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Posted: Fri, 18th Jan 2008, 10:30pm

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So I just got back from Cloverfield and I can definitely say I was impressed. The acting was phenomenal, the sound intense, and the monster, I was just blown away. Two of the friends i saw it with hated it because nothing was explained at the end but I think thats adds to part of its charm. It was told form the perspective of a random group of people and they never found out what it was because they all died except for Lilly. I went into that movie fully expecting not to be told what the monster was or where it came from, and the movie was so artfully done that I didn't care either way. I highly recommend you go see this movie, it is really worth the price of a ticket.




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thers no sex or anything like that right?
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 12:50am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
It's PG-13. The MPAA seems to think that teenagers can't handle sex. razz
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 2:23am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
No offensive, but you've Got to be kidding me...
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 2:24am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
How do you think lady liberty gets her head torn off?
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 2:32am

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Pooky wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
How do you think lady liberty gets her head torn off?
dang, that monster must have been really bad at it. I guess it got mad when lady liberty kept a straight face(first timer lol)
Anyways I doubt it will have sex cause why would someone with a camera be filming people doin it. He'd have to be some real pervert. But as Pooky stated, the monster does get rough on lady liberty. So don't watch unless you like statue and monster sex biggrin
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 3:18am

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
I think the movie would be too hardcore for you.

@Bryce007, I think you almost made me cry biggrin
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 4:13am

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Don't listen to these guys! The movie is actually brimming with sex, basically from the very start. I know the trailers gave you the impression that it was an action packed monster film, but don't be fooled! It's basically just a porno, and an amature one at that... all with a handheld camera and poor lighting. Just disgraceful.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 4:38am

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Squid wrote:

Don't listen to these guys! The movie is actually brimming with sex, basically from the very start. I know the trailers gave you the impression that it was an action packed monster film, but don't be fooled! It's basically just a porno, and an amature one at that... all with a handheld camera and poor lighting. Just disgraceful.
You really hit it right there. When I saw it today (or yesterday, depending on your time zones), I was absolutely befuddled that a PG-13 film could feature so many sex scenes! eek

Yeah, no. Cloverfield is hardly a porn flick. The only sexual inuendo is in the beginning, when one of the girls is "naked"-- but covered up by sheets.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 5:13am

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How you deduce, out of all things, wondering if there is sex in a gigantic monster movie before, say, excessive gore, violence, or language is beyond me.

We've got a strict rating system for a reason, so you don't have to spoil the movie for yourself by trying to make sure it's appropriate. Rating are clear and there to do that for you. PG-13 means no grotesque death, one f-word maximum, and no nudity. Past that, it's up to you.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 5:15am

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Yes my friend, yes I'm afraid you have bested me.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 5:39am

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Yo, I just bought the soundtrack. It's great. It's just a bunch of "AHHH!!!"s.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 5:58am

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Mr Pencil wrote:

Yo, I just bought the soundtrack. It's great. It's just a bunch of "AHHH!!!"s.
AHHH!!!s, as in people screaming or as in a choir making noises like "Battle of the Heroes"?
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:01am

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Multiwagon wrote:

So I just got back from Cloverfield and I can definitely say I was impressed. The acting was phenomenal, the sound intense, and the monster, I was just blown away. Two of the friends i saw it with hated it because nothing was explained at the end but I think thats adds to part of its charm. It was told form the perspective of a random group of people and they never found out what it was because they all died except for Lilly. I went into that movie fully expecting not to be told what the monster was or where it came from, and the movie was so artfully done that I didn't care either way. I highly recommend you go see this movie, it is really worth the price of a ticket.
You gotta be kidding me this was the worst movie ever made. There's more talent here on the FXhome cinema. This movie almost made me throw up from all the camera motion. I would not recomend this movie to anyone. I want my money back.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:27am

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This movie was f**king amazing. I don't even want to hear any naysayers who get all caught up in some plot holes (of course there are plot holes), or how nothing is explained or that the camera is too shaky or that the plot isn't developed enough.

If you have these complaints you obviously didn't understand the point of the movie at all.

One of the most intense theater going experiences I've ever had. The theater was packed (they actually had to announce to everyone to behave b/c 80% of the theater were teenagers), and there was dead silence when there was supposed to be, and screams of pleasure all throughout.

This movie is just plain badass, and exceeded almost every expectation I had for it.

If you stay for the credits you're actually treated to a really nice piece of original score (the only score in the whole movie, obviously).

And Christianfilmer... are you serious?
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 7:16am

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Dang, I wanted to see this movie so badly today. Unfortunately I've been recovering from a flu I've had all week. Hopefully I can see it tomorrow.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 7:54am

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RodyPolis wrote:

Pooky wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
How do you think lady liberty gets her head torn off?
dang, that monster must have been really bad at it. I guess it got mad when lady liberty kept a straight face(first timer lol)
Anyways I doubt it will have sex cause why would someone with a camera be filming people doin it. He'd have to be some real pervert. But as Pooky stated, the monster does get rough on lady liberty. So don't watch unless you like statue and monster sex biggrin
Thanks for developing that.

How do you know I wasn't suggesting the monster was a giant Mantis?
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 8:24am

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That film was great. The only bad thing I have to say is that now there are going to be so many amateur movies filmed like this. But yeah great movie.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 9:07am

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I don't mean to give anything away, but it was awesome when the monster's wings were finally revealed and we got to see it flying ever so briefly. Man, what an awesome monster. Also, the fire breath was really well done.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 1:13pm

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man i saw that at the 9:30 pm showing (Eastern Standard Time) and wow that was really neat. i wrote a review over at IMBd so that should be up soon but man everything was great, the only thing i had a problem with was it started a little slow. but yeah! saw it on 1-18-08!
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 3:55pm

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Man, I haven't seen this yet, and I'm pretty pissed because of it. I was supposed to see it yesterday, but the person I was going to see it with got grounded. Now, my other friend who I plan to see it today with isn't responding! Gah!

Oh, and ChristianFilmer.... I'm going to have a chat with you. wink
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 4:37pm

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RodyPolis wrote:

Pooky wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

thers no sex or anything like that right?
How do you think lady liberty gets her head torn off?
dang, that monster must have been really bad at it. I guess it got mad when lady liberty kept a straight face(first timer lol)
Anyways I doubt it will have sex cause why would someone with a camera be filming people doin it. He'd have to be some real pervert. But as Pooky stated, the monster does get rough on lady liberty. So don't watch unless you like statue and monster sex biggrin
Never mind I checked the rating for myself sorry that i ask a question...Yall are being really immature, and nowadays theres more sexual stuff in pg-13 film than R.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 4:38pm

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Fill wrote:

Oh, and ChristianFilmer.... I'm going to have a chat with you. wink
Uh-Oh! Not the birds and the bees! stun
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 4:42pm

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Besides the stunning visuals and the camera man's jokes, I really didnt like this all that much. Having the home video perspective was definitely the right move, and it gave the film an interesting neorealist approach to a truly unbelievable event. The only problem was I thought the actors' performances were too sanitized -- probably because of the PG-13 rating.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 5:32pm

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

Yall are being really immature
Yes, the people who aren't afraid of sex and aren't 14 years old and who haven't been sexually repressed all their life are being immature. Makes sense. unsure

You do know that, according to Freud, every action you make is primarily driven (subconsciously) by sexual urges? Hypocrite! razz
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 5:59pm

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A Freud reference of all things?! Pretention Ho! biggrin
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:02pm

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Well he's proven time and time again throughout the forums that he never listens to or takes into account anything we have to say regarding things like sex/violence, so I just let loose. smile
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:06pm

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Evman wrote:

This movie was f**king amazing. I don't even want to hear any naysayers who get all caught up in some plot holes (of course there are plot holes), or how nothing is explained or that the camera is too shaky or that the plot isn't developed enough.

If you have these complaints you obviously didn't understand the point of the movie at all.
That's quite a statement there. "If you didn't like it you're just a 'naysayer' and if you don't agree with me you obviously are too stupid to 'get' it." smile
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:07pm

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

nowadays theres more sexual stuff in pg-13 film than R.
"Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!"

As much as I'd love it if the world were governed by primal urges and actions intimately linked to sex and feces that doesn't stop Freud being a mad sexist quack.
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:22pm

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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

nowadays theres more sexual stuff in pg-13 film than R.
There is? How would you know this, if you're afraid to watch any movie with sex?
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:22pm

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I was under the impression it was supposed to be an alternative for 9-11? IThat's what I read in a review...
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:30pm

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Yes, Freud did coke quite heavily if I remember correctly, and I'll be the first to say he was mildly insane. But Christianfilmer doesn't know that. Oh wait.

Atom - you didn't "get it" did you? razz

Enough with this juvenile stuff, lets talk about the movie.

Having more time to think about it, I still think that it was amazing. (SPOILERS from here on out, btw).

The use of the handheld style really made this feel real, like it really was a tape that was recovered after a major event like this. The mystery surrounding the entire film was amazing. The reason that the monster is there or what it is is never given, which I thanked the movie immensely for. Would ordinary people in this situation really know or really care why this thing was attacking? They'd just want to survive.

The monster itself was delightfully new and interesting. The best I can compare it to is a mixture of a sloth and a reptile, but about 10 times more badass. It spawned these little tiny monsters, about the size of dogs, that were basically a combo of crocodile, pit bull, monkey, and spider, and were scary as hell. The night vision shot in the tunnel particularly was one of the most frightening parts of the film.

There are no scenes where the president discusses what it is and whether or not to nuke it. There are no scenes of military leaders telling everyone what it is and why it needs to be destroyed. There are no scientists that come rushing in at the last minute with the answer. And the monster certainly is never killed.

The fact that the monster is never killed on screen is fantastic in the mystery aspect.

The way I envision the entire story is that this thing is an "alien" so to speak, that can survive in deep space. It flew here from god-knows-where, and landed. The little things inside are like those fish that keep sharks clean and travel with it as it moves. The space idea would explain why no weapons could harm its thick skin, and why the creatures in general had no outright similarities to any earth based creatures.

I've heard that apparently, in the last scene at Coney Island, when the camera is looking out over the ocean, you can see something fall from the sky and land in the ocean, just before it pans back over to Rob and Beth. I'm gonna have to go again now to see this for myself (not that I wasn't going to anyway smile ), as it would fit into my mental version of what happened quite nicely.

Sure, the plot was a little rough, but honestly, it felt real. Real life situations don't have neat little movie plots to them, and the fact that the movie had some kind of story that wasn't simply run away from the monster for 80 minutes was commendable in and of itself. There was no neat little movie plot for people in NYC on 9/11, there was no plot for people trying to survive Katrina, and there needn't be a complex plot for this film either.

I read a review complaining about the camera work, and how the guy just needed to get a damn tripod already. I think it's pretty obvious why this argument is completely stupid. The entire POINT of the film is that it's found footage of a monster attack. Monsters attack, I don't grab a tripod and worry about cinematic composition. The cameraman walks a very fine line (very well) between completely incomprehensibly shaky footage and cinematic shots. Closeups of people feel very real, and the monster attack sequences are "skillfully shaky" as I'd call it. It took a few minutes to get used to, but everyone in the theater pretty much came to the consensus that there was enough set up at the beginning that they got used to it.

(End spoilers)


I'd really like to legitimately hear some specific criticisms of this film, as I honestly don't see how any one (especially on this site) could NOT enjoy it. razz
Posted: Sat, 19th Jan 2008, 6:45pm

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Evman wrote:

I've heard that apparently, in the last scene at Coney Island, when the camera is looking out over the ocean, you can see something fall from the sky and land in the ocean, just before it pans back over to Rob and Beth. I'm gonna have to go again now to see this for myself (not that I wasn't going to anyway smile ), as it would fit into my mental version of what happened quite nicely.
I never saw that, but I was just waiting for something to like come out or something. Looks like I now have a reason to see it again... and the same with you, I was going to anyway at some point. razz
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Darth Penguin wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

nowadays theres more sexual stuff in pg-13 film than R.
There is? How would you know this, if you're afraid to watch any movie with sex?
I don't think he's afraid. It's just if he's going to see a movie in the theaters(think that his parents are bringing him there) it might be weird if it have stuff like on a huge screen with your parents right beside you.
"Close your eyes kids! Bad scene" I know I would be embarrassed. So there's nothing wrong with you.
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Rating: -2

I would get in trouble for saying why I skip scenes or skip movies all together that have sex or innuendos in them because it has to do with "religon" in it....


any way...I think i'm going to take a very long break from posting on this website! And yes I know that one of yall(probably Rawree)is going to come back with a smartalky come back and be like"yes!" or "l8r loser" or "good ridence!" and even some of you might cus me off but I get alot of it from school for no reason, so I'm used to idiotic comments from the immature ways of the world! peace!


And yeah my parents take me to the theaters...I dont have a car yet. thank you rody.(seriously)
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Shame. It won't be the same without you buddy... good luck out there, and thanks for leaving the girls to us.

Just a tip though: I used to be just like you. I'm not anymore. If you start listening, you might find out why... everything is not what you think it is.
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Good ridden...wait a minute you almost got me there. Seriously though if you have a problem with something I've said then you should have sent me a PM about it so that at the very least I'd be aware of it (although this is obviously no guarantee that my views or attitude will change). You don't get half as much stick as some other members do (the Adams clan used to get all sorts of bother from people predisposed to calling them out on everything, even if they weren't doing anything wrong).

I think it's a shame if you're put off this site due to a conflict of opinions but when you're an individual with strong opinions you can be sure that you'll run headlong into other people of differing but similarly strong beliefs all through your life especially when dealing with more controversial issues (there's a reason why religious discussion is banned and a name like "ChristianFilmer" is unlikely to invite the most level headed of impressions (especially when bringing religion into seemingly unrelated topics).

Anyhow, this movie - worth seeing with friends or the missus at the cinema or the kind of fun action/monster movie that I won't be missing out on if I only catch it on DVD?
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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

that have sex or innuendos in them because it has to do with "religon" in it....
This honestly makes no sense. Do you know what innuendo is? It's tongue-in-cheek normally.

I get alot of it from school for no reason
Oh, I think there's a reason. And hearing now that you don't just get the same shpeel from us internet people should tell you something.

And yeah my parents take me to the theaters...I dont have a car yet. thank you rody.(seriously)
Surely you have friends you see movies with, right? I know before I could drive my parents for years would just drop me off somewhere for a couple of hours. And they're strict.

Now later, loser. Good riddance with you! Arsehole! wink
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Atom wrote:

Surely you have friends you see movies with, right?
I think you're assuming too much...
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I think you guys are being a little too mean here. Come one now, it's just rude in a way.
To Christianfilmer: I can say I'm a strong Christian. Really. I do everything Christians do and more. I pray, go to church, I try my best to follow all rules and I believe in God/Jesus 100% That's one reason I'm backing you up. But COME ON MAN! What you're doing here in 100% ridiculous.
I sometimes get mad here reading some people's views about religion, but I don't care really.
I know Christians like you. The kind are are just not ready for the real world. Look around you buddy, It's a sad world we live in you just have to adapt. I'm not saying to do what other people do but don't go with your "I'm a Christian, I'm better than you" attitude. Unless you're gonna live in "Planet Jesus" these kind of things happen every time.
Don't be so defensive about everything. Don't go around excluding yourself from everyone saying that they're sinners and that you don't want anything to do with them. The Bible tells us to tell people about the gospel. There's no way of doing that if you exclude yourself from everybody. I have many Christian friends and many non-Christian friends. I act about the same around any of them ( I'm not a two-faced person) I usually talk to my non-christian friends about religions. Not all of them really care but I've got some of them considering it. I usualy tell them personal experience then I listen to what they have to say. and no matter what their view is, I act the best I can and show example.
It's sad that I believe that Christians(specially in America, no offense) are 50% the reason why atheists think what they think about us.
A girl I know what on the bus coming back from school when a "Bad" kid said"hey, what's up? what's you're name?" I was sad that the girl wouldn't answer him just because he was a "Bad" kid. That's not being a Christian, that's just being weird and being a jerk. That's a main thing I notice about most Christians kids here, all they do is hang out with their own kind. That's not bad. Don't get me wrong. I hang out with christians too. People act like that as a young kid then ask why everything is so different when they grow up. when they go to college and they can't find the other Christians to hang out with they start complaining saying that the world is a bad place for christians. It is a bad world, but sometimes we make it harder.
So, all I wanted to say that you shouldn't fool yourself by thinking that if you only hang out with Christians will make you a better Christian. And I'm not saying to do what everyone does. Just don't be acting like that. Don't be defensive about everything and nothing, you're just hurting yourself and yourself only. I really hope that the "Christians are Jerks" saying would be over and your not helping.
With that said, Peace!
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Aculag wrote:

Atom wrote:

Surely you have friends you see movies with, right?
I think you're assuming too much...
yeah your actually right!(yes i just broke my little break of an hour and 27 min biggrin)I dont have very many friends and it's mostly because kids dont except me because i'm not interested in what they are, I tried asking them what there interests are and they something stupid like"Your Mom!" So I gave up on what other people thoght because at least 90% of the kids that I know are total idiots and not because they're not christian....huh..I'm sorry(I know some of yall are rolling yalls eyes but it's true)...
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RodyPolis wrote:

I think you guys are being a little too mean here. Come one now, it's just rude in a way.
To Christianfilmer: I can say I'm a strong Christian. Really. I do everything Christians do and more. I pray, go to church, I try my best to follow all rules and I believe in God/Jesus 100% That's one reason I'm backing you up. But COME ON MAN! What you're doing here in 100% ridiculous.
I sometimes get mad here reading some people's views about religion, but I don't care really.
I know Christians like you. The kind are are just not ready for the real world. Look around you buddy, It's a sad world we live in you just have to adapt. I'm not saying to do what other people do but don't go with your "I'm a Christian, I'm better than you" attitude. Unless you're gonna live in "Planet Jesus" these kind of things happen every time.
Don't be so defensive about everything. Don't go around excluding yourself from everyone saying that they're sinners and that you don't want anything to do with them. The Bible tells us to tell people about the gospel. There's no way of doing that if you exclude yourself from everybody. I have many Christian friends and many non-Christian friends. I act about the same around any of them ( I'm not a two-faced person) I usually talk to my non-christian friends about religions. Not all of them really care but I've got some of them considering it. I usualy tell them personal experience then I listen to what they have to say. and no matter what their view is, I act the best I can and show example.
It's sad that I believe that Christians(specially in America, no offense) are 50% the reason why atheists think what they think about us.
A girl I know what on the bus coming back from school when a "Bad" kid said"hey, what's up? what's you're name?" I was sad that the girl wouldn't answer him just because he was a "Bad" kid. That's not being a Christian, that's just being weird and being a jerk. That's a main thing I notice about most Christians kids here, all they do is hang out with their own kind. That's not bad. Don't get me wrong. I hang out with christians too. People act like that as a young kid then ask why everything is so different when they grow up. when they go to college and they can't find the other Christians to hang out with they start complaining saying that the world is a bad place for christians. It is a bad world, but sometimes we make it harder.
So, all I wanted to say that you shouldn't fool yourself by thinking that if you only hang out with Christians will make you a better Christian. And I'm not saying to do what everyone does. Just don't be acting like that. Don't be defensive about everything and nothing, you're just hurting yourself and yourself only. I really hope that the "Christians are Jerks" saying would be over and your not helping.
With that said, Peace!
man, its nice to see an informed attitude. i agree 100%.

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RodyPolis wrote:

(What RodyPolis said)
Oh, thank God(no pun intended)! Someone who feels the same way. I agree with you 100% there, man. I used to be a Christian, and other Christians would jab at me for hanging out with non-Christians, like they were going to send me to hell or something.

I'm seeing Cloverfield tonight, too go back on topic.
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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

Aculag wrote:

Atom wrote:

Surely you have friends you see movies with, right?
I think you're assuming too much...
yeah your actually right!(yes i just broke my little break of an hour and 27 min biggrin)I dont have very many friends and it's mostly because kids dont except me because i'm not interested in what they are, I tried asking them what there interests are and they something stupid like"Your Mom!" So I gave up on what other people thoght because at least 90% of the kids that I know are total idiots and not because they're not christian....huh..I'm sorry(I know some of yall are rolling yalls eyes but it's true)...
Maybe you should sign up for a martial arts class. I have lots of teens your age at my school and they all started with your level of no confidence. My top students now were some of my weakest when they started but now are champions and full of confidence. Never show others your weakness only your strengths.
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Please everyone, let's stay on topic!

Well I just saw it. I don't think I've ever had a feeling as weird as this one after seeing a movie. The movie itself was insanely awesome. But I was left with a bit of empty feeling. I think a little too much was left out. I wish that there could have been something after the end credits that gave some kind of clue. It also seemed weird walking out of the theater because it was extremely quiet and sunny outside. razz

I just have one major question (Quote to read the spoiler): What was Cloverfield?!
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FreshMentos wrote:

What was Cloverfield?!
"Cloverfield" was a street name that J.J. Abrams used to live on. It was a codename, and it wasn't intended to be called Cloverfield, but because it spilled out so much on the Internet, they decided to stick with it.
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I really can't see how a movie filmed from a handheld camcorder like this can be good, but at the same time I'm hoping it will be (especially since everyone says it is). I'm not sure if I'll see it in theaters or not, but I'm staring to look foreword to it.
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Jabooza wrote:

I really can't see how a movie filmed from a handheld camcorder like this can be good, but at the same time I'm hoping it will be (especially since everyone says it is). I'm not sure if I'll see it in theaters or not, but I'm staring to look foreword to it.
Yeah i dont get it either dude? I dont think that guy could swivle an HD camera with one hand like in that scene where he says "if you are seeing this....I'm dead!" ??????
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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

Jabooza wrote:

I really can't see how a movie filmed from a handheld camcorder like this can be good, but at the same time I'm hoping it will be (especially since everyone says it is). I'm not sure if I'll see it in theaters or not, but I'm staring to look foreword to it.
Yeah i dont get it either dude? I dont think that guy could swivle an HD camera with one hand like in that scene where he says "if you are seeing this....I'm dead!" ??????
maybe he had an HV20 lol
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@Jabooza, I think the movie is worth watching in theaters

@RodyPolis, I saw some on-set screens of them using a Panasonic HVX200. I heard that they used film in some parts as well.
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Hehe.. the reason Jabooza doesn't know whether he'll go see it in the theatres isn't that he doesn't want to, it's that he has two little brothers who would rather watch Alvin and the Chipmunks biggrin
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Hehe.. the reason Jabooza doesn't know whether he'll go see it in the theatres isn't that he doesn't want to, it's that he has two little brothers who would rather watch Alvin and the Chipmunks biggrin
Heh, yeah. I'd go see any halfway decent movie in the theater just for the sake of going to the theater. smile
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Now that I think about it, Cloverfield uses almost the same style as Vengeance, the movie by Darth Penguin.
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I've tried to avoid any big spoilers, I'll white out anything that gives major stuff away. This is probably the sloppiest, most 'look at the descriptive quotes' review I've ever written, but feel free to read it. Also, if you're like Evman and you hate when I write insanely long dissertations, you might not want to read. Either way, here's what I've got to say....


I just got back from seeing the movie. It was showing at my movie theaters larger screen (there are two 'giant-screens' in the 15-room theater) and the whole thing was sold out. I wanted to see this movie just to see what the fuss was about (sort of like why I saw the pathetic Juno, but that's another story) and I'm glad I bought tickets in advance because the showing (at 5:50, not exactly primetime on a Saturday) was completely sold out. So were all the subsequent showings.

Here's what I thought:


The movie was good. I'm not, as Hud in the movie says, 'shitting my pants' about it (like Evman is, haha) but it was definitely good. For anyone who is decent with a handheld camera who has ever just carelessly documented a party or a day at the fair or whatever, this captures that feel perfectly.

The cuts are appropriate and realistic, so is (most) of the cinematography. At first, when Rob (protagonist)'s brother has the camera, it's mayhem. I almost wanted to leave at the jarring-ness of it. But when the camera is handed to Hud (Rob's best friend) things become more easily-focused and there's a general sense of 'here's what's going on, let me show the audience' camerawork. This sort of verite style reminded me of two years ago when I was filming Cover's Story, the sort of 'show what happens, and make it look cool' train of thought.

The scripting is good and the performances are all top notch. Nothing crazy dramatic or Oscar-worthy, but very true-to-form. The direction, acting, and general feel of this movie reminded me of how I feel when I watch the HBO show "The Wire", in that even though there's nothing crazily cinematic or overdone, it just feels......real. Like real problems, the way people would actually react. Not necessarily memorable of even likable dialogue (a la "call it, friendo.", etc) but still very sharp, witty, and mostly realistic.

The characters that are drawn out are very likable (Lily I found to be pretty hot, I dunno about Beth, she wasn't shown on-camera that much) and even the side ones like Marlena who are sort of esoteric and expendable they remind you exactly of that semi-weird stranger sitting in the corner of a party. I dunno if that makes sense.

Overall, this movie was good. The pacing, too, was actually really good. I felt that, unlike another disaster movie "The Day After Tomorrow" that an otherwise good movie was tied up too quickly. No, I was actually fine with the ending, and I felt that they ended it appropriately.

When the credits ran, a bunch of people int he back went "OH, COME ON! ARE YOU KIDDING?!?" and I couldn't help but laugh at them. Maybe in the abrupt, misunderstood ending of No Country for Old Men could I see people saying this, but at Cloverfield it was tied up appropriately, and it fit the overall 'impending doom, but that's not what matters right now' feel. Nothing is really cut short or discontinued. Actually, most of what happens in the movie is very, very predictable (we know most of what is going to happen just from seeing the trailer, you guys; also, the opening credits saying where the video is found should probably have given a lot away...) it's just the in-between bits of how they happen that we're there to watch.

If the group of characters had all bitten the dust while crossing back over the roof of the big apartment (when they see the monster about two blocks below) then I would have felt sort of cheated, but the two subsequent bits fit well with the 'let's go all over the city' feel of the entire movie. I think it was wrapped up pretty well.

Oh, and the last bit at Coney Island is clever. It's not overly-witty or clever or anything, just a nice little nuance to end the movie on.

I liked this movie. I'd put it on par with how much I liked I Am Legend, but more of a concurrent opinion in that I liked it just as much but for different reasons. If you liked I Am Legend, even despite the hollow ending, I suspect you'll enjoy Cloverfield.

If you're a Hitchcock cinematography stickler, I really really doubt you'll like this movie. But if you can appreciate the whole concept for what it is (nothing groundbreaking, but still clever and generally fresh in its approach) then I think this is a movie you might like.

Another quick blurb: when the movie started being advertised as "CLOVERFIELD!!! LOLZ, the viral searchers were right!!! That's the name o the movie!!! OMGZ!!!" I didn't like it, but the fact that the name comes, as the opening credits state, from the military terms of the occurence make sense. I mean, if you buy 'Operation Blackbriar' or 'Treadstone' in the Bourne movies, then 'Cloverfield' isn't too far a cry.


I diverged from my general tastes (clean, objective camerawork, good musical score) and took a chance on this movie and it was essentially pretty good.

A 7/10-ish. Higher if you're only judging it as a home video, lower if you're judging it as an actual movie.

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Now that I think about it, Cloverfield uses almost the same style as Vengeance, the movie by Darth Penguin.
Yeah... maybe I should sue them biggrin
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RodyPolis wrote:

Now that I think about it, Cloverfield uses almost the same style as Vengeance, the movie by Darth Penguin.
Yeah, I noticed that too, the style is very similar. The main difference is that Cloverfield is footage from only one camera, or at least, that's what I think.
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Just got back from this. Best monster movie, ever. Period. I agree with Ben, on this one, but I'm semi-'sh!tting my pants'. The cinematography was awesome. Just such a unique style. I love how inquisitive Hud is with the camera. He wants to see everything, just like you do, and it really puts you in his shoes.

ben3308 wrote:

Oh, and the last bit at Coney Island is clever. It's not overly-witty or clever or anything, just a nice little nuance to end the movie on.
Semi-Spoilers:

Dude, I gotta say that that was the best part of the movie. It was so damn ironic, that it made me laugh in a, "man, that's the worst thing that could possibly be on the screen after all that's happened."



When the credits ran, a bunch of people int he back went "OH, COME ON! ARE YOU KIDDING?!?"
Hahahaha! Dude, my experience was awesome. The entire theater was dead silent, it was a few seconds in the credits, and someone broke the silence with, "Holy sh*t." That person spoke for everyone.

Oh, and after the credits, someone whispered something, but I couldn't understand it.


Go see this movie, now.
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Fill wrote:


Oh, and after the credits, someone whispered something, but I couldn't understand it.
*SPOILERS*

Now I am not saying I am 100% sure this is correct but I have heard what is supposedly this sound clip reversed and it says "Its still alive". I do not know if this is actually the clip or just some sound file that people are bullsh*tting us with but anyways, most people seem to think it is for real.
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The director acknowledged the (large) possibility of a sequel in the near future and that it would feature recording from someone else who just happened to be recording the events that night.

Would be cool to see the drama from a different viewpoint, it could be a completely different story and would likely shed more light onto the outcome.

Though I liked the outcome of the actual movie.
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Let me just point out - SEE THIS MOVIE IN A THEATER!!!

I don't imagine it being nearly the same on DVD. I sat up relatively close so that the screen filled my view (not too close though), and I was so immersed it was unbelievable. Especially with the surround sound and all, I really felt in the movie, with the camera work and all. I don't see how DVD could possibly be as good unless you've got a huge home theater and it's VERY dark.

In conclusion, SEE IT IN THEATERS OR YOU WILL KICK YOURSELF! razz
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I saw it on Saturday and it was pretty much empty. But the movie was everything I hoped it to be. The sound was amazing....
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Multiwagon wrote:

*SPOILERS*

Now I am not saying I am 100% sure this is correct but I have heard what is supposedly this sound clip reversed and it says "Its still alive". I do not know if this is actually the clip or just some sound file that people are bullsh*tting us with but anyways, most people seem to think it is for real.
Well someone on the indymogul forums posted a link to this soundfile. It could be real or it could be fake. I'll have to go see it again with a tape recorder.
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I saw it again, the thing crash landing in the water at the end is indeed there, but too small to discern what it was. Intriguing though.
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Evman wrote:

I saw it again, the thing crash landing in the water at the end is indeed there, but too small to discern what it was. Intriguing though.
Christ! Two times!?smile

Have you at least seen There Will Be Blood?
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i just saw it again today, the thing that lands in the water is VERY small, and the whisper at the end, which i heard the first time but didnt think anything of is there, and does say "ITS STILL ALIVE" in reverse.


awesome!
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*MINOR SPOILER*

You know, when there were those close-ups on the monster's face, it reminded me of the Acklay creature in the Geonosian arena in Attack of the Clones (green mantis-like creature).
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Saw it, and I really liked it.

Pro tip for those who haven't seen it: don't eat too much popcorn, soda, candy, etc., take a dramamine and bring advil. I was in a group of 9 and 4 of us literally got motion sickness (not to vomiting point, but enough to feel uncomfortable).

And while I understand the ending, it would have been nice to find out how it resolved on the broad scale.
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I loved it. And what I really really liked is that throughout the entire film of "amatuer camcorder" shots there are a number of very interesting very well planned shots that kept me intrigued.


SPOILERS




The scene where the group gets caught between the army shooting up the monster in the middle of the film is absolutely fantastic.
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"If we don't stop I'm going to **** my pants!" Poor Hud.

Not even funny-sounding when you just say it, but hilarious in such a tense movie.
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Saw it again today and I liked it even more because of the time I've had to think about it, and I noticed a lot more stuff that I didn't last time, including the splash at the end, which made me smile. This is such an awesome and well executed movie. Love it.

Also, that clip at the end of the credits didn't sound reversed to me at all... I plainly heard "It's still alive", so.. take that for what it's worth.
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Got around to seeing it and made the following observations...


The CGI is an incredibly mixed bag. Some of the effects are decent, whereas others are borderline embarrassing. ESPECIALLY compared to another, somewhat similar film named "War of the worlds"


The "monster" doesn't actually look very "Good", if you will. I generally disliked the design of it.

Certain running scenes were just pure blur. Which makes them near-useless.

The film was more or less the absolute best example of brilliant sound design, with many scenes making the hair on my neck stand up due to the intensity of it. a couple of the scenes had such powerful bass, you could literally feel it sweep through the theater seats.



Overall, a great, quick romp at the theater. Fairly unpredictable and as authentic looking as I can imagine them getting a film without making it annoying. 7/10


(Also, did anyone stick around for the credits? The musical score was VERY cool. Super bombastic drones and horns/drums. Check it out)
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I almost saw it last night but my mom and her friend took me my bo and her son to see nat'l treasure instead because they dont like those kinda flicks, but Nat'l Treas. was good 2!
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ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

I almost saw it last night but my mom and her friend took me my bo and her son to see nat'l treasure instead because they dont like those kinda flicks, but Nat'l Treas. was good 2!
BRO, I heard national treasure had non-stop sex scenes.

iz it tru? My mom sez she wont take me if theirs anything realistic in it...
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Bryce007 wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

I almost saw it last night but my mom and her friend took me my bo and her son to see nat'l treasure instead because they dont like those kinda flicks, but Nat'l Treas. was good 2!
BRO, I heard national treasure had non-stop sex scenes.

iz it tru? My mom sez she wont take me if theirs anything realistic in it...
is that sarcasm? caus you're 23. plus NT is rated PG
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RodyPolis wrote:

Bryce007 wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

I almost saw it last night but my mom and her friend took me my bo and her son to see nat'l treasure instead because they dont like those kinda flicks, but Nat'l Treas. was good 2!
BRO, I heard national treasure had non-stop sex scenes.

iz it tru? My mom sez she wont take me if theirs anything realistic in it...
is that sarcasm? caus you're 23. plus NT is rated PG
Really?
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People never cease to amaze me.
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i'm confused. i'm sorry guys, i've heard so many dumb and stupid thing that i believe everything. I still don't know if bryce was kidding, cause 23 year olds do live with their moms...
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Frosty G wrote:

RodyPolis wrote:

Bryce007 wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

I almost saw it last night but my mom and her friend took me my bo and her son to see nat'l treasure instead because they dont like those kinda flicks, but Nat'l Treas. was good 2!
BRO, I heard national treasure had non-stop sex scenes.

iz it tru? My mom sez she wont take me if theirs anything realistic in it...
is that sarcasm? caus you're 23. plus NT is rated PG
Really?
lames...
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Bryce007 wrote:

ChristianFilmer 100001 wrote:

I almost saw it last night but my mom and her friend took me my bo and her son to see nat'l treasure instead because they dont like those kinda flicks, but Nat'l Treas. was good 2!
BRO, I heard national treasure had non-stop sex scenes.

iz it tru? My mom sez she wont take me if theirs anything realistic in it...
You have to stop this now. But only because the thought of Nicholas Cage being brought to quivering orgasm will haunt me forever if you don't.
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What an amazing topic. I didn't bother to read how it got here...but I'm so glad it did.

That said, I saw Cloverfield on friday and didn't really like it too much. I actually started to feel sick with all the shaky footage.
There were some really well done action scenes, but after everything I didn't like the ending. Not one bit. I feel like I haven't seen a movie with a good ending in ages. O well, it was still entertaining.

*SPOILER*
When those soldiers took what's-her-face away after saying "we got another bite" or whatever, was that her exploding behind that plastic wall? If so...awesome!
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RodyPolis wrote:

i'm confused. i'm sorry guys, i've heard so many dumb and stupid thing that i believe everything. I still don't know if bryce was kidding, cause 23 year olds do live with their moms...
Rody, the Common Sense Fairy is on her way. Just hang on!
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BlueSmudge wrote:

What an amazing topic. I didn't bother to read how it got here...but I'm so glad it did.

That said, I saw Cloverfield on friday and didn't really like it too much. I actually started to feel sick with all the shaky footage.
There were some really well done action scenes, but after everything I didn't like the ending. Not one bit. I feel like I haven't seen a movie with a good ending in ages. O well, it was still entertaining.

*SPOILER*
When those soldiers took what's-her-face away after saying "we got another bite" or whatever, was that her exploding behind that plastic wall? If so...awesome!
Actually, I thought Cloverfield had one of the most heart wrenchingly ironic, breathtakingly executed, and non-cliched endings I've seen in years. It had the entire theater in stunned silence when the credits started (the silence was literally deafening b/c of the lack of music). It was fantastic.

And yes, she did explode when they took her behind that curtain thing.

And yeah, Bryce, I've still been trying to find "Roar - (Cloverfield Overture)" on the net somewhere. Best I can find is a bootlegged copy someone got with their phone or something, with voices in the background. It was a fantastic piece of music (Michael Giacchino never ceases to amaze me - he did the Incredibles and Ratatouille and was nominated for an Oscar for the latter).
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Holy hell. I saw this at the midnight showing, and it was one of the better movie experiences I've had in a LONG time.

I'm 100% with Evman on this one. The movie was truly an experience, and I plan on seeing it in theaters again soon...

just wow
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BlueSmudge wrote:

I feel like I haven't seen a movie with a good ending in ages. O well, it was still entertaining
As good as Cloverfield or No Country for Old Men or such all were, I agree. Totally masters of the Anti-Climax. I got my fix of superior endings with Michael Clayton and Gone Baby Gone, although 'Gone' does finally end on a 'No Country' style cue.

Both are worth watching for a good, meaty, solid ending.
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On 1-18 I doubled up on Cloverfield. Caught a matinee with some friends and went back that night with my nephew (free media passes rock). Good thing we got there early because the show quickly sold out. I'm glad I got a chance to see it twice. Like Aculag, I was able to appreciate some things more after the second viewing.

I didn't notice the splashdown at Coney Island either time. I did catch the sound clip at the end. The first viewing, I couldn't quite make it out. After the evening show, there was a lot of chatter and I couldn't even hear it. Thanks for confirming what it said. Not that I'm a drooling fanboy planning to launch an uber-queer Cloverfield 2 blog. It was just a nice touch. It brought a wry smile to my face.
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Artifex wrote:

I didn't notice the splashdown at Coney Island either time.
I just barely caught it on the 2nd time seeing the movie at the theater, it happens near the upper right part of the screen just behind the boat. They pull the camera away from the ocean shot a split second after the splash, its quick.

One thing I love about this movie is that for the people who watch a pirated copy online not only ruin the movie for themselves, but also never get to really see the monster in detail like seeing it on the big screen or the splash everyone's talking about at the end. I saw part of a pirated copy after I saw it at the theater to see if I could see the splash again, but could barely even see the boat.

I have watched a couple pirated copies of movies online, but ones I really have no care or interest ever seeing even if they're free to see at theaters which means I have to get in my car and drive all the way down to the theater, not worth it, but some movies just demand respect and to be seeing in theaters and Cloverfield is one of them. Hope there's a special edition when it comes out on DVD because that will be a for sure buy.
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I'm going to see it this saturday and I can't wait! biggrin
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How you deduce, out of all things, wondering if there is sex in a gigantic monster movie before, say, excessive gore, violence, or language is beyond me.

We've got a strict rating system for a reason, so you don't have to spoil the movie for yourself by trying to make sure it's appropriate. Rating are clear and there to do that for you. PG-13 means no grotesque death, one f-word maximum, and no nudity. Past that, it's up to you.
Actually.. there are quite a few pg-13 movies that have used more then a couple of f words.. i think the most i've seen in one pg-13 is 3. But i believe that it can be used in a non sexual term.. like oh man.. that's f-ed up... or oh f-.. I'm late for class."

Nudity is also subjective to a pg-13 movie. Both Across the Universe and Titanic contain boobage. But in both cases.. it wasn't necessarily sexual.

Regaurdless though, i was surprised at the level of gore allowed in the scene where the lady exploded.. I mean that was quite graphic and definately stood out even after the film ended.
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Regaurdless though, i was surprised at the level of gore allowed in the scene where the lady exploded.. I mean that was quite graphic and definately stood out even after the film ended.
Didn't actually show it, just implied it.

Careful what we say because there's still people who haven't seen it, when someone goes to see the movie knowing something shocking is going to happen, then its not so shocking when it does happen because they were expecting it, even if it isn't necessarily a spoiler.
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Nudity is also subjective to a pg-13 movie. Both Across the Universe and Titanic contain boobage. But in both cases.. it wasn't necessarily sexual.
I haven't seen Across the Universe, but I highly doubt it. Considering the subject matter of Titanic and the MPAA possible wanting a larger audience to be able to see it, I can understand that one. But again, that was 11 years ago. Ratings laws are more stringent nowadays.

Ferris Bueler's Day Off is a PG movie that contains a few f words and plenty of everything else, but because it was carefree and also 1986, it didn't matter.

But like I said, things have changed. Every recent movie that's PG-13 I can almost guarantee you will not have more than one f word. Guarantee. The only one I know of that is recent that doesn't really count is the movie '16 Blocks', when David Morse's character yells "F*CK THE TRUTH!"- which is played (the same audio clip from the same take) on a tape recorder at the very end of the movie.

And that one itself is a stretch to call '2 f-words'. What movies are you thinking of? I'm not saying I agree wholeheartedly with the rating system, but I think they've got a lot of integrity in their ratings choices (G, PG, R, NC-17) and don't think they falter that often.

Regaurdless though, i was surprised at the level of gore allowed in the scene where the lady exploded.. I mean that was quite graphic and definately stood out even after the film ended.
I disagree. I thought the quick whip by it with the camera, no more than a second or two, was not only very realistic but very appropriate. It left the whole situation and death kind of ambiguous and is understandly not that gorey.

SPOILERS, maybe.


As for clarification on that part, the "bite" seemed to make the stomachs or abdomens of people implode- but not necessarily die. They were frantic to get her out of the way, sure. But maybe not to kill here or keep her from spreading it. Maybe they were worried about her imploding everywhere. After all, remember the soldier they pass on the way into the shopping center from the subway? They say "we got another bite" and the guy has his organs spilling out and all, but he still appears to be alive. Maybe Marlena's still alive? unsure
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After all, remember the soldier they pass on the way into the shopping center from the subway? They say "we got another bite" and the guy has his organs spilling out and all, but he still appears to be alive. Maybe Marlena's still alive? unsure
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that he was almost certainly... dead.
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Evman wrote:

Atom wrote:

After all, remember the soldier they pass on the way into the shopping center from the subway? They say "we got another bite" and the guy has his organs spilling out and all, but he still appears to be alive. Maybe Marlena's still alive? unsure
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that he was almost certainly... dead.
Haha, I expected so. But having been taken in by the whole experience the glances with the camera to Marlena and also the soldier passing in front of Hud were so realistically jittery and quick whips I had to think about whether both or either were dead at that point.
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The day has come, the most anticipated movie of the year finally came to the UK cinemas today. Before I go on about the film I’d like to say that although I never followed the anticipation or the movies progress it’s self I somehow had a feeling that from the trailers it would be quite an awesome film. So without further ado, here’s my review.

BIG SPOILERS




So, after the silly adverts at the start we’re introduced to the city, the photos of the main characters and everything else, then there’s the walking around the party scene which was pretty good to watch but felt a bit long. So, Rob walks out into the party and everyone’s greeting him etc, problems erupt and people start spreading rumours then suddenly…BOOM! Cue the monsters rampage.

When we first see an actual explosion and the camera begins to cut, cut, cut, jump, jitter, cut while running for cover it is just amazing, I was sat there thinking, wow that is fantastic. The sudden stops in sound and the continuous handheld camera movement makes the scene twice as amazing and really gives you that feeling of tension and makes you feel as if your there. I’m going to skip ahead a few scenes now and go straight to the part where they are in the subway, Quite a longwinded area of the film but also shows us how the actors are feeling at that stage. Later on they decide to walk along the railway lines and begin to hear noises and a fantastic composition shot as soon as the night vision is turned on is ruined when an amazing quick paced battle sequence erupts between the little spider like monsters.

Then we go onto the army campsite which…was very bright, very clean and sterile and also very busy. Before they entered the army/medical room I was hoping they weren’t going to be the last humans alive amd luckily they weren’t. So yeah they’re soon running from the mini monsters again and then going to a building. Now the building journey was once again like the subway longwinded but then once they got to the army shooting the monster we get a better shot of the monster and there’s me sat there thinking, “It’s a mix of Godzilla, a fly and a gorilla and possibly a spider” which then attacks the guys in helicopter and sends them down leaving them to scream “Holy s**t, Holy s**t Holy s**t”.

Well that’s all I’ll say. The movie was way better than I had expected and using handheld camera all the way through and no music score made it absolutely phenomenal to watch and the acting was top notch. This is something I’ll watch over and over and I am glad they mystery behind the monster was never revealed and hopefully won‘t be, and never before have I ever given a professionally made movie five stars so here goes…

5/5

And I don’t really want to see a sequel as the ending was great as well.

B3N
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Possible spoilers...

Just got back from seeing and thought it was fantastic. I expected it to be good and tonights experience really didn't disappoint once. As I came out I said to my wife "I'm not watching that film again until we have a huge HD TV and a Surround Sound system setup". If you're not seeing this in the pics I'd suggest anyone to do the same.

Watch this film as I really think it's one of a kind at the moment. I like the idea of a sequel being filmed from a different person through the same timeline of the film and maybe further past the ending of this one, would definitely check it out.

As for the monster, I didn't expect that design but was very happy with it. The scene where the get caught up between the army and the monster itself was fantastic and I love the fact they couldn't really hurt it.

It's been a while since I saw the Host but from my memory the Cloverfield monster reminds me alot of the Hosts monster, anyone seen the Host and agree?
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SOME SPOILERS

Saw the movie last night with my girlfriend. Both of us agreed the movie itself was awesome, however she felt very dizzy after. She may have been exaggerating a little bit, but she honestly felt disoriented after all the camera shake. I thought the camera shake was a bit much in some areas. I feel like if you handed a camera to any average Joe on the streets and told him to run around while filming, he could better. I understand that they were being chased by monsters and what not, but if film critics and viewers were complaining about actually feeling sick while watching the film, I think they could have toned it down a bit.
However, the movie was really something special. I thought it was clever when the camera would turn off every once in a while and you would get a quick clip of the tape he was recording over.
One part I thought was a bit odd was at the end before they hid under the bridge and the camera man looks up and the alien is above him. I feel as though the alien looks at him far too long before eating him. The monster's had no trouble destroying the city, but then he pauses for 10 seconds to look at a kid with a camera before eating him. Just seemed to break the mood a little bit. It kind of broke my "suspension of disbelief". But besides that and a slightly monotonous beginning I really have no complaints. Very interesting movie, very clever ideas, I really enjoyed it. 9/10.

Oh yeah, and whoever said that their only complaint would be of how many amateur filmmakers are going to try to recreate it: I agree, I'm not looking forward to that!
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DavidLittlefield wrote:

Oh yeah, and whoever said that their only complaint would be of how many amateur filmmakers are going to try to recreate it: I agree, I'm not looking forward to that!
There's no question about it; there will be parodies, remakes, and "amateur" versions of it. However, I doubt any teenager is going to have a high end CG programs, or a slew of U.S. soldiers and tanks at their disposal. razz
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King of Blades wrote:

DavidLittlefield wrote:

Oh yeah, and whoever said that their only complaint would be of how many amateur filmmakers are going to try to recreate it: I agree, I'm not looking forward to that!
There's no question about it; there will be parodies, remakes, and "amateur" versions of it. However, I doubt any teenager is going to have a high end CG programs, or a slew of U.S. soldiers and tanks at their disposal. razz
What they will be able to try out though, is shaky-cam! Done bad. wink
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Whoa! I just got back from watching this film.

Lived up to and perhaps exceeded my expectations. Massively exciting with some of the most impressive visual effects I have ever seen. I am extremely glad I went to see this in a cinema, what an amazing experience!

-Hybrid.
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Cloverfield Or "Godzilla: The Redshirts Chronicles".

I like the idea of the expendable human tonnage being the main characters, and I thought it was fairly well put together, but swap the alien for a mutant lizard and suddenly there's Matthew Broderick as the worm guy and Hank Azaria as the professional cameraman. It was fun though.

**SPOILERS**

Things I liked:

  • The statue of liberty head. In the trailers I'd seen it looked ropey, but it was fine on the night.
  • The hilarious exploding of Marlena. I cackled out loud.
  • Hud's comments and running commentary.
  • The artful product placement. the only brand I noticed was Nokia.
  • Although there were a couple of places where it dragged, especially at the start, the pacing wasn't too bad.

Things I didn't like:

  • Every time there was CGI, the shaky camera suddenly became remarkably steady.
  • That in the subway all four were mauled in some way by the little aliens but only Marlena exploded.
  • The perpetual whining, and that the only female character who didn't whimper and constantly need rescuing was exploded.
  • When they survived the helicopter crash.
  • When Hud was shaken around by the big monster like he was a giant rubber bone.


Incidentally, it's supposedly shot on an SD camcorder, and yet old video appears here and there. Does that happen on SD? I would have thought it'd be a case of replacing files...
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**SPOILERS**

I agree with most of what you said, though...

CurtinParloe wrote:


Things I didn't like:

  • That in the subway all four were mauled in some way by the little aliens but only Marlena exploded.
- Only Marlena was bitten. Which we assume is how they critters impregnate.

  • When they survived the helicopter crash.
  • - Helicopter crashes are remarkably survivable. Though would a giant creature biting a helicopter really just send it spinning out of control?


    Incidentally, it's supposedly shot on an SD camcorder, and yet old video appears here and there. Does that happen on SD? I would have thought it'd be a case of replacing files...
    - You're right on this one. Stopping recording stops the tape, so unless the tape was wound past where recording last ended - old footage shouldn't still be on the tape. The one time when the 'flashback' was theoretically possible is when Hud first rewinds the tape to show people the monster.

    My only real gripe with the film was that at times it reminded me of say, the men in black ride where you ride around on little carts shooting at monsters. A few moments with the giant monster just felt like they were shots in a movie, which contrasted the almost fly on the wall of a monster attack feel the movie began with.

    I still enjoyed Cloverfield hugely though. smile
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    Hybrid-Halo wrote:

    - Only Marlena was bitten. Which we assume is how they critters impregnate.
    I never thought the spider-dog bites = impregnation. When you get bit by a mosquito there’s a swelling, a chemical reaction to make your blood easier to consume by the bug. I just figure the spider-dogs are doing the same, only their bites are 1000x worse because of having to deal with deep-sea monster blood.
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    **Spoilers**

    Kovacs wrote:

    Hybrid-Halo wrote:

    - Only Marlena was bitten. Which we assume is how they critters impregnate.
    I never thought the spider-dog bites = impregnation. When you get bit by a mosquito there’s a swelling, a chemical reaction to make your blood easier to consume by the bug. I just figure the spider-dogs are doing the same, only their bites are 1000x worse because of having to deal with deep-sea monster blood.
    The reason for my assumption with this is mainly the way Marlena is treated when they reach the army installation. "We've got a bite! We've got a bite!" isn't something that the army soldiers would have shouted if bites were of no consequence, is it?

    -Hybrid.
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    Hybrid-Halo wrote:

    **SPOILERS**

    I agree with most of what you said, though...

    - Only Marlena was bitten. Which we assume is how they critters impregnate.
    Granted, she was definitely bitten, but it looked like they had their teeth in everyone, to be honest. And I like the mosquito idea, they took her into somewhere she could burst less messily, and there was no gunfire afterwards to kill a baby creature. then again, if they're deep-sea creatures, I'd expect them to burst in such a low-pressure environment anyway...

    - Helicopter crashes are remarkably survivable. Though would a giant creature biting a helicopter really just send it spinning out of
    It just seemed odd that three civilians survived and the military crew died. Then again, if they're daft enough to fly in circles around a giant monster...
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    ***Spoilers***

    CurtinParloe wrote:

    It just seemed odd that three civilians survived and the military crew died. Then again, if they're daft enough to fly in circles around a giant monster...
    Yeah, no kidding on that one.

    I think we're branching into strange territory regarding the bite discussion! I'm pretty sure we're meant to believe that a bite = impregnation/destruction of some sort. I agree that the bugs were over everyone, though in the brief lull afterwards where they examine their wounds only Marlena is bitten.

    The exact science of this isn't certain, and isn't really meant to be. One of the great facets of this film is that even the military are more or less clueless as to what they are fighting other than bites are bad and people who are bitten need to be taken away from the healthy.

    We're never shown if something hatches or not, the critter doesn't stop attacking Marlena after it has bitten her and our only hint of something being born is the corpse of the soldier wheeled past with his chest open, suggesting that something exited that way in a hurry.

    I'm kind of glad to be left in the dark, as it means that the conspiracy theories which the trailers started is still very much alive. Even Hud at stages suggests that maybe this was the governments doing etc etc.

    This really is typical style J.J.Abrahms conspiracy heroine.

    -Hybrid.
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    One part I thought was a bit odd was at the end before they hid under the bridge and the camera man looks up and the alien is above him. I feel as though the alien looks at him far too long before eating him. The monster's had no trouble destroying the city, but then he pauses for 10 seconds to look at a kid with a camera before eating him
    Ahh yes but something you have to remember is that they could have been recreating one of those monster senses. Quite a few monster films I've seen involves a monster looking down on a person but mostly the reason for this is because the monster needs to sense someone is there and usually staying still is a way to hide your senses or something. So I think that's what happened there and then it picked up a sense and ate him.

    Another thing though in that scene that made me think "whoa, wait a second" was after the cameraman was thrown into the air and landed dead the monster would have still been stood there so why did it not attack Rob and the woman who ran towards him. I understand it took them about 7 or 8 seconds before they ran to him but surely the monster would have spotted them or something.

    I'm kind of glad to be left in the dark, as it means that the conspiracy theories which the trailers started is still very much alive. Even Hud at stages suggests that maybe this was the governments doing etc etc.
    I agree with you as well. I love it when your left in the dark witha film like this.

    Also who else thought "that camera can take a lotta damage" smile

    -Regards
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    Pretty kewl flick I would love to see a follow up movie in film style that has nothing to do with the guys with the camera but you do catch a few glimpses of them running in the background or something.

    Other than that the monster I thought was very original it's eye's looked like gills or something. 0_o
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    Personally I thought it was alright, but here is the review of a friend I saw it with who was... less than impressed:

    'complete bol**cks'

    I personally did find it annoying that nothing was explained at the end. Did the monster die? Or if i went to Manhatten would it still be there now? biggrin etc.
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    Link123456 wrote:

    I personally did find it annoying that nothing was explained at the end. Did the monster die? Or if i went to Manhatten would it still be there now? biggrin etc.
    You should have watched until the end of the credits.
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    Maybe I'm outta line here since I'm new and haven't been filmmaking since about age 21 MANY years ago, but it was because of the first few posts in this thread that I decided to see this movie.

    I didn't find this movie special in any way as far as how it was filmed and the whole Internet buzz before hand. Blair Witch was brillant and not in a filmmaking way either, but because of the way they did the marketing. They made a boat load of money vs. what they spent on that project. It still amazes me how many people thought it was all real because it was "On the Internet". I wish I could had been involved in that one.

    Hence, this movie missed being brillant by a few years.

    I was at it last night. It just opened here this past Friday. Saturday night there were 8 people in the theatre when a co-worker went and last night there were two of us. It didn't make the grade in this city.

    The camera shake was far, far to overdone. I didn't feel dizzy watching it, but when I got home I felt my eyes twitching for a good hour. The first part of the movie was so long and boring that my friend suggested we switch theatres and watch Juno instead. I knew there was going to be a love it or hate it ending in advance, but I didn't realize just how much suck the ending would really have. Really, they were all rather stupid for what they did and probably deserved to die as a result. I had a hard time really feeling much sympathy.

    Now, all that said, I will say that this movie could still yet be brillant - at least from a marketing standpoint. IF the next movie(s) tell the same story from different cameras and people slowly building to where we finally get the big picture then it is brillant so long as people will keep shelling out their cash to watch the same thing over and over just to get the whole story. I think that would be a brillant on the part of the producers. I can't think of any other movie series that could have done this.

    In a way, no surprise, it could easily set itself up like Lost. We invest a lot of time just waiting to find out the rest of the story there as well.

    I could get into this story with this type of movie making.

    Oddly enough, the mystery of it all grew with me over the last 24 hours. I actually dreamt about it (never happens with a movie with me) and found myself speculating on some of the details during the day today. Didn't see the hit in the water at the end and didn't stick around to hear the "It's still alive" (pretty tough to sit there when it is the last show of the night and the staff is pretty much waiting for the only two people left in the place to get up and leave). It didn't really matter either way. So, in the end I enjoyed it and gave me something to think about.

    I'd probably not watch it again until it comes on free TV, but if there is another "version" sooner than later I'd head to the theatre to see more of the bigger picture. I just don't care to wait 7 years like Lost is turning into and I want a final payoff when it is over.

    Bart
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    CurtinParloe

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    Hybrid-Halo wrote:


    You should have watched until the end of the credits.
    Yeah, it was well worth the wait tard
    Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008, 5:54pm

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    Well I just went to see it and I really enjoyed it. I have always been a person who ignores the critics and made my own mind up. There have been a lot of comments going around that put you off seeing it the main ones are

    1. Its very confusing you don't know what is going on

    2. You don't actually see what is attacking the city

    3. The camera shakes too much.

    Well after watching it I have no idea where these comments are coming from because

    1. It is not confusing A big godzilla type beast that spits out mini beasts wanders around the city destroying buildings and the people are forced to evacuate. There is nothing confusing about that, so people must be really dumb not to get the film.

    2. Whoever said you don't see the monster must be blind or wasn't watching the film, You see exactly what it is and even get a perfect face shot of the beast. You do have to watch closely because the views change pretty quickly and sometimes the beast is obscured by buildings, camera shake or explosions, but you do see exactly what it looks like

    3. Yes the camera does shake because -Gasp- Its filmed on a hand held camcorder and is shown as a first person perspective and when you are running down a street to evade tons of debris moving at 200 mph or are about to be stamped on by a 120 foot beast you are not going to be exactly mr steadycam.

    I really did enjoy it and the end left it open for another film. I was very impressed with the motion tracking work that went into this, because there are a lot of explosions, cgi and stuff on screen when the camera is shaking all over the place.
    Posted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008, 6:10pm

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    Hybrid-Halo wrote:

    Link123456 wrote:

    I personally did find it annoying that nothing was explained at the end. Did the monster die? Or if i went to Manhatten would it still be there now? biggrin etc.
    You should have watched until the end of the credits.
    Huh? What? What did I miss?
    Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 12:41pm

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    SPOILERS THROUGHOUT!

    Well I saw Cloverfield a few days ago and I've gotta say it wasn't as good as I had hoped.
    It seemed hard to watch with all the shaky cam, I mean, I know it's supposed to be shot with someone's camcorder, and they pulled that off well and made it watchable in the beginning but then when the monster came and things started getting more intense you found yourself looking at ridiculously shaky shots that were often of the ground and you really can't tell what's going on, also it was dark, and that made it hard to see to, although one of the reasons it was hard to see might be that the theater that we were at didn't turn all of the lights off. unsure After the movie was over we went into the Rambo movie to see a few minutes of it and see what it was like, it was during what looked to be the last battle in the movie and it had some pretty intense shaky cam, but after Cloverfield the shaky cam didn't seem so shaky, and it was a relief to actually be able to see what was happening.
    The monster was cool, not quite like anything that has been done before, but in the shot where you finally get a good look at him, his head and face don't really look all that different from an average movie monster, also, the CG looked like it could've been a bit better in that shot. I was pretty impressed with the monster in most of the movie, but for me, when they revealed him it didn't quite live up to the hype. Those small monsters were really cool though.
    One of the worst things for me was the ending, it was very abrupt and very undramatic, you might argue that it should be that way because of the style of the movie, but when I see a movie I expect some kind of dramatic ending to it no matter what the style is, it gives you a very odd feeling when you walk out of the theater after seeing an ending like that. Another thing about it was that it didn't resolve the story, it seems to me that there's two stories being told here, one is the story of this group of kids, another is of the giant monster attacking New York, only one of these stories gets resolved, the kids' story But what about the monster? What was it? Where did it come from? Did it die or did it just keep going and destroy the entire world? There isn't an ending, they could've put in some more story and a good resolution to both stories if they didn't decided to abruptly kill off the last two characters.

    Overall I thought it was good, and for the style they could've easily done it a lot worse, but also could've done it better. It was an interesting style, that they managed to tell a story with but it didn't blow me away and it's not something I'd like to see more of.

    EDIT: After looking back at some other peoples posts I saw that some people said that it was intense, I didn't really find that it was that intense, at least not anywhere near as intense as I Am Legend was.