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Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 9:30am

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Ain't It Cool is reporting that Guillermo Del Toro is pencilled in to direct the two-part The Hobbit adapation, with Peter Jackson producing. Del Toro's had a fascinating career, starting off with the superb horror films Cronos and The Devil's Backbone before making a slightly wobbly move to Hollywood with Mimic and Blade 2. Following that he really hit his stride with the spot-on comic adaptation of Hellboy and the beautiful, award-winning Pan's Labyrinth.

The Hobbit is in good hands.
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 12:42pm

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Ooh, that's some great news! Can't wait until it "properly" goes into production! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 2:42pm

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Awesome. It'll be dark and gory and rather epic now.

What a great choice for director. I'd put my toe out and say he could possibly do a better job than Jackson if he is given freedom!
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 2:48pm

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Doug Jones as Smaug!
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 6:03pm

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That's interesting news! I know nothing about the hobbit, but I can imagine del Toro doing an excellent job on the subject, if it's anything like the LotR films. Pan's Labyrinth was beautyful and Mimic is an impressive "more then it should be" kinda horror movie. Though I wasn't a big fan of Blade 2 or Hellboy myself, but The Devil's Backbone was great too.

I'll be definately keeping my eye on this
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 8:10pm

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Not particularly sure how this will pan out. The Hobbit WAS intended to be a children's story (as opposed to LOTR), and I dunno if del Toro's style will suit that very well. On the other hand, I loved Pan's Labyrinth, and greatly hope that he'll be able to retain the magic of that film while obviously toning it down to a PG-13 rating.

I just wish PJ would go ahead and direct it. That's another thing... I'm assuming Fran Walsh/Phillipa Boyens will be writing, or someone of close association to PJ... I assume that means there will be no writer's strike issues to worry about?
Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 9:56pm

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Mr. Del Toro is a fine choice in my opinion. With Peter Jackson watching his back I hope he'll get the creative freedom to put his stamp on the films and add another brace of fine films to his impressive collection.

Like so many, I grew up reading 'The Hobbit' and I think it has the potential to make an awesome film (or 2).
I shall wait with baited breath....

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Posted: Mon, 28th Jan 2008, 10:24pm

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Hm, I'm disappointed. I was looking forward to The Hobbit... I've never been a fan of Del Toro's style. Ah well...! I might just rent it once it goes on DVD.

I'm not happy with the decision to make it into 2 movies, either. The Hobbit is one story, not two. And it's not like if it were a 1000-page book! (But even then, Order of the Phoenix was based on a 900-page book, and Yates managed to make a 2h20m movie out of it!)

Anyway, that's just my opinion!

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Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 12:37am

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Plainly wrote:


I'm not happy with the decision to make it into 2 movies, either. The Hobbit is one story, not two. And it's not like if it were a 1000-page book! (But even then, Order of the Phoenix was based on a 900-page book, and Yates managed to make a 2h20m movie out of it!)

Anyway, that's just my opinion!

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The first film only will deal with the story of the Hobbit and will likely be titled "The Hobbit". The other film is a bridge movie between the Hobbit and LOTR. Don't worry, it appears that the Hobbit will remain intact as one film.
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 1:33am

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Hope this turns out good...
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 3:19am

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Evman wrote:

Plainly wrote:


I'm not happy with the decision to make it into 2 movies, either. The Hobbit is one story, not two. And it's not like if it were a 1000-page book! (But even then, Order of the Phoenix was based on a 900-page book, and Yates managed to make a 2h20m movie out of it!)

Anyway, that's just my opinion!

Plainly
The first film only will deal with the story of the Hobbit and will likely be titled "The Hobbit". The other film is a bridge movie between the Hobbit and LOTR. Don't worry, it appears that the Hobbit will remain intact as one film.
Ahh... OK, thanks, I didn't get that part! smile
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 9:23am

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Evman wrote:

Not particularly sure how this will pan out. The Hobbit WAS intended to be a children's story (as opposed to LOTR), and I dunno if del Toro's style will suit that very well. On the other hand, I loved Pan's Labyrinth, and greatly hope that he'll be able to retain the magic of that film while obviously toning it down to a PG-13 rating.
I think he'll be able to adapt his style to a children's story without too much trouble. Just because he's specialised in 15 and 18 certificate movies to date doesn't mean that's all he can do.

I'm curious about the 2nd 'bridge' movie, though. Between the Hobbit and LotR, in my understanding, not much happens. Bilbo sits around drinking beer and not getting any older, Gandalf gads about the place in blissful ignorance, Aragorn slinks about the countryside being all emo about his heritage, and Gollum sneaks through mountains eating fish.

There is, of course, loads of other Middle-Earth stuff to tell, but isn't most of it pre-Hobbit? ie, Silmarillion, Children of Hurin etc.
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 3:12pm

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Tarn wrote:

I'm curious about the 2nd 'bridge' movie, though. Between the Hobbit and LotR, in my understanding, not much happens. Bilbo sits around drinking beer and not getting any older, Gandalf gads about the place in blissful ignorance, Aragorn slinks about the countryside being all emo about his heritage, and Gollum sneaks through mountains eating fish.
Maybe they'll format it like a BBC sitcom!
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 3:40pm

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Tarn wrote:

I'm curious about the 2nd 'bridge' movie, though. Between the Hobbit and LotR, in my understanding, not much happens. Bilbo sits around drinking beer and not getting any older, Gandalf gads about the place in blissful ignorance, Aragorn slinks about the countryside being all emo about his heritage, and Gollum sneaks through mountains eating fish.
I dunno, that sounds like a pretty exciting movie to me.
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 3:42pm

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Jabooza wrote:

Tarn wrote:

I'm curious about the 2nd 'bridge' movie, though. Between the Hobbit and LotR, in my understanding, not much happens. Bilbo sits around drinking beer and not getting any older, Gandalf gads about the place in blissful ignorance, Aragorn slinks about the countryside being all emo about his heritage, and Gollum sneaks through mountains eating fish.
I dunno, that sounds like a pretty exciting movie to me.
Now I think about it, maybe they should get Will Ferrell to make it? That could work pretty well.

Leslie Nielsen as Gandalf. He should be there at Frodo's birth, to say "I just want you to know, we're all counting on you."
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 10:04pm

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Prediction: they split the Hobbit story then have a slow RotK-like ending bridging the Hobbit and Fellowship using Tolkien's notes and stuff.

Nothing is set in stone, they very well could split the story.
Posted: Tue, 29th Jan 2008, 10:07pm

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They'd better not.

Also, this is the only site that I've seen say that this thing is near definite. Not sure of the reliability of Ain't It Cool News here.
Posted: Wed, 30th Jan 2008, 7:10am

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I'm still hoping the hype around Del Toro doing the two Half-Blood Prince movies is true. While I don't particularly love just watching his style of movies, the cool, technically-proficient, and bizarre eye of Del Toro is and has been more suited to direct a Harry Potter film more than any other.
Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2008, 2:38am

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Atom,

Well... no, it's not true. Yates announced some 6 months ago that he was directing Half-Blood Prince. Del Toro did, however, say that he had interest in directing Deathly Hallows. Unfortunately (for people who'd like Del Toro, that is), if Yates decides that he wants to do Hallows, too, then Warner Bros will give it to him (it has always been the director's choice whether he wants to direct the next one or not).

And yes, Yates has hinted that he'll probably be staying for Hallows.

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EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention: HBP will only be one movie.
Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2008, 11:01am

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Atom wrote:

I'm still hoping the hype around Del Toro doing the two Half-Blood Prince movies is true. While I don't particularly love just watching his style of movies, the cool, technically-proficient, and bizarre eye of Del Toro is and has been more suited to direct a Harry Potter film more than any other.
Nope. I've heard that Potter will be directed by Alfonso Cuarón....

No wait, that was the last book. Deathly Hallows.
Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2008, 6:51pm

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Nope. I've heard that Potter will be directed by Alfonso Cuarón....

No wait, that was the last book. Deathly Hallows.
Rotten Tomatoes UK recently caught up with Prisoner of Azkaban director Alfonso Cuaron and spoke to him about his feelings on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, and asked the director if he had any interest in returning to direct the film of the last Harry Potter book. Saying he has just begun reading “Deathly Hallows”, Alfonso Cuaron gave the following answer about his feelings if he were to be offered a directing position for the film adaptation of the book:

“You know, it was such a great opportunity and such a beautiful two years and everything around Harry Potter – JK Rowling’s creation – is enveloped in this really beneficial energy. I got the benefits of that energy for those two years. So yes I’d be very tempted to do so even though, at this point, I feel a little bit like I have to try to do the films that are not going to exist without me. On the same token, I would be really tempted because it was really beautiful. I just started reading the last book and something I respect is the care the producers have put in the film franchise. It would have been so easy after the success of the series just to take the cynical approach of knowing that no matter what people are going to see those movies. Actually they’ve been taking a lot of care from beginning to end, so yeah I would be really tempted.”
There is actally a petition to bring him back. I hope they don't though, personally. Even though PoA was good as a movie, it just didn't respect the book enough - ruined characters, scenes... massive destrction, IMO. wink

There is news today regarding a possible director for the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows film. As we have been reporting, director Guillermo Del Toro has repeatedly expressed an interest in directing the final Harry Potter film, however today Potter producer David Heyman says this will not be the case. Empire magazine reports that they recently spoke with Mr. Heyman who “that Del Toro was sadly not really in the running because “he’s rather busy.” The Hollywood Reporter has an article today stating that Mr. Del Toro is in talks to helm the widely anticipated The Hobbit films (with Peter Jackson producing), and this would not permit enough time for Guillermo Del Toro to take on the Harry Potter film as well. As announced previously, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is due in movie theaters sometime in 2010.
Well, this pretty much confirms what I've said before... as does this (sorta):

Okay, everyone, HPANA has a new post talking about how the WB plans to make an announcement on the director for Deathly Hallows soon as well as talk about the rumors of splitting the movie in half. While they weren't given any specific answer, HPANA says this:

Having just returned from the set of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince today at Leavesden Studios, HPANA was told by producer David Barron that an announcement in the near future could address who is directing Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows as well as answer rumors about splitting the final film into two parts.

While not confirmed at today's visit to the eight-acre home of the Potter films outside of London, this editor's impression was that David Yates will likely direct Deathly Hallows and the film may very well be split as rumored. The upcoming announcement may answer one or both of these rumors
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Posted: Thu, 31st Jan 2008, 8:04pm

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It's a tough call. Both the 5th and 3rd HP movies are so incredibly well-executed and cut down in entirely different ways. And it's hard to say which is better because the 5th one opted for a PG-13 rating likely right off the bat.

I'd be happy to bring Cuaron back, definitely. I still love to turn on the TV and catch parts of Azkaban on the Disney channel or ABC. If they were opting for a new director, I'd definitely say give Del Toro a chance. Hallows is what I meant to say, as well. I remember hearing Yates was definitely confirmed for Prince.

Either way, I think they are all going to turn out great in the end, no matter which excellent director for the genre they choose. It's unfortunate that HP has lost some of it's pizzazz and momentum it garnered from me when I was younger, even though the movies seem to move in maturity, complexity, and darkness along with my age (which is nice), because otherwise I would be pumped.

Narnia, Harry Potter, LORT. Who would've thought all 3 series would all end up being virtual slam dunk movie franchises- both in quality and grossings, huh? I hope Del Toro does Hobbit and Andrew Adamson stays on with Narnia, too.
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Why wouldn't you want it to be 2 movies?!?!?

you make it sound as if you can get enough of it!

i would happly go see two more 2 hours a piece tolkien movies!
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Del Toro is official. Yay!
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2008, 3:03am

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Tarn wrote:

I'm curious about the 2nd 'bridge' movie, though. Between the Hobbit and LotR, in my understanding, not much happens. Bilbo sits around drinking beer and not getting any older, Gandalf gads about the place in blissful ignorance, Aragorn slinks about the countryside being all emo about his heritage, and Gollum sneaks through mountains eating fish.
Nerd time:

-Gandalf and the other wizards cast Sauron ("The Necromancer") out of Mirkwood
-Aragorn helps Gandalf catch Gollum in the dead marshes, where they interrogate him.
-Sauron moves to Mordor and attacks Gondor a few times (I think).
-Saruman becomes evil.

I still don't know how they plan to make a good story out of that mess though. I'd much rather see The Silmarillion or one of Tolkien's other books made into a movie. Nothing will ever beat LOTR, though; mainly because most of Tolkien's other stuff is too complicated to make into a good movie.
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Del Toro is one of my favourite directors. But I'm underwhelmed by him doing The Hobbit. We probably won't see a style that diverges from Jackson's vision too much, as opposed to what Cuaron brought to Potter.

As a Hobbit fan, I've no doubt Del Toro will be great for the movie. As a Del Toro fan - I'd much rather see him do HP Lovecraft, or a different kind of movie.
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Merrick World wrote:

Nerd time:
I'll see your nerd, and raise you a geek!

-Gandalf and the other wizards cast Sauron ("The Necromancer") out of Mirkwood
-Sauron moves to Mordor and attacks Gondor a few times (I think).
Hmmm...didn't both of those happen LONG before The Hobbit? I could be wrong, though - I'm by no means a Tolkein lore expert. razz

-Aragorn helps Gandalf catch Gollum in the dead marshes, where they interrogate him.
Isn't that supposed to have happened between Bilbo's birthday party at the start of LotR, and Gandalf's return to warn Frodo and get the quest going? That's how he knows that Gollum squealed to Sauron & co about the whereabouts of the Ring. After all, Gandalf would have no real reason to get medieval on Gollum's ass until he finally twigs about the Ring.

In other words, this is an implicit part of the existing LotR films, not something that could go into the 'bridge'.

-Saruman becomes evil.
Now, THAT's something that could be pretty interesting. The only problem being, of course, that nobody could really do a 'young Christopher Lee' without it being rubbish.

If anything, it would seem to make more sense to make the FIRST film based on the pre-Hobbit mythology, setting up Middle-Earth and the first battle, maybe even go into more detail regarding the first defeat of Sauron and the breaking of Narsil etc that we see in lots of flashbacks in LotR. Then the SECOND film could be The Hobbit, leading directly into the original LotR trilogy.

That'd be pretty cool.
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Tarn wrote:


-Gandalf and the other wizards cast Sauron ("The Necromancer") out of Mirkwood
-Sauron moves to Mordor and attacks Gondor a few times (I think).
Hmmm...didn't both of those happen LONG before The Hobbit? I could be wrong, though - I'm by no means a Tolkein lore expert. razz
No. Now that I think of it, it happens during the Hobbit. Gandalf leaves the company, throws out Sauron with the help of the other wizards, then meets Bilbo in time to walk him home!

-Aragorn helps Gandalf catch Gollum in the dead marshes, where they interrogate him.
Isn't that supposed to have happened between Bilbo's birthday party at the start of LotR, and Gandalf's return to warn Frodo and get the quest going? That's how he knows that Gollum squealed to Sauron & co about the whereabouts of the Ring. After all, Gandalf would have no real reason to get medieval on Gollum's ass until he finally twigs about the Ring.

In other words, this is an implicit part of the existing LotR films, not something that could go into the 'bridge'.
You're right! evil

If anything, it would seem to make more sense to make the FIRST film based on the pre-Hobbit mythology, setting up Middle-Earth and the first battle, maybe even go into more detail regarding the first defeat of Sauron and the breaking of Narsil etc that we see in lots of flashbacks in LotR. Then the SECOND film could be The Hobbit, leading directly into the original LotR trilogy.

That'd be pretty cool.
That'd be awesome! Maybe it could span from the forging of the ring up to the Last Alliance. Then we'd have a whole movie history of the ring, from beginning to end. biggrin
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There's a pretty good (and very long) interview with Del Toro over at rottentomatoes.com, in which he discusses the upcoming Hobbit movies, among other things.
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While researching something completely unrelated, I stumbled across this old news item.

It made me sad.