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er-no releases Skin Deep teaser trailer

Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 2:53pm

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Joby 'er-no' Stephens has been busy working on the follow-up to Project One, a process he chronicled in a production journal on the FXhome.com forum. The film is finally complete and has already been accepted to the Central Florida Film Festival. The best news is that the teaser trailer has been released and can be watched over at the official site!
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 3:09pm

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cool, nice looking girls smile quality looks good.
editing even looks good.

Not my type of film though, but I wish you all the best with it.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 3:10pm

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QuickTime HD Version of Teaser <<--- CLICK/RIGHT CLICK HERE

Woo smile

Thanks to everyone at FXhome for support throughout production! Go check out the trailer and let me know what you think! biggrin A few lucky fxhome members have seen the film too.. Hope its not too long before you guys can see it also wink
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 5:16pm

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Cool-looking stuff. I even downloaded the press pack just to check it out.

The set itself and open form for shooting is my favorite part thus far. Best of luck with it all!
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 5:20pm

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Atom wrote:

Cool-looking stuff. I even downloaded the press pack just to check it out.

The set itself and open form for shooting is my favorite part thus far. Best of luck with it all!
The set was EVIL to build. And very. very. heavy....
We'd not tiled before either... so tiling 1100 tiles in a day was pretty much a fun learning curve biggrin Thanks Atom wink
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 6:42pm

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Looks awesome. Can't wait to see more. Great music choice in the teaser BTW.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 6:53pm

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Loved the look of the trailer. The editing looked good and the grading looked good. The music reminded me of 'Nightcast' trailers with the heartbeat style pacing. Looking forward to seeing this.

Well done Joby

B3N
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 7:32pm

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Wow, good work, Joby! You really got my attention during the entire duration. The music perfectly matched the video. Go on this way! biggrin
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 7:36pm

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Wow, nice work er-no. Congrats ont he film festival.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 7:51pm

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Great teaser. Looks extremely professional, good luck at the festival.
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 10:23pm

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Looks VERY good er-no. I can't wait to see it. Congrats on the film festival and I hope you guys win!!
Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2007, 10:48pm

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This looks great, I can't wait to get my hands on a copy! Good luck with the film festival!
Posted: Sat, 25th Aug 2007, 2:05am

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Looks cool. But I have seen another film called that. What I mean is that the title is already taken. It won bunch of awards and it was really popular in Jamaica, Miami... and bunch of others. Everything looks cool but I just wanted to point out that the title has been used. But it doesn't really matter does it? smile
Posted: Sat, 25th Aug 2007, 2:12am

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Awesome stuff! I can't wait for the release. Nice job as usual er-no!
Posted: Sat, 25th Aug 2007, 1:49pm

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Thanks guys! smile

In regards to the sound and music, that was all mixed and created with samples and assets by mostly myself.. As for 'Skin Deep' being a title other films have.. that doesn't matter, if you check out IMDB you'll notice there are many films that have been called Skin Deep, different film, different genres whatever.. I'm not too bothered smile It's relevant and definite for my script and future feature!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1080814/

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Posted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007, 5:45am

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I like 'Deep Freeze' much better either way. As I see in the trailer and in the press kit synopsis, I see why you went with 'Skin Deep', though.
Posted: Sun, 26th Aug 2007, 11:38am

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Atom wrote:

I like 'Deep Freeze' much better either way. As I see in the trailer and in the press kit synopsis, I see why you went with 'Skin Deep', though.
Yeah, I preferred 'Deep Freeze' too.. but for a string reason of production problems we had to change it to 'Skin Deep'.. which also fits with elements of the script smile
Posted: Mon, 27th Aug 2007, 2:07pm

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Congratulations on a great trailer and website. Looking forward to seeing it in the future. Looks very good Joby! smile
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 10:50am

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Is it too late to comment on the trailer?

Overall it looks great, but the trailer only had a quarter the impact it should have done, because the moods feel really imbalanced to me.

You've done the same thing I noticed in redhawk's latest film 16: you've got regular speed shots of happy people having fun in happy places, with happy sounds of happy people laughing happily....yet with an eerie soundtrack. It just doesn't....fit.

The Standard American Horror Movie Trailer Format tends to splice images of 'The Bad' in with 'The Good' and totally replaces the sound of 'The Good' with 'The Bad', or messes with The Good's sound, so you're under no illusions that "all is not well". I'm loathed to admit to pandering to that format, since its so very hackneyed, but your format just didn't do it for me.

Your trailer, conversely, has an over-abundance of Good during The Good scene. If the viewer is too attracted* by The Good then - rather than making The Bad seem worse, as you'd think - it simply weakens The Bad.

* The large jubbling boobs shot contributes the majority of the imbalance of mood. Boobs are great, but for a red-blooded male audience, will detract a huge amount from The Bad. While boobs rule, that shot should definitely be cut.

I appreciate if its too late to comment, but since the film in general looks awesome and I know you've put loads into it, its just really frustrating to watch only a semi-effective trailer.
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:10am

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Never too late to comment on the trailer Xcession... I don't quite get what you are saying. It's a teaser trailer that follows conventional methods of teasing. Offering spliced together shots based and driven along by the music and audio of the trailer. I appreciate that it isn't perfect, infact its far from what I would want as in an ideal world I'd go back and film things again...

Your feedback falls onto the 'other' side of the fence. And whilst I value your opinion, I'm overall happy with the feedback received.

I apologise for not displaying breeeeeeeeasts in a better way. Perhaps I should take a look at this.
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:19am

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Your trailer follows the conventions of 'teasing', but not those of a standard thriller/horror trailer. Ordinarily I'd say its a good thing to avoid The Norm, but on this occasion I became aware that I wasn't really 'feeling' it, because it wasn't presented in the usual way.

In my experience horror trailers, specifically, splice a couple of horro frames - complete with screams or whatever - at key intervals during the shots of nice stuff going on. So in words it would go something like this...

Intro wording
Shots of people dancing
having fun
Someone laughs
SUDDENLY A SHOT OF BLOOD ON A WALL
back to people dancing, everything is fun
more wording
back to happy scene, but everything slows down, pleasant laughs become a deep demonic cackle
and now you're in the 'nasty' segment of the trailer
exit

Cliched as hell, i'm sure you'll agree, but it would have grabbed my attention a great deal more than having to endure the 99% happy first half of the trailer, just to get to the 99% unhappy second half, which was the good bit.
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:29am

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Just as well the film is 99% all unhappy weird eerie stuff then ey?

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Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:31am

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In that case it seems odd that so much of the trailer was happy then - in fact surely it paints an inaccurate picture of the final film?
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:35am

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Xcession wrote:

In that case it seems odd that so much of the trailer was happy then - in fact surely it paints an inaccurate picture of the final film?
It doesn't paint an inaccurate picture of the final film, I'm just under my own impression that I feel the entire teaser is 'weird' and 'eerie', I get that vibe whenever I use heartbeats and thats why I chose to edit it in the way it has been. I don't agree with your 99% 'happy' amount of the teaser, I'd say there is only three parts of the trailer I'd see as outside of the thriller/horror genre, and that would be the first few shots, but even those shots have a slowed down angle grinder sound as a backing sound, coupled with a pulsing heartbeat.

smile As for my above post. I was merely entertaining you.
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:42am

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Yeah i did notice some kind of weird sound, didn't realise it was that though. In theory, the eerie sounds would do the same job as splicing footage of gore like i suggested, but perhaps it just wasn't prominent enough. I certainly wouldn't have included the sounds of the girls laughing, for example. Since just hearing laughter can chemically make you more relaxed, it wasn't working to your advantage if you want your audience to feel the impact of the horror segment.
Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007, 11:45am

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I included the sound of the girls laughing for many reasons, editing wise it acted as a bridge between the transition in atmosphere and music, it also helped me introduce the second part of the sound edit which exists in the actual film. I find it genuinely interesting that you mention the laughing part, as only yesterday the storyboard artist was telling me that was his favorite part of the trailer (along with the manic mans laugh).