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How can I add a Lightsaber clash? [ANSWER]

Posted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007, 11:44am

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FXhomer46534

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I've done a lightsaber effect but in the star wars films, a flash of light appears when lightsabers clash. Anyone know how to achieve the flash on vision lab studio.

Thanks
Posted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007, 12:25pm

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NickF

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Presets, Muzzle Flash Engine or stock footage would be the way I would do it.
Posted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007, 6:05pm

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jrg2134

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Digerati Media posted a very good effect by Ryan Wieber. If you click his Stock Footage Link it will let you download it. It is very useful but if you happen to not like it what I would do is watch it frame by frame and create an effect similar to the time of the flash and how big each part of the flash is in proportion with the next frame's clash size. Sorry, if that doesn't make to much sense.

What I am trying to say.... if you watch Ryan-W's flash effect frame by frame you will see it starts of big and bright and then it rapidly dims and it only last 3 frames. You don't want to make it too quick and you don't want to make it too long.

But, overall, there are many ways to create flash effects.... just use some of the presets and fool around with it. jrg2134
Posted: Sun, 9th Dec 2007, 6:19pm

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FXhomer46534

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Thanks for the flash but I am very new to all this stuff. Could someone please post how to add the flash in Visionlab Studio. Visionlab Studio would be preffered but I wouldn't mind after effects if it can't be done in Visionlab Studio.
Posted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007, 9:33am

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JackPot

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In Vision Lab Studio, try an optics preset:

1) Click on the Engines Tab.
2) Click on the optics.
3) Click and drag the 'Lightsabre clash' on to the canvas.

Now just adjust the attributes, such as position, to suit your project.
Posted: Mon, 10th Dec 2007, 7:08pm

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Mandalorian

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You can also create your own with the optics engine and just keyframe the optics scale in the Optic Movement settings.

As for using Ryan-W's clash, just set the blending mode to 'screen' or 'add' in the objects properties. To get there, click the objects colored bar.
Posted: Tue, 11th Dec 2007, 3:42pm

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FXhomer46534

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Thanks, that worked
Posted: Sun, 20th Jan 2008, 11:16pm

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Angry Chair

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Evening, still working with the demo and am having a problem with the saber clash system. I can get the first one to work nicely but only want it to flash for one frame as the duel I'm working on is pretty fast. I've amended the duration so that it flashes for 1 frame but when I copy the previous one and paste it I find that it creates a new object on the time line and I cannot edit the object I just pasted

Is there a way I can keep it all on the same object and also edit it so I can move it around the screen to follow the saber...?

Thanks
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 7:38pm

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petet2

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In short no.

Each clash flash is a new object. However you should be able to alter the settings for the new object once pasted. Are you clicking to select the track for the new object and not the original that you copied?

Given that you only want the flash to last for one frame I'm not sure how you want it to also follow the action? Not that if you are using interlaced footage then you need the flash to last for two frames (once for each field).
Posted: Thu, 24th Jan 2008, 12:06am

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Mandalorian

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If you want it all on one object, set the transparency to 100 or whatever you think looks good on the frame before and after the frame where you want the clash. Then on the frame between those two (the frame you want it on) then set the transparency to 0. This means that for every clash, you will have 3 keyframes. A 0 transparency keyframe before, a 100 (or another value greater than 0) on the right frame, and another 0 after. I hope this makes sense.
Posted: Thu, 24th Jan 2008, 2:17pm

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Angry Chair

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Many thanks for the replies. I ended up creating a new effect for each clash so that I could control the size of it and the dynamics of it.

Here's the finished work. A little rough round the edges but overal I've been amazed with the power of the Vision Lab product and the ease of use....!

Thanks again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7xU863wLQ4