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Best Camcorder to Buy

Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 4:13pm

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Hi Guys,

I'm lokking at buying a new camcorder but I am a bit confused what to go for, I have been looking at the Panasonic NV-GS500, but I was wondering if there was a camcorder similiar that records HD or what is the best HD camcorder to get I know there is topics everywhere on this, but I just wanted a little insight, at the moment I am not sure on what the budget is for the camcorder hense why I am asking for advice so I can do some looking aroud.

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Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 4:15pm

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You need to know how much money you have to spend first I'd think - kinda hard to suggest the Panasonic HVX200 if you don't have $6,000 to work with wink
Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 4:17pm

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Ok then, well I suppose the most woud probably be upto £650

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Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 4:36pm

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Canon HV20 - hands down (at least in my little world)

I've got one and you can go to www.hv20.com to see footage examples, pics of them, and people talking about them smile
Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 5:40pm

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Or save up a little bit more and get the Canon HV-30 when it comes out this month and get even better results then with the HV-20 wink.
Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 7:15pm

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I've just been looking at the Canon HV-20 & some of the fottage it produces & really looks amazing, I was just wondering are the results broadcast/professional quality, they look it to me but I am all kinda new to purchasing a new camcorder as I don't really use my current camcorder.

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Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 7:26pm

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The HV-20/30 is going to give you a good professional look but less then then something the Canon XH-A1 or Panasonic HVX200 will give you.

The HV-20/30 is the best way to go for 'more bang for your buck' as they don't cost an arm and a leg.
Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2008, 11:52pm

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For everyday use it'll give you good results, but it may not be as good as 'professional' cameras for things like shallower depth of field, chroma sampling, ruggedness, extra-wide or telephoto shots, etc - it's a good consumer-level camera at a good price - pro stuff can cost a lot more (for instance £22,000 plus another £40,000 for lenses...! Or if you want a Panavision Genesis...well bring your kidneys and your firstborn to the meeting wink
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 7:01am

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Ok thanks, well I really like the look of the HV-20, but the Panasonic NV-GS500 can produce broadcast/professional quality do I go with that or HV-20?

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Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 3:19pm

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Both are good quality cameras... The HV20/30 is HD so costs a little more. It's truly up to you now, I would go with the HV20/30.
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 3:52pm

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These are both nice models I know that my next cam will definitely be HD though.
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 3:55pm

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pdrg - you mention shallow DOF - which is sooooo true... but there are a few 35mm adapters for the HV20 right now and some guys are getting great results - my next investment will be along those lines - they do cost though so consider that - but for that shallow DOF "Film look" it's worth it (and you're still spending less than the HVX200 - which would be my choice if I had that kind of money) smile
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 3:57pm

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sorry for the double post smile

but I had to say that the HV20 would SMOKE that Panasonic NV-GS500

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Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 4:52pm

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GeeksGoneBad wrote:

but I had to say that the HV20 would SMOKE that Panasonic NV-GS500
I wanted to say that.
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 6:35pm

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GeeksGoneBad wrote:

pdrg - you mention shallow DOF - which is sooooo true... but there are a few 35mm adapters for the HV20 right now and some guys are getting great results - my next investment will be along those lines - they do cost though so consider that - but for that shallow DOF "Film look" it's worth it (and you're still spending less than the HVX200 - which would be my choice if I had that kind of money) smile
Even the HVX200 is only (3x) 1/3 inch CCD, your options for a full-size (35mm equivelent) CCD (and the associated DOF) are limited - Best bet is still the Genesis, but you're not going to pick one up casually wink
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 9:12pm

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What do you guys think of the Sony HVR-Z1, Sony HDR-FX1 HDV, Sony HDR-FX7 & Sony HDR-HC3 HDV

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TC
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 9:35pm

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topcat wrote:

What do you guys think of the Sony HVR-Z1, Sony HDR-FX1 HDV, Sony HDR-FX7 & Sony HDR-HC3 HDV

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TC
Can you post links?
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 9:38pm

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The Z1 is semi-pro, HDV, DV, DVCAM, a great little camera - everyone knows it, it's a rock-solid stalwart of the ENG and budget filmmaker crowd.

However, its position is now overtaken by the Sony EX1 - a bit dearer, but everyone really really loves it, and yoiu have a file-based workflow.
Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 9:39pm

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Here they are, it is a US site but I have been incontact with them bout using in the UK & they can give me the same camcorders but in PAL, if I go through this site it means I can get a really good camcorder alot cheaper http://yatmall.com/index.php?cPath=54&osCsid=c80c3350b9aaaeb86851c61638eb5b31

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Posted: Wed, 6th Feb 2008, 11:53pm

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Beware, they've had no reviews on http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Yat_Mall yet, they may well be shysters like most amazing price dealers online.

If you can't afford the price from bhphoto.com (respectable), you can't afford the camera as you'll end up paying extra for all the things the manufacturer provided as standard, the final price can be more (never less) than bhphoto. Also, look at UK prices as you'll have to pay duty, VAT, change the chargers to UK, lose your warranty (or have to return to the US) etc. Seriously, we're not as expensive for electronics as we once were, plus you're covered by UK consumer law!
Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008, 6:38pm

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Hi

Sony HDR-HC7 is a great camera if you're looking for a lot of manual features and good quality.

The HV20 gives a great picture that looks like real film but it doesn't have as many manual features as the HDR-HC7.
Posted: Thu, 7th Feb 2008, 8:04pm

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You won't be able to get any of those Sony cameras for anything less than 1750$ (unless on ebay if you're lucky).

Best bet right now is to get the HV20 or 30.
Posted: Fri, 8th Feb 2008, 11:51am

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YES! pdrg has a really important point that you need to pay attention to - buy from a respectable dealer! do your research before you push that "Pay" button!

I took the "cheap" way out ONCE and got ripped off for $500 - no joke...
Posted: Sun, 10th Feb 2008, 9:14pm

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SilverDragon7 wrote:

You won't be able to get any of those Sony cameras for anything less than 1750$ (unless on ebay if you're lucky).

Best bet right now is to get the HV20 or 30.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129291 Well under his listed budget.

I wouldn't even bother looking for the HVR-Z1, HDR-FX1 HDV or HDR-FX7. If you find them in your price range then theres something fishy going on.
Posted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008, 2:06pm

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well the camera i chose to work with is the cannon xh a1 i wasn't sure at first but i couldn't find one bad thing about this camera on the internet and i havent been let down yet i really think people should get this camera
Posted: Sun, 17th Feb 2008, 10:58pm

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I found an option for you. Here is the thread I posted about a great camera option that I'm considering buying myself.

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33755

Don't know if you're wanting to go with Hi-Def but check it out.