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Shooting with the RED camera system- stills online

Posted: Thu, 20th Dec 2007, 5:21pm

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Bryan M Block

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Hello all,

The most recent project I’ve been involved in that I thought you might find interesting because of the use of the ‘RED’ Camera system. My good friend Ben Bays has been working on this film “The Horseman” which takes place in 1790. It took nearly two years of planning and two weeks of shooting in Ohio, Tennessee, Illinois, and Indiana. My part in the whole thing was pretty minor- I set up some castings for local extras and helped with a bit of organization and I gave him my input on first draft script last year- Ben then usually casts me as some bad-guy or extra in his films (2005’s Truck Driver), and this one was no exception. I ended up being in a fight at a tavern with the lead / hero. (can’t someone cast me in a nice, safe romantic comedy that doesn’t end up with me having bruises on my ribs at the end of the day? wink )

Anyway, I played my scenes with TV actor David Meunier, who has done lots of shows including CBS's Jericho, and others - he also been in "Pirates of the Caribbean" as a featured extra (see his page at IMDB in costume)

Yes, I held the RED camera- it’s HEAVY.



Anyway- the lead actors are David Meunier is an actor with lots of TV credits, he was on the CBS show ‘Jericho’ and had lots of walk on parts over the years, and Melinda Page Hamilton who has also done lots of TV including CSI and Desperate Housewives.



Ben has just released some stills from the shoot which wrapped last week. These are unprocessed frames directly from the RED camera.





http://www.room101productions.com/horseman.htm

> Just click on the still you want to see.



Enjoy the stills – I’ll send more along if I get them-

Merry Christmas



pax

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Posted: Thu, 20th Dec 2007, 8:09pm

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Oh my God. That looks absolutely brilliant visually. RED is the future of independent filmmaking. Film schools should really have a bunch of these, and they need to start making them more available. Holy God.
Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2007, 4:20pm

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looks beautiful. Congrats to the film makers, crew and actors. 2 years to plan, wow!
Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2007, 6:30pm

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They look good - but they've clearly shrunk down a lot from the original 4k image (unless I'm missing something?) - are there any 4k raw images to have a look at?

Nicely lit and graded too smile
Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2007, 8:35pm

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pdrg wrote:

They look good - but they've clearly shrunk down a lot from the original 4k image (unless I'm missing something?) - are there any 4k raw images to have a look at?

Nicely lit and graded too smile
No-
no 4K images, and there is no post-grading on these frames these are right out of the camera.
Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2007, 9:23pm

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Bryan M Block wrote:


No-
no 4K images, and there is no post-grading on these frames these are right out of the camera.
Very nice! If those are raw off-sensor images (just resized), I'd be interested to see a couple of the untouched TIFF's for sharpness, sensor pixel drop-out, etc
Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2007, 9:27pm

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Bryan M Block wrote:


No-
no 4K images, and there is no post-grading on these frames these are right out of the camera.
stun
Does the RED ONE have WatchingPaintDry Lab installed on it? wink
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 5:25am

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FreshMentos wrote:

Bryan M Block wrote:


No-
no 4K images, and there is no post-grading on these frames these are right out of the camera.
stun
Does the RED ONE have WatchingPaintDry Lab installed on it? wink
unsure Is that some kind of grading thing I'm not aware of?
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 5:52am

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Rating: +1/-1

Bryan M Block wrote:

unsure Is that some kind of grading thing I'm not aware of?
Oh my... do you honestly intend to say... that you don't know about it? razz

Look it up in the forums.
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 5:07pm

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Bryan M Block wrote:

unsure Is that some kind of grading thing I'm not aware of?
It was a joke that the RED ONE does all of your post production work for you. If you want to know more about it, try searching the product discussion boards.

Santa Clause might bring me a copy of WatchingPaintDry Lab this Christmas cool





Why the heck did King of Blades get a -1 for that post?
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 6:17pm

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FreshMentos wrote:

Why the heck did King of Blades get a -1 for that post?
Because negative ratings are rigged and can't take a joke to save their lives, didn't you know? smile
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 8:46pm

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Atom wrote:

FreshMentos wrote:

Why the heck did King of Blades get a -1 for that post?
Because negative ratings are rigged and can't take a joke to save their lives, didn't you know? smile
Atom has had bad experiences with the rating system wink
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 9:51pm

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Jabooza wrote:

Atom wrote:

FreshMentos wrote:

Why the heck did King of Blades get a -1 for that post?
Because negative ratings are rigged and can't take a joke to save their lives, didn't you know? smile
Atom has had bad experiences with the rating system wink
Why is everybody writing so small?
Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2007, 10:22pm

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This topic is getting hard to read.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2007, 2:33am

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FreshMentos wrote:

Bryan M Block wrote:

unsure Is that some kind of grading thing I'm not aware of?
It was a joke that the RED ONE does all of your post production work for you. If you want to know more about it, try searching the product discussion boards.

Santa Clause might bring me a copy of WatchingPaintDry Lab this Christmas cool





Why the heck did King of Blades get a -1 for that post?
Found it-
and just for the record, I did not rate the post down, that was someone else- I didn't find the post to be negative at all...

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Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2007, 3:05am

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WHOO RED CAMERAS ROCK

sorry had to break up the small text.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2007, 5:01am

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No problem, just don't deviate again.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2007, 5:04am

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Like I said very,very, very sorry.
Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2007, 5:07am

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You wish you could say "sorry" efficiently in this small of text.
Posted: Tue, 25th Dec 2007, 8:16pm

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Well, that didn't get silly at all.

Back to topic, thanks for posting this. Impressive stills. I'm assuming this is all with pro lighting etc, not natural lighting? The exterior shots look as if they are lit too with reflectors etc.

I've been following the progress of Red with keen interest ever since it was announced, and am more interested since some features are being shot with it. Do you know what the practicalities of editing the footage is/workflow? What editing systems are being used by your friend, and how much space do they have?

Anyway, thanks again for posting, and Happy Christmas.
Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2007, 3:53pm

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Hello All-
Just an update-
I was wrong about the stills on the website being ungraded- Ben DID do a "slight color tweak" to those before posting them. Originally I was told "those are right out of the camera" which I think he meant he just pulled some frames from the media cards. I apologize for the mis-information. On another note, for those that wanted to see the 4K frames without color tweaking (Pdrg I'm looking at you) - Ben has posted some in the RED camera user forum:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6897&highlight=horseman

Although, he warns me that these are STILL compressed into JPEG's for posting and have a few pixel things here and there.

More later-
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Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2007, 4:06pm

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Cheers Bryan - lookin right back atcha wink

Looking good - quite dark images, so I guess it's not really showing off it's dynamic range yet! But where you can see detail, there's certainly good texture in there smile
Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008, 4:59pm

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Yes, Ben is having a hard time figuring out his post workflow. Final Cut Pro is really his only prctical option, however there is a system called "Scratch" that is made specifically for posting RED footage- unfortuantely it's completely proprietary-fortunately somene in California contacted Ben about postingon his Scratch system,- which uses the native files- so Ben may fly out to post in Cali.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2008, 8:41pm

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I'd have thought he'd offline in DV/digibeta (in FCP) then conform/online with Scratch or Quantel EQ - doing the whole edit on an onlining system is hellish expensive (Soho prices it's about £450/hr or US$1 every 4 seconds!)

Is he really going to offline on an onlining system, or have I misunderstood?!!