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Blowing my hand off!!

Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 3:11pm

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Pyromarius

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A short clip I made to test some stock footage I recently bought. I added some "swooshes" and text in the beginning of the clip to see how I can use that as an effect for trailers etc.

I used quite long time editing, mainly because of the shadow from the blood, but I think it turned out pretty good!


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Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 3:47pm

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Im not a hge fan of gore but that was pretty sweet. very profesional.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 4:13pm

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that was cool. But the blood was falling at an angle. Gravity doesn't really works like that. But good job with the shadow
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 4:33pm

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Nice job, the shadow looks cool. As RodyPolis said, it seems that the gravity/angle is a bit off. I'd also make the blood and the remaining stump a bit less bright red, as it looks a bit comicy right now smile
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 4:50pm

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The reason why the blood is falling in the wrong direction is that I used stock footage for the blood, and it would be very hard (if not impossible) to edit and adjust the gravity/direction of the blood.

But I'm glad you liked it and thanks for replying!
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 5:02pm

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Where did you get your blood stock footage from?
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 5:43pm

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JackPot wrote:

Where did you get your blood stock footage from?
I could be wrong but the initial blood explosion from the hand and the splatter on the wall look like video co-pilot. I think the gushing that followed from the hand was Detonation Films.

Was I right? Do I get a prize? biggrin
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 7:07pm

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Not bad, not bad at all. The shadow was a very nice touch, and the blood stump stayed well tracked with your arm. For a test using stock footage, this was very nice.
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 7:31pm

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Heey that was pretty good! with the shadow and everything.

Other than the blood being at an angle.

Maybe a particle effect could be added to make some of the blood fall from the arm.

But anyway Cool test! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 22nd Jan 2008, 11:22pm

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BCNproductions wrote:

JackPot wrote:

Where did you get your blood stock footage from?
I could be wrong but the initial blood explosion from the hand and the splatter on the wall look like video co-pilot. I think the gushing that followed from the hand was Detonation Films.

Was I right? Do I get a prize? biggrin
Yes, that's right wink

I used stock footage from videocopilot (action movie essentials) and detonationfilms!
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 1:10am

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Hahaha, was that ricochet from Halo?

Nice job on the clip.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 1:37am

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JackPot wrote:

Where did you get your blood stock footage from?
Hehe, the same place where he read the tutorial on how to make those titles razz

The Shadow's a nice touch, though there's a lack of things you could have added to sell what is in essence, a really simple effect.

Here are my suggestions:
Removing the stock spurts and replacing them with some particles to simulate the fluid falling/reacting correctly will help sell the effect.

Perhaps a blood splatter on the wall for good measure. I'm pretty sure shooting your hand off next to a wall close enough to cast a 95% scale shadow on is close enough for some blood splatter.

Flesh doesn't suddenly become liquid when it's shot, and it's unlikely for a hand to come off at the wrist. Though these are both very picky of me considering this is just a test you did for fun. razz

Finally, are we to believe that you did your titling in After Effects whilst doing all the work which is taught in an after effects tutorial in an FXhome program - which is a requirement of the cinema?

In any case, keep up the work and you'll only improve. Perhaps try something a bit more large scale like a sky replacement to improve on your compositing skills.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 2:37pm

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Hybrid-Halo wrote:

Finally, are we to believe that you did your titling in After Effects whilst doing all the work which is taught in an after effects tutorial in an FXhome program - which is a requirement of the cinema?
It's true that I used AE for the titles. And since the stock footage from detonationfilms had a white background, I also did the blood spurts in AE because Effectslab don't have "multiply" as a blending option.

I'm pretty new to AE, and among the tutorials I got when I bought Action Movie Essentials there were none that described the effect I wanted, so I did the rest (shadow, blood-explosion, muzzleflash and bloodsplatter) in Effectslab.

ops101ex wrote:

Hahaha, was that ricochet from Halo?
I don't know about Halo, but one of their blood-explosions is used in Call of Duty 4: http://www.videocopilot.net/blog/?p=104


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Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 4:09pm

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Gory but very good! I liked it.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 6:17pm

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Nice work. Andrew Kramer has taught you well. smile
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 10:14pm

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Great job. The only thing being is that a gun wouldn't blow your hand off but other than that small factor nice job. It looked pretty good.


Just curious, but what software did you use for the titles?
Posted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2008, 10:20pm

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Biblmac wrote:

Great job. The only thing being is that a gun wouldn't blow your hand off but other than that small factor nice job. It looked pretty good.


Just curious, but what software did you use for the titles?
I know the gun wouldn't actually blow away my entire hand, but I made this just as a fun test, so I chose to make it all disappear wink

And for the titles, I used After Effects
Posted: Thu, 24th Jan 2008, 2:53pm

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The reason why the blood is falling in the wrong direction is that I used stock footage for the blood
That's why there's so many different kinds of stock footage for all kinds of purpuses. If the angle's wrong, it was simply the wrong stock for that shot - or the wrong shot for that stock, depending on the way you look at it.

I liked the shadow effect on this, but agree that the blood color is too bright and the off angle gives the effect away quite easily. Good job on the tracking and masking though. For a first test, I like it.
Posted: Fri, 25th Jan 2008, 11:57pm

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I think that this clip is a good example of what Fxhome can easily do.

However, there are some things that I have noticed like the fact that the blood dose not react to gravity, the gun has no recoil and it discharges no shell.

Also he had more of a "Some one just dropped ice down my pants." look than a "OUCH! I just blow my own hand off for no good reason."

Over All: Good
Posted: Sat, 26th Jan 2008, 6:55pm

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HI Pretty cool! I love stock footage! nr1 use some more blood... actually alot more blood. Gives a better effect. nr2 I could hear that you've got the sound effect by the gun from therecordist.com, and I think you could have used much better soundeffects and turn it up a little. I didn't really get the feeling of the guns power. But a VERY good job! hope you can use my commentary. Keep it up! you've got talent!
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 11:36pm

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That's why there's so many different kinds of stock footage for all kinds of purpuses. If the angle's wrong, it was simply the wrong stock for that shot - or the wrong shot for that stock, depending on the way you look at it. I liked the shadow effect on this, but agree that the blood color is too bright and the off angle gives the effect away quite easily. Good job on the tracking and masking though. For a first test, I like it.
- Sollthar

I agree with Sollthar, if you are doing greenscreen(for example) you may have the lighting straight on you so you dont have an shadows sticking out to the left or right but if the camera is even slightly to the left and can see a lot of shadows its your angles and can be a big pain when keying the FX in it in. So you always want to take precautions when it comes to angles and where your shooting from. Out of all I was impressed with how this test cam eout REALLY good for a try.
Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2008, 7:49pm

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Pyromarius wrote:

because Effectslab don't have "multiply" as a blending option.
Hi there,

for this you can "Invert" the Clip and then turn the Hue ("Hue shift") about 180 degress. So you got stil red blood and black background.

Regards!