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Posted: Mon, 15th Oct 2007, 7:41pm

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Hello there.

over the next few months im going to be asking quite a few questions. and rather than fill up the forum with loads of threads i thought to save space ill post them all into one thing.

in this thread ill enclude questions updates and stuff like that.

so there is the first thing

Questions

First: can any one help me think up some production company thread? (ive posted a link over at Evans Digital too so ill see what the best results ill get. im willing to give force points smile )

Second: ive been looking at a camera and was wondering if people could give my information about it? its a Canon XL2. what do you think?

Third: Can anyone surgest a Boom mic that give great quality like the sound you here in the real films?

There will be more to come!!!wink

THANK YOU FXMANIAC!!!
Posted: Mon, 15th Oct 2007, 7:53pm

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1) Digital Prime Productions
2) Dunno
3) ME66 is pretty standard, but movie-quality sound is about lots more than one good mic, it's about tens of thousands of pounds of audio post-production!

PS - love the logo wink
Posted: Mon, 15th Oct 2007, 8:36pm

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1) I actually thought that Michael's Telebox was a cool name. But is that for a different thing? The only name that I could think of is um, Maniac Studios?

2) As for getting an XL2. I really wouldn't just because it's such an expensive piece of equipment for someone that's only 13 years old. I'm not saying that you are too young to own one, but I believe that it's very hard for a 13 year old to come up with nearly $4000. Then if it breaks and you don't have a warranty, you're are a bit screwed. I'd recommend that if you want to get a prosumer cam, look at the Sony VX2100, Canon GL2 or the Panasonic DVX-100B

3) Sorry don't know much about mics unsure
Posted: Mon, 15th Oct 2007, 9:28pm

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thanks for the replies.

pdrg - that mic looks pretty cool but ill look around some more too i have to here the quality it can produce.

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FreshMentos - yes good point that camera is probably never reach able for my range sad. also thoose cameras you surgested i know nothing what your on about i dont even know what camera i have at the moment i just seen stuff that camera can produce and thought it looked cool. so i dont really know what those cameras are. can you send any links???

also pdrg - thanks wink the logo thing was quickly whipped up in photo shop razz it didn't even take 5 minutes i just thought ill add a picture to make the thread more exiting smile

thanks for the comments
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Posted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007, 8:40am

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Well if you don't know what the camera has and don't know anything about it, why don't you just type their names into google and find some stuff? It's not hard.

There have been a fair few topics on camera in the past few weeks and you should visit them. here are some links to the camera that FreshMentos mentioned.

The Canon GL2/XM2 very popular and many people will advise you to get that one. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/264368-GREY/Canon_XM2_GL_2E_PAL_Mini_DV.html

The Sony VX2100/VX2100e is also a very good camcorder, I have been told great things about this one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/307577-REG/Sony_DCRVX2100E_DCR_VX2100E_PAL_3_CCD.html

And the canon HV20, probably the most recommended HDV out there.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/493494-REG/Canon__HV20_2_96MP_CMOS_HDV.html

Hope it helps.
Posted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007, 10:46am

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Avoid getting a Canon GL2. Seriously. They always seem to break in one way or another a few weeks after the warranty runs out. Sometimes it's minor, but most of the time it's to do with the cassette ejection system and it simply won't let you record anything there-after. Basically, it dies.
Posted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007, 11:08am

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Sound wise the film standard microphones include the Sennheiser range, with notable microphones used being the Sennheiser MHK 416 or as pdrg says, the ME66 (with the ME67 sometimes used for long shots and the like due to its long shotgun capsule).

In the film world though, most sound is recorded for guidance knowing that the post-production process will track 80%+ of the final sound of the film. However in TV production (especially in the UK) its different. With sitcoms and the like relying heavily on actual production recordings for final delivery and mix-down. On fisher boom and boom poles I've used for televison productions, I'm only ever used a 416 P48 with the main boom op using the same set up, these would then run back to the mixer who was using an Fostex FR2 to back up to solidstate and a edition of the SQN series for mixing. Even then, its not about what equipment you've got. Its about how you use it. Boom operating is a hard skill to get right (especially in television), and an operator can be 'off sound' by centimeters, millimeters infact. Those small measurements with the angle and position of the microphones can make all the difference to the mixer.
Posted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007, 12:21pm

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Demonicy wrote:

Avoid getting a Canon GL2. Seriously. They always seem to break in one way or another a few weeks after the warranty runs out. Sometimes it's minor, but most of the time it's to do with the cassette ejection system and it simply won't let you record anything there-after. Basically, it dies.
Don't listen to that. If you get 5 year warranty, you won't really bother getting something really expensive replaced because by that time you could of saved up for a 3 times better one. Always remember to get a long-time warranty smile
Posted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007, 6:20pm

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thanks guys there was some really cool stuff. cameras are hard for me to understand really all like the technical numbers and that on the end all i really understand is how to record :p.

Updates

well here we go.

well me and somefreinds have got together and we have three cameras altogether. Yay!!! but there all give different quality footage thats the down side. mine is the only one that has an link to the computer but iff we record it through a recorable dvd player then put the disk in the computer and take the footage it should work. ill have to try and get pictures showing the different results they give out

next: over at evans digital ben also on here known as ben3308 (i think sorry if i got it wrong ben razz) has come up with some cool company names and my favorites so far are

. Flip Out Films
. Shutter Films/Productions
. Maniac Films/Productions

i like thoose ones the bes and am trying to think up some animated logos for them. so if you have any surgestens on animated logos or even company names please post them biggrin

i think thats about it for now. thanks for the replies
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Posted: Tue, 16th Oct 2007, 10:35pm

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fxmaniac wrote:


next: over at evans digital ben also on here known as ben3308 (i think sorry if i got it wrong ben razz)
Nope, it's B3N razz
Posted: Wed, 17th Oct 2007, 1:44am

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Demonicy wrote:

Avoid getting a Canon GL2. Seriously. They always seem to break in one way or another a few weeks after the warranty runs out.
That's not true. You're idiotic for not getting a warranty to begin with.

Sometimes it's minor, but most of the time it's to do with the cassette ejection system and it simply won't let you record anything there-after. Basically, it dies.
Also not true, in many ways. The issue was a problem with first and very few second generation GL2s. Canon fixed them easily, first, and second the issue no longer exists in third-generation GL2s. On the other side, the issue didn't hinder the camera completely to begin with.

I've got a GL2 and rarely, I'm saying rarely (and I heavily use my camera) get tape head problems. And when I do, a simple stop-and-rewind fixes it. Even then, I've always got the option for Canon or my MACK warranty to fix it free-of-charge. And like I'm saying, it's more of an annoyance than anything else.

And it isn't an issue in any new or within-a-year GL2s. On top of that, it's a great camera. Since you're attacking it the falsities and not looking into it, however, I'll save you the GL2-Ben/Atom-Picture/Video-UberPost. smile


As for a name, FXManiac. Your header picture for this thread should show you your talent at that and your production name: FXManiac.

Your username is easily recognizable and easy to say, plus it sounds new and cool. I'd go with FXManiacs. If not that, don't do productions, but rather, studios, entertainment, pictures, media, etc. I would.
Posted: Thu, 18th Oct 2007, 1:55am

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I tell ya I have read just about everyone's commits toward Canon equipment and I would like to offer this.

I was a Canon certified Tech for Analog and Digital Copiers for 5 years before becoming extremely board with my job. Canon prides themselves on the quality of there equipment, sometimes to the argonaut side. However I know that when a design problem is identified they are quick to get it resolved. It may take one or two and in some cases 5 revisions. It takes time for parts to fail and when a revision is made it could be for better or worse time will only tell.

You can tell this by there part numbers, for example FY1-1027-003. the last three digits of every part number is the revision.

My job now deals allot with manufacturing companies helping them to do things better. So after seeing what it takes to get a product to market I am amazed at times that there isn't more defects.

The key thing is purchase a warranty your pocket book will be slightly lighter, but I would feel allot better knowing that if it does mess up I'm covered.

Anyway I just wanted to share this with everone.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Oct 2007, 9:58pm

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UPDATES

Well ive got two results back so far on the logo thanks tyguy2021 (unfortunatly tht one isn't playing for me it only played a really quick part and im not sure why. sad) and i got a logo from someone at another forum along with a few other people who said they will try to make one. so ill have a look once ive got a couple and see which one my freinds and i like the best. thanks for that

Next: i went down my local camera shop and me my freind and the staff have been talking about films. theyv'e given us some cool advice whch we'll try. also they showed us a little thing which we can plug, the cameras that dont link to computers, into that will either put the footage onto dvd or onto the computer.

ALSO: ive been writing a few plot ideas down for short films and thats going ok. we also have quite a few good locations that weve found in the areas that we live so we can film there.

so yeah everythings going ok lately. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2007, 3:04pm

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just a quick thing ive just been told by one of my freinds. he has joined fxhome too!!!! he says hes just about to change his name so he said hed tell me once hes done. so a big welcome to FXhero1!!! hello razz
Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2007, 10:35pm

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LOGO DECIDED

thanks to you all who designed a logo for my film company. i have made a desicsion and the logo im going to be using is one made by "nooneimportant" over at indy mogul forums. heres the link to the logo with a little bit of me talking about it razz

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DbQcGpz-aV4[/u]
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 8:14am

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Camera!!!

Hey Guys
its me and ive been looking around for a while now at good cameras that are not so expensive that i could buy them, and i think i found one




The Canon HV20

it has a really good result and is just under £600, which in my opinion is great deal for money consideding the quality it turns out. it is also HD which is what ive been looking for. it runs on miniDV tapes too.but i do have a few questions about it:

Questions

    Is it able to link up to the computer?
    If you don't have a HD camera can it still work on the computer?


so yeah thats all i can think of question wise so can anyone help me out with these???

Thanks FXmaniac
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 12:17pm

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You link it up by firewire.

The other questions depends on your computer.
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 6:07pm

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thats cool i got a fire wire port, i had to use it with my other camera. thanks smile

i dunno weather my computer will work with it though

thanks again
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 6:14pm

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fxmaniac wrote:


it is also HD which is what ive been looking for. it runs on miniDV tapes too.but i do have a few questions about it:

Questions

    Is it able to link up to the computer?
    If you don't have a HD camera can it still work on the computer?

Remember it's HDV, so it's only just HD, as it were. That said, I'm sure it's a belting camera for the price (compared with £60,000 plus VAT plus lenses etc for an entry-level HDCAM!)

As for your post-production workflow, as you're trying to crunch much more data per second, you'll need a pretty modern (withing the last year or so will be fine) computer, with HDV-compatible NLE software.

And don't forget, where at all possible, try to edit/grade in uncompressed 4:4:4 space - you'll find that HDV can degrade badly if you try to grade it/lots of edits. FXHome stuff can work in 4:4:4 uncompressed space.
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 7:43pm

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my computer is made from all different parts. my brother choose and put it together because i dont know much about how computers work razz
but yeah ive had it for less than a year i think im not sure

is windows movie maker or adobe premier elements hdv compatable?
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 8:12pm

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I doubt Movie Maker is HDV capable. I'm %99 positive that it's not. I'm pretty sure Premiere Elements can handle it if it's a more recent edition. It should say on the box if it supports HD.
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 9:34pm

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Premiere Elements 3.0 and above can support HDV, just to confirm that for you, Windows Movie Maker doesn't. For more info just type "HDV" into the search box of your adobe help center for Premiere.
Posted: Thu, 8th Nov 2007, 9:49pm

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cool thanks. yeah ive got 3.0 so it should work. YAY!!!
im going to get that by my birthday next yeah. also what batteries dose it use im currently using some samsung things but i doubt that will work so what ones should i buy?
Posted: Fri, 16th Nov 2007, 8:07pm

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UPDATE

Latelys been very good for our group

we got a composer who is a grade 5 pianist which is good im told but i seen them play and there good at it.

we got hold of a recording studio for 1 hour each thursday. its a profetional one with the room with the class window so its the room with no unneeded background sound. there linked up to computers with all the softwere and middi-keyboards and all that stuff.

we got hold of a drama studio with there cameras (Maybe), there profetional lighting kit (definately) all there props (definatade) and access to all the drama stuff.

and were allowed to use a computer room loaded with great softwere.

so yeah we got quite a good lot of things going for us so i just thought ide share so were hoping to made a few good films soon smile