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"The Asset/Expendable" production thread

Would you watch this movie?

Yes because it looks/sound like the most amazing thing evaa!!!!!33%[ 4 ]
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Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 12:13am

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Ok The script was finished 6 months ago after going through 4 drafts, and planning and getting equipment took about 1 month and on January 12 production started shooting scene 9.

(I have no way of showing screen shots right now, read my thread in general chat and you'll know why)

Story:

David Layne is a government Recon Assassin who's been on a mission in Europe for the last couple of months. When he gets back to the U.S. he's welcomed by the CIA knocking on his door. He's been framed for the Assassination of U.S. senetor Robert Cooper, who was also in Europe on vacation with his family. Now David must flee from government while trying to prove his innocents by finding the man or men that framed him.

*Just a quick note, this movie will not be fx heavy at ALL it will be mostly diologe and character driven, fx only come in when its a must*
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Camera:
Canon HV20 on manual settings

Audio:
Rode NTG-2

Editing:
Vegas 6 or 7

FX:
Adobe After Effects (no offense) smile
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*Were stuck between two titles now "The Asset" and "Expendable" we like bothe titles equaly so if you could just say which title you prefer.*
More info to come...

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Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 1:17am

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Sounds cools. I'll give a better comment when I see more.
It's cool that you're using the HV20 cause I'm highly interested in it right now. One question, what would be the best tape format to use for it?
Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 1:45am

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RodyPolis wrote:

One question, what would be the best tape format to use for it?
I'm not sure what your talking about but if your talking about brand then Panasonic if your talking about hd tapes and regular tapes, I just use regular tapes and it looks great.

Oh and I'll just post here about your gl1 or hv20, with a gl1 your going to have to buy it second hand, probably not the best idea... just my thought
Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 4:44am

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It's cool that you've put that much work into your project and pursued it for so long, but from this post I can't say I'm too excited about it. Honestly, from what you've written, the plot seems quite cliché, and borrows substantial plot elements from The Bourne Identity series and Shooter. But hopefully you're differentiating your movie from those others, e.g. using a different feel, or different character types. And since you've advertised some high production values, I'd like to see some examples. So good luck.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 5:28am

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Rebourne wrote:


I'm just going to tell you right now The production value is super high, after review some of the footage I was even surprised at how good it looked (not resolution) but production value.


*sorry about some spelling my sisters pc doesnt tell me if I spelled something wrong sooooo*
Point #1:

If you're shooting on an HD enabled camera, it's probably not a bad idea to take advantage of that capability...

Point #2:

It's probably a good idea to know how to spell, since you're a high school student and all...
Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 5:49am

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Im just going to be honest with you because I know thats what you want, Honesty.

First off Im glad that you are spending so much time on your script, most people dont know the importance of the story when it comes to filmmaking.

But unfortunantly your story is a big rip off of shooter. Im not trying to put you down but next time you spend that much time writing a story make sure its original. When people watch your movie they will be thinking of shooter and not what a great movie it is.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jan 2008, 10:51pm

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[quote="ops101ex"]Honestly, from what you've written, the plot seems quite cliché, and borrows substantial plot elements from The Bourne Identity series and Shooter.[\quote]

But unfortunantly your story is a big rip off of shooter
Heh, I knew I would get this

Trust me I've seen all four movies the Bourne series are my favorite movies of all time, so I guess it was just instinct to do something with a similer story, and I've seen shooter which I honestly thought sucked.

When I first told my friend the plot he said he wouldnt do it because it was a rip off of ""

I told him to give me a chance with it I wrote a 5 page outline and we ran with it, because after seeing what happens in the movie its really nothing like them. I did the same thing to several of my other friends and a few members on here.

I know the words "Trust me" dont mean anything anymore, and I honestly dont care if you believe me or not, but its nothing like shooter and/or Bourne.

bryce wrote:

Point #1:

If you're shooting on an HD enabled camera, it's probably not a bad idea to take advantage of that capability...

Point #2:

It's probably a good idea to know how to spell, since you're a high school student and all...
Heh I laughed when I saw this post.

Reply #1:

I'm not an idiot we obviously shot it in HD, the reason I wasn't surprised by the quality was because... well I already knew it was great.

Reply #2:

I'm a sophomore, I take 12th grade English courses, I know how to spell but I'm not going to dictionary.com every word I'm not fully sure about...
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 5:02pm

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I read the script and it isn't a ripoff of Bourne or Shooter. It pays homage at points but nothing more really.
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 10:43pm

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I've read the script to, so before you put it down and label it as a "rip-off," you would have needed to read it first. It may resemble it, but it definitely does not rip either of those movies off by far, it is still very unique all its own
Posted: Thu, 17th Jan 2008, 10:56pm

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Is it one of those films where this assassin and the Senator is 15 years old or does it have an according casting? Would be a shame if the script is as good as you say.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 12:20am

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Sollthar wrote:

Is it one of those films where this assassin and the Senator is 15 years old or does it have an according casting? Would be a shame if the script is as good as you say.
Well you never see the senator so that doesnt really matter, but I'd like to ask you when you were 15-16 did you have 25-30 year old actors?... I'm going to work with what I got...

Oh and thanks for the sarcasm I really appreciate it
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 12:36am

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Sollthar wrote:

Is it one of those films where this assassin and the Senator is 15 years old or does it have an according casting? Would be a shame if the script is as good as you say.
Wow Sollthar, whats with the sudden attack on it? I would expect that you of all veterans here on Fxhome would understand that, man where is FxHome headed these days?
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 12:58am

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This tag team tops the notorious Adam Bros in both hilarity and ridiculousness. smile

Make your movie. Stray away from hype. And Sollthar is ye padre.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 1:10am

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Klausky wrote:

This tag team tops the notorious Adam Bros in both hilarity and ridiculousness. smile

Make your movie. Stray away from hype. And Sollthar is ye padre.
Way to insult me.... seargent's made one post I wouldnt call that a tag team.

And I wouldnt call it hype, after looking at a majority of the post

I'm sorry if I sound pissed off, but right now I really am...

p.s.: "ridiculousness" I'd really love to know what your talking about, if your talking about seargent's post then fine but I've said nothing "ridiculous"
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 1:42am

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I really do not understand why people post threads like this. I understand you are excited about your project, but there is absolutely no need to post here, telling everyone that you finished shooting scene 9 and are editing on Vegas 6 or 7. If your original post isn't considered "hype," then I think I'd define it as superfluity. I compared you and your cronies to the Adam Bros because they seem to always post threads along the same lines as this (except theirs are usually filled with quality graphics and a mark of professionalism).

To top it all off, when people try to warn you about your potentially cliche idea, you immediately disregard them. If you are already deep into production, and obviously extremely passionate about your script, whats the point of posting this thread? I doubt you are willing to change anything. It doesn't seem like you have any questions.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 1:45am

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Rebourne wrote:

if your talking about seargent's post then fine
Hey wait a second...
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 1:59am

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Klausky wrote:

I really do not understand why people post threads like this. I understand you are excited about your project, but there is absolutely no need to post here, telling everyone that you finished shooting scene 9 and are editing on Vegas 6 or 7. If your original post isn't considered "hype," then I think I'd define it as superfluity. I compared you and your cronies to the Adam Bros because they seem to always post threads along the same lines as this (except theirs are usually filled with quality graphics and a mark of professionalism).

To top it all off, when people try to warn you about your potentially cliche idea, you immediately disregard them. If you are already deep into production, and obviously extremely passionate about your script, whats the point of posting this thread? I doubt you are willing to change anything. It doesn't seem like you have any questions.
Ok whatever I've stated that I'm out of a pc and cant post screens or video and I'm using my sisters pc and she wont let me install photoshop onto it so whatever, I didnt disregard, yes I know the plot sounds cliche, but the script isnt.

I was going to post the scene I just shot but my pc crashed.

You guys really dont wanna give me any slack do ya...
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 2:10am

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Klausky wrote:

you and your cronies
Wow, it really hurts my feelings to be called a cronie by a guy in a ten gallon hat
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 2:12am

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I officially disown you as a cronie smile
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 2:13am

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Rebourne wrote:

I officially disown you as a cronie smile
Do I still get my minimum wage though?
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 5:45am

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You guys are now officially the most ridiculous Tag Team on here. I told you what I thought on your idea and so did everyone else and if you dont like our opinions why did you even make this thread.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 6:57am

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Rebourne wrote:

Klausky wrote:

This tag team tops the notorious Adam Bros in both hilarity and ridiculousness. smile
Way to insult me....
I'd think it would be a compliment. smile I'd never put "we finished Scene...", I'd put something about the scene or something Klausky, you know that! smile Nobody cares if they don't know what the scene is anyway. Scene 10, etc. means nothing. But I wouldn't say this thread doesn't. Ashman, er-no, Sollthar, and myself are all people who have made threads like this. Granted, with a tad more content. But I'm all for this kinda stuff as long as you follow through.

As for the comments on ages, don't worry about it. We used adults for our Splinter Cell movie. Only Fisher himself was young and he was supposed to be 18 in my script at that. And we got flak aplenty for that, and you just have to accept it. If you don't care what age your actors are, why fret over it?

Work with what you got but don't make excuses and don't be afraid to be bold. That's one thing I'm learning from producing. It's a lot of bold behavior and calling and not being afraid to ask that gets you what you need. Hell, I'm in highschool and I've been surprised with what I'm able to get with proper presentation of a project. Take MSB for example: Several secured locations and set times to film while they are closed, a 50-year old woman to play a role, a 30-something to play a priest, a 30-something to play a manager. A gang of people to find to play.......a gang. It's not easy, but it pays off.

Use your front-runners in front-runner roles. You may notice I always use the same main guys, and don't worry about their ages in those roles. Again, if it works for you work it. But try, as best you can, not to fill side roles with a bunch of kids. Like I said, as long as it isn't too asking on people, most adults will help you out. My dad even played the CIA director in Splinter Cell. haha.

Sincerely,
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Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 11:59am

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I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, apologies if it came across that way. I was merely wondering what kind of project I'm dealing with.

I'd like to ask you when you were 15-16 did you have 25-30 year old actors?... I'm going to work with what I got...
Well, I'd argue it's always possible to find people in the right age to play roles OR if not, you should try to work your story around people that are actually the age your actors are.

When I was 14 for example and made movies, they either had no story at all or the stories evolved around 14 years olds, if even exeptional (I made a movie called "Cyborg" for example, so instead of a government agency or super scientist to create one, my story evolved around two 14 year olds who still go to school and try to reanimate the dead flesh of a classmate).

Just a suggestion, since you praised the "high production values" so much in your thread, I was automatically also thinking about the actors as well. No need to get defensive, you can't expect everyone to go "WHOA" about it. For me personally, a story like the one you described - while potentially really good - falls apart immediately if this "agent" is 15 years old. I simply don't believe in what I see then to begin with, and film is all about successful lying. smile

So good luck with your movie in any case, even though I won't be part of your target audience.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 4:50pm

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Okay I read every post I'm just not going to quote them because it's to much on my part. smile

Let me start off by saying I'm sorry for sounding like a jerk, I normally try really hard to not sound... well like a jerk.

I want to start off on the tag-team thing, I never asked seargent to post, I just told him about the thread, but since he hasnt posted in oh I dont know... about a year I didnt think he would post but he did... making us look like a tag-team.

SOLLTHAR-You got me Sollthar sorry for questioning you. And yeah I dont think I should have said anything about the production value until I had something to show for it, but I did and I still stand by it.

ATOM- A compliment huh?... well If you say so smile It really wasnt him comparing us to you guys it was the "hilarity" and "ridiculousness that got me. He didnt even say anything about the thread he just jumped in with that.

And then the age comments, nothing is going to change there. You said something about your dad playing, well I'm going to choose acting over age, not that my friends are the best actors ever but, there whole lot better than my parents, although we do have an adult to play a women news anchor.

DANCAMFX- I took peoples comments and just replied It's not like I told you "SHUT UP!! It's nothing like shooter!!" I even admitted that the plot was very similer and that I could see how you would come off on that assumption.

Lastly I'm possibly getting a new pc withen the week, a lot sooner than I thought, therefor this thread will be posted with graphics and screens galore...
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 5:02pm

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I think aren't finding this production to be too interesting because A) the plot is cliche, and B) there's just not much content (screenshots) in the post.

I know, you said that you can't post pics because your PC is dead and all. Then why didn't you just wait until you got a new computer and had more to show us? Even though the plot doesn't sound entirely fresh, your script might be. So I'll give you a chance on that.

Then there's the age issue. I got to agree with Sollthar on this one. Seeing kids playing as government agents just doesn't seem right to me. It just reminds me of Spy Kids.

Even though I stated all of those things, I'll still watch the movie and I hope it will be good. Because I love those types of films (Enemy of State, Bourne Trilogy). Good Luck!
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 5:52pm

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On the age argument...I don't think its fair to say that someone shouldn't make a film because they couldn't get people of the appropiate age. Should everybody who is too young to pull off role usually given to an adult be forced to only make films that involve kids? That sounds dumb. People make films a bout topics and plots that interest them. Spielberg loved WW2 when he was a kid so he made war films regardless of the age of his actors. I'm not saying you can't not like a movie for that reason, but I think its bad advice.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 6:30pm

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FreshMentos wrote:


Even though I stated all of those things, I'll still watch the movie and I hope it will be good. Because I love those types of films (Enemy of State, Bourne Trilogy). Good Luck!
Thats all I'm ask'in smile

Give me a couple weeks and I'll put up a scene, some stills, graphics, the whole deal... thanks
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 6:44pm

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I'd think it would be a compliment. smile I'd never put "we finished Scene...", I'd put something about the scene or something Klausky, you know that! smile
What I'm trying to say here is that this thread is attempting to be like yours or the many other INFORMATIVE ones like it. You do a great job with them, and build a lot of interest for your project. It's just sometimes this hurts you...splinter cell...

My problem with Rebourne's post and then his subsequent, combative ones, is that this thread really doesn't have the meat to satiate people's taste. I understand Rebourne doesnt have the means to post pictures or video at this time, but why not be patient and post a great thread when the time comes? It's inevitable for people to have a negative response to your movie when they are told its going to be great, but are not given the material to make their own judgement.

Seargent's post about "where Fxhome is headed" really annoyed me and made me want to post in this thread.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 7:23pm

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Yeah I didnt know he would post that and trust me I didnt want him to post it, I didnt think that anyone would post untill I started getting pics and video up so yeah... I see what you mean about waiting.
Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 8:21pm

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Rebourne wrote:

And then the age comments, nothing is going to change there. You said something about your dad playing, well I'm going to choose acting over age, not that my friends are the best actors ever but, there whole lot better than my parents, although we do have an adult to play a women news anchor.
Well, I can't speak for that. Almost all of my friends are damn good actors, I think that's obvious. smile

Klausky wrote:


Seargent's post about "where Fxhome is headed" really annoyed me and made me want to post in this thread.
You mean to Canterbury? smile

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