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Golden Globe Ceremony Cancelled

Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 11:03am

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when will it end?

As many had predicted, the Golden Globe awards have fallen foul of the ongoing writers strike. The 65th Golden Globe ceremony will now not happen in its usual starry, schmoozy, sycophantic way. Instead the 25 awards will be announced via press conference on January 13.

"We are all very disappointed that our traditional awards ceremony will not take place this year and that millions of viewers worldwide will be deprived of seeing many of their favorite stars celebrating 2007's outstanding achievements in motion pictures and television," Jorge Camara, President of The Hollywood Foreign Press Association, said in a statement. "We take some comfort, however, in knowing that this year's Golden Globe Award recipients will be announced on the date originally scheduled."...
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I would honestly rather watch it that way. Award shows go on too long and are too lame.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 11:13am

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lol, i wonder if they do the 'pause for tension' in the press conference...
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 12:48pm

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I may be being utterly dumb here but why is the writers strike halting this ceremony. From what I've ever watched, any idiot could write the crap they read off at these things.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 1:00pm

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Well, the actors aren't going to the ceremony in support of the WGA.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 2:21pm

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Ooooh, still that makes no sense at all (in jest). If they support the writers in getting paid more then why don't they donate $1,000,000 out of their $20,000,000+ pay check per film to the writers themselves.

Things that happen in America really confuse me sometimes.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 2:29pm

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yeah theres quite a few actors involved and with the anticipated Screen Actors Guild strike in June I'm not surprised as they will be looking for support.

NuttyBanana wrote:

Ooooh, still that makes no sense at all (in jest). If they support the writers in getting paid more then why don't they donate $1,000,000 out of their $20,000,000+ pay check per film to the writers themselves.

Things that happen in America really confuse me sometimes.
We cant really take it out on the actors seeing as its the studios who broke the deals made with the WGA and who take the majority of the profits, a lot more then they need to cover any flops and fund new films.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 6:30pm

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I was actually looking forward to the GG this year. So yeah I feel bad for those first time nominees. That blows.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 7:26pm

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NuttyBanana wrote:

Ooooh, still that makes no sense at all (in jest). If they support the writers in getting paid more then why don't they donate $1,000,000 out of their $20,000,000+ pay check per film to the writers themselves.

Things that happen in America really confuse me sometimes.
A lot of people are helping support the writers when they are out of work. Jon Stewart, for example. But if the writers worked then got additional donations, their problem wouldn't be solved in the long run. And there are SO MANY MORE WRITERS than $20,000,000 A list actors. If all the A list actors donated that much money (which is a sh*t ton), their still wouldn't be enough to cover all the internet earnings for all of the writers that they are currently demanding.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 7:29pm

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Bloody ridiculous, solidarity to the strike or not. Really.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 8:15pm

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Hmm, while I'm glad to say good riddance to the GG, I have to say that this may have been a mistake on the WGA's part.

If they had negotiated a contract to allow the GG and hopefully the AA to continue, then the writers could have taken that opportunity to advocate their cause in the biggest way possible. The producers of the awards shows NEED them... that's obvious enough, so they could write in TONS of pro-WGA stuff. Now I'm afraid ordinary people who know nothing of the strike will simply hate the writers just because the GG or possibly AA are cancelled.

I could, of course, be entirely wrong, but I fear it might happen. Other than that, it certainly shows how necessary writers are to Hollywood (They've already cost the whole damn town more than half a billion dollars... in just 2 1/2 months.

GO WRITERS! razz

And if you want to help their cause, DON'T watch any of the bullcrap that has been put on TV since then (American Gladiators, I'm looking your way)... as it'll just show the studios that writers aren't needed, and we won't get any more scripted TV for an even LONGER time.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 8:32pm

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While the GG could have served as a possible loudspeaker for writers, it's not a big enough deal for them to completely put their strike on hiatus... if that's even possible... I believe the cancellation is actually a greater victory for them because it continues to hinder production companies. NBC is now going to lose out on an event that would at least boost ratings and plumpen its coffers. Think of how detrimental a canceled Academy Awards would be. Nonetheless, I did hear that there will be an AA this year, even if the strike continues until then, but I doubt many actors will want to cross the picketing writers in order to get their award -- you never know, though.
Posted: Tue, 8th Jan 2008, 8:34pm

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Yes, the Golden Globes are less important, I agree, so it makes me wonder what will become of the AA. Half of me wants the strike to end it, and the other half wants them to use it as a pro-WGA platform. Time shall tell I suppose.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 3:55am

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SteveW wrote:

when will it end?

Soon son. Really soon.

As many had predicted, the Golden Globe awards have fallen foul of the ongoing writers strike. The 65th Golden Globe ceremony will now not happen in its usual starry, schmoozy, sycophantic way. Instead the 25 awards will be announced via press conference on January 13.

"We are all very disappointed that our traditional awards ceremony will not take place this year and that millions of viewers worldwide will be deprived of seeing many of their favorite stars celebrating 2007's outstanding achievements in motion pictures and television," Jorge Camara, President of The Hollywood Foreign Press Association, said in a statement. "We take some comfort, however, in knowing that this year's Golden Globe Award recipients will be announced on the date originally scheduled."...
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Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 4:13am

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Not sure why this was bumped, but I missed this the first time:

Evman wrote:

And if you want to help their cause, DON'T watch any of the bullcrap that has been put on TV since then (American Gladiators, I'm looking your way)... as it'll just show the studios that writers aren't needed, and we won't get any more scripted TV for an even LONGER time.
If you watch a show like American Gladiators, unless your family is part of the Nielsen Ratings (voluntary, and only available in certain places), it will not affect the success of the show. If those people watch it, ratings will go up. If you give in to advertising and buy everything on the commercials, and the companies advertising notice improvement, that will also support the crap shows. But if you watch a show that replaces real television and don't go out of your way to support the advertisers, everything will be fine and you won't statistically be supporting the crap.

However, I don't know why anyone would watch that stuff.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 4:41am

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Serpent wrote:



If you watch a show like American Gladiators, unless your family is part of the Nielsen Ratings (voluntary, and only available in certain places), it will not affect the success of the show. If those people watch it, ratings will go up. If you give in to advertising and buy everything on the commercials, and the companies advertising notice improvement, that will also support the crap shows. But if you watch a show that replaces real television and don't go out of your way to support the advertisers, everything will be fine and you won't statistically be supporting the crap.

However, I don't know why anyone would watch that stuff.
I know it doesn't matter. I'm just standing on principle dammit! razz Also, I'm telling everyone else to stop watching it as well, hoping that the negative vibes will eventually trickle into people who are part of the ratings. Won't work I know, but it just makes me feel better! smile
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 4:58am

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I'm sorry Evman, but I find your 'Debbie Downer' mentality on this whole thing......kind of sad. I'm not pushing to keep the writers down any more, but let's give TV a fair shot. I quite like the new Terminator series (well, held until now for reserves) FOX is doing and don't mind crazy versions of 'Deal or No Deal'. Don't push every other group in the TV industry still working on this crap out of a job just for your precious writers.

It's not fair to anyone else. If the Academy Awards are cancelled or even if they're turned into a WGA platform, I swear I flip something totally flippable. None of this is meant to be this way, and it's increasingly more irritating. Neither side is being just or reasonable, I'll admit it. For how greedy or rich you may call the producers, a good person would try to find a deal and end this, not hold out for whatever they can get. Shame on both sides. At least the producers are trying to make it work. (Even if only a very minuscule amount)

Again, I'll say it like my newspaper and Entertainment Weekly have now said. They've turned on the writers, soon everyone but die-hard supporters will. And soon out-of-college aspiring writers will find freelance work. A lot of it.

But again, that's just my spill on the whole situation.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 5:28am

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Evman wrote:

Serpent wrote:



If you watch a show like American Gladiators, unless your family is part of the Nielsen Ratings (voluntary, and only available in certain places), it will not affect the success of the show. If those people watch it, ratings will go up. If you give in to advertising and buy everything on the commercials, and the companies advertising notice improvement, that will also support the crap shows. But if you watch a show that replaces real television and don't go out of your way to support the advertisers, everything will be fine and you won't statistically be supporting the crap.

However, I don't know why anyone would watch that stuff.
I know it doesn't matter. I'm just standing on principle dammit! razz Also, I'm telling everyone else to stop watching it as well, hoping that the negative vibes will eventually trickle into people who are part of the ratings. Won't work I know, but it just makes me feel better! smile
Hey Evman dont worry, Im part of the Nielsen/Arbitron rating system and I dont watch American gladiators at all. Not even the Premier.

And Atom, the Nielson/Arbitron Rating participants are not volunteers, we get paid monthly and yearly. No Joke.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 7:01am

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How much do you get paid to selectively watch whatever you want? smile Surely they can't pay you to watch certain shows, that'd invalidate the polls.

I caught some of American Gladiators. A lot of '90s testosterone and lighthearted fun, actually. I don't mind it at all. And frankly, the way Heroes was going anyway, American Gladiators might very well be superior entertainment. smile
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 7:22am

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I dont get paid too much and yes I can watch whatever I want. I wear a small thing called a Portable People Meter or PPM

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/09/arbitrons-portable-people-meter-bags-fcc-approval/

(Note: the amount of money you can earn/win and some of the rules have changed since this above article was written)

and it records all the tv shows I watch and what radio stations I listen to. I get paid up to $40 a month depending on how much I wear it. It uses a motion sensor so it can tell when Im wearing it or not. I also get a $100 bonus every 3 months and they hold drawings or raffles each month for those people in the program who obtain 600 Points a week ( 6 points for every 10 minutes I wear it). The drawings are for $500 and there are 3 winners a week. Unfortunantly I havent won...yet.
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Its free money In my opinion.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 8:28pm

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I watched the new Terminator series and I quite like it. I plan on watching it weekly... I don't really know what that has to do with what I said before...

So what if I plan on not watching any of the crappy reality shows? Atom, you can watch them all you want. I'm not, and I'm gonna be verbal about it. What the hell difference does it make? None apparently. It's a personal thing. I love scripted TV, I want the writers back, I want them to be happy, so I refuse to watch crap. I don't see why you seem to be taking personal offense to my personal tastes/beliefs. I'd find that mentality about this whole thing more sad, personally.

Get over yourself.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 4:36am

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How do you get started with the Nielsen rating system thing? Sounds like free money to me, and I could use that next year. smile I haven't looked much into it.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 5:50am

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Serpent wrote:

How do you get started with the Nielsen rating system thing? Sounds like free money to me, and I could use that next year. smile I haven't looked much into it.
My whole family wheres the PPM's and we were picked from a survey my dad entered 6 months ago. So Im not sure how you or anyone can get into the Arbitron rating Panel.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 6:20am

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Evman wrote:

So what if I plan on not watching any of the crappy reality shows? Atom, you can watch them all you want.

Evman wrote:

I know it doesn't matter. I'm just standing on principle dammit! razz Also, I'm telling everyone else to stop watching it
Just though I'd clarify, I was referring to your statements not only about it being crappy TV (which the bulk of it is, won't argue that) but urging everyone not to also.

Lost begins in two weeks. Too bad it's been like a year and people have generally lost interest in being baited and then led on for so long. Shame, really. I hate that Lost and Heroes really both lost their momentum. But hey, I guess I should be looking at the writers for that one. razz
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 8:15pm

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I'm telling my Hollwood-dumb friends who don't know any better. They don't have to listen to me. They rarely do anyway, so what difference does it make? I can say whatever I want, after all.

Never really got into Lost or Heroes at all, so I can't comment on them really. I only watch a few shows regularly, House, Smallville, 30 Rock, Scubs, The Office, etc. I'm really beginning to feel the hurt of no TV though, as my class load is lightening up considerably in a week, and I'm in already in college, so senioritis is already hitting me HARD. Needless to say, I have a lot of free time on my hands now-a-days! razz

At least Mythbusters is still on! biggrin (At least I hope it'll remain on... I dunno if the narration qualifies as writing.)
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 8:19pm

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Evman wrote:

I only watch a few shows regularly, House, Smallville, 30 Rock, Scubs, The Office, etc.
Heh. We have the exact same show lineup of tastes. Don't tell me you're a fan of Entourage too, because that'd be scarily similar. smile

Shame this is the last season of Scrubs. I saw it coming, the same ratings fall even with increasingly better episodes the way Arrested Development did. But like AD, I think the actors are okay with it. I just hope they don't count 5 or so episodes as the last season.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 8:22pm

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Atom wrote:

Evman wrote:

I only watch a few shows regularly, House, Smallville, 30 Rock, Scubs, The Office, etc.
Heh. We have the exact same show lineup of tastes. Don't tell me you're a fan of Entourage too, because that'd be scarily similar. smile

Shame this is the last season of Scrubs. I saw it coming, the same ratings fall even with increasingly better episodes the way Arrested Development did. But like AD, I think the actors are okay with it. I just hope they don't count 5 or so episodes as the last season.
Never actually watched Entourage. I've been told I should but I never got around to it. It really sucks about Scrubs though... we can only hope to see a straight-to-DVD finale once the strike is over.

My favorite show, no doubt, though is House. Theres only 3 episodes left this season I believe. One the week before the Superbowl, one directly following the Superbowl, and one the night after, if I remember correctly. Shame though, with the new team finally selected and all, we won't get to see them in true action for quite some time.
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I don't watch TV. Unless a good movie comes on. Most of the shows and crap I've seen were pretty much... crap.
Posted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008, 11:16pm

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Mequellios wrote:

I don't watch TV. Unless a good movie comes on. Most of the shows and crap I've seen were pretty much... crap.
There are plenty of great shows out there, you just have to know where to look. I'll Paypal you $10 if you don't like Firefly.
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I'll gladly take that $10. I surprisingly don't like Firefly.
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Atom wrote:

I'll gladly take that $10. I surprisingly don't like Firefly.
That wasn't the offer.
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I'm making the deals now. That remark'll cost you another $5 PayPal.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 8:07am

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Firefly rules. No doubt the best TV show ever to see the light of day.

Just wanted to throw that in. Carry on now.