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The Dark Wars ep I

Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 10:53am

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The very first attempt to use Alam DV...and it was very successful at that!!
An attempt to pay homage to many a great Jedi before us!
This movie has been temporarly removed
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 12:22pm

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Nothing personal;

I know you said this is your first attempt, but another lightsaber fight !!, this can be added to load that is already here under the name " this is my first test and it had to be done with a lightsabre "

Not to worry though, this should get voted highly.

You could have talent, try something different on your next film. lol
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 12:45pm

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I think the light saber and the lightning was very welldone. biggrin Good job!

Fortunately I'm on a high speed internet access, for those here who aren't, leave the big intro and 3d finale, it just make a bigger file (8Mb in you case). If it was a full movie I wouldn't mind but since it's a test...

What do you think?
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 1:08pm

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smile Great lightsabre test. wonderful use of the universal leader, alothough i don't think that it should have been uploaded personally. Not, however, the most appealing company noise, (no offence, i thought that my machine had messed up the file.) redface
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 2:48pm

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Just wondering, what camera did you use?

Adam.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 2:58pm

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I'd say it was a GL1. smile Next time, when you upload a 45 second movie to the cinema, don't leave in the 25 seconds of countdown and color bars wink The camear work was great though, although more views during the fight would of made it look ALOT better. I really loved the charging up effect before the force lighting. Good job biggrin
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 8:55pm

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I think you should work on your cameratechniques... The angles were pretty boring and to far away, especially for what you wanted to be an action-scene.

Theere was one thing with the effects too:
In the scene, we're they hold theyr swords against each other, the sky takes away the lightsword effect (because the brightness of the sky is at full scale and so you can't even see the lightsword)


And what kind of compression did you use? 8 megabytes for 45 seconds? Phew.... Lucky I've got cable and download every alam movie anyway... :)
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 9:57pm

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Same here.. i have Cable too cool

I tottaly agree with Sollthar on this one. But i understand that you guys are "getting in" too movies. Many people just make movies for fun.. and show it for friends etc etc...
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 10:08pm

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adamlightandmagic

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I'm interested in either renting or purchasing this camera. I'm curious to find out if you used the so-called "film" mode on the GL1 camera for your little film. Did you? If you did, I'd be disappointed, cause I don't think it looks that different from normal video. Anyway, get back to me on that.

Thanks,
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Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:04pm

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Hajiku_Flip

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I think you mean 'frame' mode, which is not good if your planning to shoot regular videos. With movie mode, if you were to shoot, say, a skateboarder jumping down a flight of stairs. If you tried to stop it frame by frame in mid air, things would be blurry and you wouldn't get a clear picture. Frame mode takes individual pictures for frames, so each little frame is a perfect picture. But when you play it back, it looks really choppy, and isn't intended for normal use.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:11pm

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no offence, but i think the number countdown was the best bit smile, i guess i have seen FAR too many lightsaber duels, although the force lightening did also look cool...

the thing is, the lightsaber duel, consisted of a few hits, which were all the same, no variation, and too much backing light, which made it hard to see the sabers...

good for a test though, but enxt time, do it in a darker area, with a few more, and better camera angles, and don't include the silly countdown razz
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:13pm

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adamlightandmagic

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Yes, Hajiku, that's what I was reffering to. Do you have personal experience with this camera? Just because your answer does seem a little harsh.
The GL1 has a frame movie mode and it looks good in photos I've seen. But I've never seen it in action. The whole point of this mode is to give the impression of film on a video camera. I know it about the frames thing. Why do you think it's called "frame movie mode"? rolleyes

Adam.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:24pm

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Hajiku_Flip

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Yes, I own the camera. The point of frame mode ISN'T to give the impression of film, it's to take perfect quality frames, like I said. You said yourself you have never seen it in action, so your making some pretty bold statements. And it's not really called 'frame movie mode', it's under movie setttings, either frame or normal. And as i said, it's choppy, and wouldn't be acceptable to film your movie in. rolleyes

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Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:40pm

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Ok, I'm feeling misled by the Canon site now. They've got this thing up saying, "cinema-like Frame Movie Mode ".

I'm going to ask a pretty big favour here. Could you show me by uploading a couple of movies to show what the camera looks like with and without the frame movie mode? If it's cack, I'll be a bit disappointed, considering the stuff I'd seen from the XL1 model. I mean, cause it has the same feature. sad

Thanks,
Adam.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:48pm

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I don't understand why you would be disappoinited... your just misinformed. Let me repeat, your not supposed to watch frame mode like a regular movie. It's not worth uploading to the cinema, but if I get the ambition I might upload it to a personal site. But that's only if I get the ambition. wink And if you really wanted to film in "Frame" mode, you could play with the FPS settings, and make it look a-okay. But even then, it'd look identical to Movie mode. So why not just film in movie mode? Anyhow, let's give the guy his topic back smile

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Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:51pm

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adamlightandmagic

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Cool. If you do get the ambition, that'd be very cool of you. Btw, didn't mean uploading to the alamdv cinema. smile Some ftp somewhere.

Thanks,
Adam.
Posted: Thu, 27th Jun 2002, 11:56pm

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If you film in normal mode and convert this to full-frames (for example "deinterlace" in Premiere), you'll get almost the same result.

The frame-mode just doesn't use half-frames, but fullframes....
a "normal" film/video second is made of 24 frames wich are made of two halfframes...
And besides, the "frame mode" ist not the same as the XL-1a "progressive mode" cause progressive has higher quality than frame... (I know because I own several cameras wich have both features)
Posted: Fri, 28th Jun 2002, 11:45am

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Qixotl

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Not exactly, Sollthar:
A normal film second is 24 full celluloid frames.
A normal NTSC second is 60 fields (half-frames).
A normal PAL second is 50 fields.

De-interlacing re-combines the fields into frames - 30 for NTSC or 25 for PAL, but the quality depends on the software. The quick and dirty method is to take one field and copy each missing line from the line above, giving you a frame with poor resolution. Flash programs do lots of funky processing to give better results, and can convert 60 fields directly to 24 frames (eg: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm ).

I don't own a GL1 but surely you can adjust the exposure to get motion-blur in frame mode instead of crisp frames? Probably better to do it in NLE anyway, because I *think* both the GL1 and XL1's frame modes interpolate the missing field in-camera to get a full frame. HTH...
Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2002, 2:29pm

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Sollthar

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Ah, right... Converted wrong... ( I tried to convert in NTSC, but I use only PAL)... Thanks for correcting! :)
Posted: Fri, 30th Aug 2002, 1:25am

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Ricpride

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What a laugh and a half. lol

One of the most horrible attempt at a star wars light saber battle. oink

Sheesh!