, that anyone with a name as cool as that can take a liberty or two, in my book razz
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:41pm

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ben3308 wrote:

Watch The Girl Next Door, this guy can act
he played the same character in Go, and his characters in Gone in 60 Seconds, Die Hard 4.0 and even Catch & Release are very similar too.

But then again, the Hitman character doesn't exactly require a diverse actor. I just think Olyphant's look is all wrong, even with the shaved head. But at least with him playing the part, I KNOW the film's gonna be awful!
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:46pm

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I'll agree the Go character is the same, but Die Hard 4 and Catch & Release aren't even close.

If they wrote this movie well, to where Olyphant has the cool creepiness he was able to convey in Girl Next Door with the bravado and debonair a hitman character requires, then I don't think it'll be all that bad.

I understand your concerns with the actor, but I think it's a bit ridiculous that you're condemning the movie before actually seeing any of it.
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:55pm

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I'm condemning the movie based on the actor in the lead role and Hollywood's past experience with game to movie adaptations. I hope to be pleasantly surprised, however smile
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 1:56pm

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I'll admit I don't like the trailer and have never been a fan of the game, but I'm at least going to see the movie to see how it turns out. I'm glad to hear you'll be doing the same.

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Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 2:03pm

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I've not played the games myself either, as it happens, but I do hear from reliable sources (ie, Sollthar) that they're quite spiffy - in particular the latest one. From screenshots and videos I've seen, however, I've always thought the character to be quite a bit older than Olyphant.

Still, we can't really judge his performance until we've seen the film. It's more his thoughts on the inevitably of including a love interest that bothers me. There's a certain lack of creativity inherent in the comment that worries me far more than his actual casting.
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 2:05pm

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The Hitman storyline (game) has a woman as part of the story, though she isn't his love interest at all. Hitman is void of that emotion.

The female in the games is a sort of miss moneypenny in the sense that she's his office communication who forwards the jobs to him and keeps a lookout for his safety - most notably at the end of the most recent game where, without spoiling it for those who haven't played it - she puts into action the saving of Hitman's life and career.

Similar to the secretary in Grosse Point Blank too, I suppose. I hope the film stays true to the character and background of Hitman as it's not like there isn't plenty of room within which to create an interesting film. I suspect however that the same will happen as with the Resident Evil film. Meaning that the finite details and brilliant depth of the computer games story will be over-ruled in favour of something more mainstream. Problematically - the majority of the audience for computer game film translations are fans of the games.

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Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 2:18pm

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Tarn wrote:

It's more his thoughts on the inevitably of including a love interest that bothers me. There's a certain lack of creativity inherent in the comment that worries me far more than his actual casting.
I absolutely agree. it speaks to his acting track record, each role being a slightly modified version of the last. How does this guy keep getting roles?! He's not even good looking!!
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 4:09pm

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Not sure what to think of this movie really. I've played through all of the Hitman games, except for the first one, and he certainly seems to be much older than Timothy Olyphant is. Also, in every game he's so emotionally detached, that I think it might be a bad move to have a love interest for Agent 47. I think Jason Statham would fit much better, even if it would pretty much be a reprise of what he's done before in "Crank" and "The Transporter".

The comment about that you nowadays must have a love interest in an action movie struck me as quite odd. I would hate to see most films go generic. There's not any set rules for action, adventure, drama or comedy films is there now, because if that was the case, I think it'd get quite boring since you would basically watch the same movie over and over again.
Posted: Thu, 16th Aug 2007, 5:06pm

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This is not a role for Olyphant, never has never will.

Jason Statham on the other hand, contains the roughness and the looks, that the character (Agent 47) has. Bad casting, but not as bad as back when the were thinking of Vin Diesel.

I love the games, but they don't really fit into the movie universe. The games contain a lot of places, not linked at all. And there is no real storyline to follow.

It seems to me like a shameless use of a "brand".
Posted: Fri, 17th Aug 2007, 12:21pm

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I have serious doubts about this film already, just from the trailer. For a start the idea was concieved for a game, that in itself is enough to say no to an adatation to film. This has been done with other various flops such as resident evil, house of the dead, alone in the dark and so on. The main issuse I have with this is it just feels like a fan film, there's not much originality in it and I'd much rather watch something that's not just copy and pasted from a game with a twist of lemon.

Fair enough the film isn't out yet and it could suprise us, but I really don't thin it will.
Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2007, 10:03am

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I'm not a fan of game to movie crossovers at all. They are almost without exception awful. For me the only movie from a game I've found stood alone as a movie in its own right was Silent Hill. Now I'm sure others would disagree about hat and fair enough. I have never played the game, indeed I'm not a big game player but for me this film stands on its own as a movie game tie in or not. It's almost but not quite enough to offset the terrible attempts such as Tomb Raider and Doom and the others mentioned earlier in the thread.