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Sweeney Todd trailer

Posted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007, 9:21am

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The trailer for Tim Burton's new film is now available over at Yahoo and is a typically demented affair. Sweeney Todd stars Johnny Depp (of course) as the eponymous murderous barber and looks to have blended the brightly coloured Burton of Mars Attacks! and Big Fish with the gothic stylings of Batman and Sleepy Hollow. Looks like it could be Burton's best film for years!
Posted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007, 9:26am

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I think this movie is going to be rather spectacular. It has to be because it is starring Johnny Depp which is my favourite character for various reasons smile
Posted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007, 10:17pm

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That looks pretty great!

But hold on a second... was he... singing?
Posted: Sat, 6th Oct 2007, 11:34am

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It is a remake of a musical...
Posted: Mon, 8th Oct 2007, 11:11pm

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I'm kinda scared; Tim Burton has a lot to answer for. Between Corpse Bride, The Nightmare Before Christmas, and the way he portrayed Willy Wonka as gay in his remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, I think he's a nutcase. His movies are just downright bizarre. I don't get what he thinks he's accomplishing by endearing himself to the Goth kids at my school.
Posted: Fri, 12th Oct 2007, 11:31am

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i cant wait for sweeney todd to come out.. my two favorite film people working together again.. TIM BURTON AND THE EVER INSPIRING JOHNNY DEPP....


WHAT A GREAT CHRISTMAS GIFT!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007, 6:38pm

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The Duelist wrote:

I'm kinda scared; Tim Burton has a lot to answer for. Between Corpse Bride,
I'll give you that one.

The Nightmare Before Christmas,
First off, he didn't direct, just slapped his money and name on it. Second, Nightmare is a terrific work.

and the way he portrayed Willy Wonka as gay in his remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, I think he's a nutcase.
Say what you want, but his 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' was dead-on with the book. Almost exactly. And the atmosphere and characters fit perfectly. I was absolutely weirded-out by Depp at first, but then after listening to my little brother's book-on-tape in the car of the book, the sound and look of Wonka was absolutely perfect. And it was comical and odd in the movie, too!

It's just unfortunate we live in the age of the peak of Michael Jackson's oddness, which no doubt did the movie and Wonka comparisons some harm.

His movies are just downright bizarre. I don't get what he thinks he's accomplishing by endearing himself to the Goth kids at my school.
You've obviously missed the whole "style" thing to filmmakers. smile
Posted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007, 7:06pm

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You dissing "The Nightmare before Christmas", Duellist? Careful, one of my all time favorite movies and, in my eyes, a fantastic piece of art in every department, with a brilliant soundtrack by also-awesome Danny Elfman.
In fact, Burton is my favorite director. So he's doing quite a lot of things right. wink


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First off, he didn't direct, just slapped his money and name on it.
Actually, Burton wrote the screenplay and was on set to "assist" Selick for more then half of the production. And "assist" means: Making sure he does it the way he would have. He also sat with Elfman on the scores and designed all the characters. So Nightmare before Christmas is indeed a Burton film.
Posted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007, 8:36pm

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Sollthar wrote:

In fact, Burton is my favorite director. So he's doing quite a lot of things right. wink
But of course. Oppositely, I suppose that's why the Scott brothers aren't doing much then, eh? wink
Posted: Fri, 19th Oct 2007, 8:43pm

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Au contraire, mon petit americain.

Good old Ridley is a cool bloke, even though his quality varies from brilliant to whatthehellwashethinking. Tony is a very neat director (brilliantly hilarious one-liner-action in the last boyscout anyone?) who just happens to sometimes have a terrible visual taste.


Well, let's not stay off topic though.

Sweeney Todd looks weird even to me as a Burton Fan. The artdesign reminds me of Sleepy Hollow, which is my favorite film ever so that's a great sign. Having said that, Burton went a bit too deep into the "being weird" hole with his last two films Corpse Bride and Chocolate Charly and this appears to be similar. But I'll definately go see it. It's a Burton.
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 1:04am

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This trailer weirded me out. And I like weird.. but I wasn't sure on its exact angle. Gotta say though.. I'm intrigued, and not many trailers do that anymore.. so well done Burton I guess...

As for 'Chocolate Charly' - haven't seen that one Sollthar. Musta slipped me by.
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 1:35am

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Sollthar wrote:

Tony is a very neat director (brilliantly hilarious one-liner-action in the last boyscout anyone?) who just happens to sometimes have a terrible visual taste.
Wait, what?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I like Tony because his visual style goes there. He's extreme and fresh and different, even when it pushes the limits a bit. I think that's also why people like Tim Burton for his gothic storytelling.

I like that about his Scott's visuals. Deja Vu had high contrast with clarity in the DP department (unlike the rough-film, grain-grit look of the crazy Man on Fire or even crazier Domino), sames goes for Enemy of the State, which had very little high-contrast segments, just clean camerawork. When Tony isn't as crazy with the film flickers, his visuals are superb. In fact, I'd say besides Burton, Tony Scott is the only one proven to use the dutch angle (amongst others) in a cool, unobtrusive way.
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 11:20am

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ben3308 wrote:

I'd say besides Burton, Tony Scott is the only one proven to use the dutch angle (amongst others) in a cool, unobtrusive way.
Well I dunno there was this guy a couple years back by the name of Hitchcock... wink And another guy named Orson Welles too, he used it once or twice. But really though, in modern times you still see the dutch tilt quite a bit. This doesn't mean it's commonplace, it would lose its intriuge if it were commonplace. Let's not forget the iconic swivel shot around Nicholas Cage as he stands that's in like half of the Jerry Bruckheimer movies ever made... That's (if I'm not mistaken) a dutch tilt, it works very well, and Tony Scott wasn't behind it.
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 11:25am

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Ben wrote:

I like Tony because his visual style goes there.
I know it's a style you like. I just happen to dislike it. I thought Domino looked absolutely headache inducingly terrible, Man of Fire was bearable visually because of Denzel Washington and Deja Vu was good at times and annoying at others.

I don't like MTV style visuals with wild camera movement, permanent shaking, OTT colorization and randomly fastpaced un-narrative editing . Never did. Never will. Be it by Tony Scott or someone else...
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 5:20pm

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Sollthar wrote:

MTV style
Ouch.
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 5:37pm

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The Duelist wrote:

I don't get what he thinks he's accomplishing by endearing himself to the Goth kids at my school.
Erm, finding a really loyal audience perhaps? I'm not really sure what you were meaning to say there - it sounds like you're trying to criticise him for appealing to a particular audience. But to criticise an entertainer for doing that would be to completely miss the entire point of entertainment in the first place...

Or do 'Goth kids' not deserve to be entertained, in your view? I'm really not sure where you're coming from there. But, then, if you feel the need to pigeonhole people into stereotypes like that, I probably never will. smile

Besides that, however, you also seem to be rather overlooking the fact that Burton appeals to a massively eclectic audience, from goths to mainstream. In fact, with a couple of exceptions, Burton's films work specifically because he takes surreal, absurdist ideas and then blends them perfectly with a really finely honed mainstream sensibility. It gives his movies a unique style and intriguing themes while still leaving them very accessible to most audiences.
Posted: Sat, 20th Oct 2007, 7:32pm

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Tarn wrote:

Burton's films work specifically because he takes surreal, absurdist ideas and then blends them perfectly with a really finely honed mainstream sensibility. It gives his movies a unique style and intriguing themes while still leaving them very accessible to most audiences.
Exactly. I wouldn't say it's so much his own spin on something with his 'style' as much of it is that he selectively chooses derivate works that will encompass it.

I mean, honestly, Batman, The Barber of Seville (Sweeney Todd), Wonka, Sleep Hollow (most specifically): All works that would almost require that sense of style from any filmmaker to begin with in order to get an appropriate atmosphere.

I saw Sleepy Hollow for the first time a few weeks ago, by far Burton's best work and perfectly cast/fitting.
Posted: Sun, 21st Oct 2007, 12:02am

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Somehow I've managed to completely miss this, and I must say this really looks like Burton's best film in years! It looks like a very interesting story as well, with some great casting (Depp, Bonham Carter and Rickman are awesome choices). Will definently watch this in theatres!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2007, 1:24pm

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I think this is going to be a huge hit, and personally I love most of what Burton does. Sleepy Hollow was awesome and Batman was probably one of my favorite films growing up. Also, I thought Big Fish was extremely good. I don't know anybody that doesnt feel a twinge of emotion at the end.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2007, 1:30pm

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Not sure anyone's seen this yet: There's a second trailer out -

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/20/sweeney-todd-movie-trailer-2-less-music-more-blood/
Posted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2007, 7:43pm

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Ohhh, that second trailer appeals MUCH MUCH MUCH better to me really. In fact, it's great! I hope the film is more like that one then the other one really.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Oct 2007, 11:41pm

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Burton takes an idea. Turns the lights off and begins to draw in the dark what he wants to happen.

This is how he creates his films.

It's fantastic.
Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2007, 5:30am

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er-no wrote:

Burton takes an idea. Turns the lights off and begins to draw in the dark what he wants to happen.

This is how he creates his films.

It's fantastic.
Really? Last I heard it was that elephant that can paint that did it for him, with the lights on no less.