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Posted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008, 9:30pm

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It has just been announced that The Clone Wars will premiere in U.S. theaters on August 15th. The show is basically a CG continuation of the animated series that aired on Cartoon Network before Revenge of the Sith came out. The series will kick off with a full-length movie, and then 30 minute episodes will air on Cartoon Network and TNT in the fall.

Although I am much more excited about the live-action series, I definitely think this show will be worth checking out.

You can view the full article (as well as a sneak peek and a trailer) at http://www.starwars.com/
Posted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008, 9:40pm

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I ven though the characters are stylized, the computer animation looks incredible, I cannot wait for this, but I agree with you, i want the live action show. This almost makes me want to re subscribe to the star wars fan club to get all the sneak peaks you get in the star wars insider
Posted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008, 10:58pm

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Umm.... THEATERS?! WHAT?!?! This looks absolutely terrible and I cannot believe Star Wars has come to this! I really hope you didn't mean to say theaters because it's one thing for this to be a T.V. movie or direct to video release but there's no way this deserves to be in theaters. How could George Lucas let this happen?!?!?!!!

EDIT: I just saw that its true that it's coming to theaters, I can't believe it.
Posted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008, 11:14pm

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Jabooza wrote:

How could George Lucas let this happen?!?!?!!!
I'm convinced George Lucas has either lost his mind or simply doesn't care what the fans say or want. Look how long it took him to finally release the original theatrical versions of the first trilogy... That he said he'd never do because the originals were too degraded... But was oddly good enough to release all of the THX and special editions with.

I read a while back that there was supposed to be a live action Star Wars TV series coming out this year, but haven't heard a word about it since... Kevin Smith was supposed to direct it.
Posted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008, 11:31pm

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Jabooza wrote:

How could George Lucas let this happen?!?!?!!!
Well, he let the prequels happen, so...
Posted: Tue, 12th Feb 2008, 11:44pm

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I really think this TV series is much more about the technology than anything else. George Lucas wanted to do an animated show, using Lucasfilm Animation's new 3D computer animation technology. Keep in mind that this is actually a continuation of the cartoon series, and it is only meant to provide a little history into the Clone Wars (the period between Episodes II and III). There is not much significant storyline there. From what I have heard, Lucas completely oversaw the project and is very excited about it. Fans are also excited about it, as hype about this show has been going on for years now. The series premiere will be a movie, released in theaters. The normal 30 minute episodes will air on Cartoon Network and TNT in the fall.

As for the live-action show, it is definitely moving forward. Lucas has said he hopes to start filming by the end of this year. Unfortunately, he was supposed to start meeting with the writers in early 2008, but that has been delayed by the writers strike.

Worth checking out are the wikipedia articles on both shows.

The CG Clone Wars show:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_%28TV_series%29

The live-action series:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_live-action_TV_series
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 12:11am

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Harvey wrote:

Jabooza wrote:

How could George Lucas let this happen?!?!?!!!
Well, he let the prequels happen, so...
Some people don't like the prequels... OK, A lot of people, I know they may not be quite the same as the originals but I actually found them to be fun, entertaining movies, they didn't have the deepest of plots but I wouldn't call them plotless, there are much worse out there. Episode III is by far my favorite of the prequels.

As for these T.V. shows, I think Star Wars would've been great just to leave it at the movies, just the original and the prequel trilogies, just the SW saga, nothing else.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 1:26am

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You guys have got to be kidding. Clone Wars was absolutely fantastic, slick animation with amazing cinematography (if you could have such in animation), perfect editing, and a nice dialogue-less-ness to it. Like early Samurai Jack episodes.

Clone Wars was the best part of all the prequels if you ask me, and at the hands of the Star Wars CG artists with the same stylized look as Clone wars 2D animation; they've got greatness on their hands. The CG animation looks perfectly fitting. It means they don't have to get bogged down with creating character likenesses to Ewan McGregor or Hayden Christensen but it's all obscure and stylized enough for people not to wonder why it doesn't look like them.

Live-action is likely going to be doubly-disappointing for many reasons. Likeness to the series, budget for effects, actors, etc. It's not as easily pulled off as animation will be as far as look, and it's much more limited in scope. Normally I'd take live-action over animation any day, but after seeing an incredibly convincing and stylized TMNT, I'm convinced it works best on a lower budget.

Hell, I loved the new TMNT for that reason. They took the right route.

And also possibly the only cool and viable way to keep Star Wars going. I'm happy for it, and I'm not even a fan of the sequels. (Although I'm largely disagreed with saying I think Episode I was the best because of it's style and shot-likeness to the original.)

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Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 1:30am

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Wow, I haven't seen a Star Wars topic here in ages ever since FXhome stripped us of our force powers! razz

I watched a little of the 2D series, and it was interesting. You have to understand this show is meant for kids, so there's a bit of a buffer on cheesiness and what not. The style of the show was actually great. I really loved how the characters looked in the older one. We'll see how this turns out with the 3D implemented. I'm actually pretty excited for this!

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Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 1:35am

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I don't know about anyone else, but this looks absolutely badass. Exactly how I would do a Star Wars prequel. Cool stylization and grading.

Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 9:01am

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In the battle between taste and money, money seems to win out too often...

Star Wars is a good old-fashioned western set in space, but with enough extreme hype to mean people have bought into something they possibly wouldn't have if they looked at what they were actually getting in terms of product quality. Post-rationalisation is a powerful effect and a lot of people feel they have to go on liking a franchise in order to mentally justify going along with it for such a long time. This is what lets makers get away with poor films like SW part 2 - films that if released in isolation would bomb heavily.

Where am I going with this ramble? Just to urge you to keep your critical faculties and not let Lucas get away with more lazy/sloppy work. Remember the Star Wars Holiday Special?
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 3:10pm

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Star Wars then:



Star Wars now:

















Yoda then:







Yoda now:



* Jabooza bangs head against wall
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 3:22pm

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Yeah, maybe I am alone on this. But I am tired of the Clone Wars and the adventures of Anakin. The Clone Wars got enough focus with the PT and the games,cartoon,books that were spawned about it. I want a cartoon in this fashion based on Luke, Leia, and Han. Anybody feeling the New Jedi Order book series? That would be incredible.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 7:24pm

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Frosty G wrote:

Yeah, maybe I am alone on this. But I am tired of the Clone Wars and the adventures of Anakin. The Clone Wars got enough focus with the PT and the games,cartoon,books that were spawned about it. I want a cartoon in this fashion based on Luke, Leia, and Han. Anybody feeling the New Jedi Order book series? That would be incredible.
Haha. You seem to think that the games, cartoons, books, and nearly ever facet of memoralbilia haven't been entirely infested with the original Star Wars characters for the 15-20 years prior to the prequels.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 8:20pm

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Is it just me or and I'm not picking on this I just like pointing these things out that Leia did not have a low cut shirt nor did she have a legless dress. Good thing cause she was only 19 when they shot that! 0_0

I love star wars and I look forward to the upcoming series only how can they continue where the cartoon left off when the last episode of the animated series left off with Emperor Palpatine getting kidnapped. I mean the series literally played all the way up to Revenge of the Sith.

0_o

Personaly I would have liked to have seen more of Count Dooku and General Grieves.

A popular quote from mister George Lucas: "Special effects are not the movie, they are simply a way of telling the story."
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 8:35pm

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It seems no matter what, whatever my opinions are about SW, the majority of this community disagrees.

How can everyone here love the original trilogy while I stand up for the prequel trilogy and then love the animated movies when I try to stand up for the live action ones (yes I know, everyone still loves the live action movies [at least the original trilogy] but what I'm saying is that for some strange reason people also seem to like the bad animated shows and that's not right).

I never did watch the Clone Wars animated seres nor did I ever in any way desire to, in my opinion, it and this seres and movie look like stupid, 'kiddified' versions of great movies.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 8:46pm

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Haha yeah... if you think the prequels are horrible and a disgrace to the original movies, then that's your oppinion. But to think that and still like an animated TV spin-off is kind of hypocrisy.

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Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 8:51pm

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Jabooza wrote:

How can everyone here love the original trilogy while I stand up for the prequel trilogy and then love the animated movies when I try to stand up for the live action ones.
I never did watch the Clone Wars animated seres
Er... maybe because we have informed opinions... You also shouldn't take others opinions personally. And in this topic, it seems like everyone is bashing the animated series, or at least this new animated film thing. The Clone Wars series is good quality, try watching it with an open mind. Plugging your ears, shouting, and admitting to being close-minded is going to get you nowhere, especially if you are going to attempt to initiate a debate (that's certainly what it sounds like you are doing).

And for the sake of spiting you: Prequels suck compared to the OT (still good films, but comparing the two is just ridiculous).
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 9:07pm

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Well, sorry if I lack an informed opinion because I don't desire to watch a weird cartoon version of a live action movie because strikes me as being stupid and, well, weird.

Serpent wrote:

And for the sake of spiting you: Prequels suck compared to the OT (still good films, but comparing the two is just ridiculous).
And the animated series is better then the NT?
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 9:39pm

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Alright come on now.

From what I understand everyone here is into filmmaking yes?

How in the world can you be into film making and not be open minded. There are films on this site that are TERRIBLE but I still get a kick out of watching them but if I made a judgement call on one picture or the first 5 seconds of video that I watched I probably wouldn't even watch half of these films.

Most of us love Star Wars for the story not the effects. If your a true blooded Star Wars fan then you'll watch almost anything by Lucas that's Star Wars related just to get more and more of the story.

Maybe you(Jabooza) like the prequal's better cause they have kewler looking effects and more off the wall fighting scenes. I personaly like both but those of us that are older will always love the classic ones more but not so much for the effects but the plot and story and sweat and blood Lucas put into making them.

Again this is all imo...... smile
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 9:40pm

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Remember that the animated show is supposed to be for kids. Older audiences will still be interested, but the main target audience is the kids. It's just a fun little spin-off, nothing that is supposed to live up to the movies.

Personally, I enjoyed the cartoon Clone Wars, so I will watch the new CG series as well. I think the live-action series has much more potential. The time period- the rule of the Empire and the birth of the rebellion would be perfect for a TV series. I think Lucas has said the live-action series will be for mature audiences, and that he wants to do over a hundred episodes of both series.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 10:05pm

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I'm not 'into' Star Wars really at all, so I don't want to act like a fanatical fanboy here, but...

Jabooza wrote:

Well, sorry if I lack an informed opinion because I don't desire to watch a weird cartoon version of a live action movie because strikes me as being stupid and, well, weird.
You're still heavily misinformed, my friend. Nowhere in the animated series is it a reenactment of the live action movies. Rather, it's a whole new story. Now, I don't really like all the Du'Mkar or whatever jargon of alternate storylines for SW (I just made that one up, FYI) but Clone Wars has such well-paced editing and cinematography (comparable to Samurai Jack, if anybody has seen that) that you simply can't discount it right off the bat.

Most especially if you haven't even watched it. When my brother bought the DVD, I sighed and called him a nerd. But Clone Wars was actually really good. By making general, wrong statements about it and saying you still won't watch it (yet continuing to criticize) you're only further proving ignorance.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 10:10pm

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Yeah I'm going to have to agree here with Atom and Ben (which is becoming an alarmingly frequent occurance!). This looks badass.

I used to be all into Star Wars (when Episode 3 came out mostly). In giving it time, I recognized the unused potential of Episode 3 and the prequels in general. I always loved the Clone Wars series though, and this just seems like a logically awesome new leap forward for the series.

The original trilogy reigns supreme, but this new show seems like a really awesome way to keep the mythology going.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 10:11pm

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I didn't mean that it was incarnation of the other stories, I meant that it was an all-around weird version of Star Wars.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 10:13pm

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Jabooza wrote:

I didn't mean that it was incarnation of the other stories, I meant that it was an all-around weird version of Star Wars.
It's not weird, its stylized... there's a HUGE difference dude. If you'd actually give it a chance, god forbid, you might like them. razz
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 10:17pm

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I agree with Evman, there hasn't been too much going on from Lucas lately, and I've been dying to see some more Star Wars related stuff.

But please, let's be honest. What we really need is a Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic III razz
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No offense here, but in things like the movie mistakes thread, Jabooza, you seem to know an awful lot of mistakes in the Star Wars movies. This is sort of a stretched conclusion, but I'd bet that you're big into Star Wars and have likely seen the movies a lot so as to catch such mistakes.

And, furthermore, I'd bet anything because you're such a fan of the movies, you're less apt to have an open opinion on them. Having only seen all of the movies once or twice (depending upon the movie) I'm willing to have more of an open mind on the animated series.

Clone Wars is done like a Japanese-influenced "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly", and I like it.
Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 10:26pm

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Fill wrote:

I agree with Evman, there hasn't been too much going on from Lucas lately, and I've been dying to see some more Star Wars related stuff.

But please, let's be honest. What we really need is a Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic III razz
I forgot to mention that the first next-gen Star Wars videogame is coming out this summer. It is set between the trilogies, and apparently you play as Darth Vader's secret apprentice. The game features two new technologies that will provide very realistic gameplay.

http://www.lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/#
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ben3308 wrote:

No offense here, but in things like the movie mistakes thread, Jabooza, you seem to know an awful lot of mistakes in the Star Wars movies. This is sort of a stretched conclusion, but I'd bet that you're big into Star Wars and have likely seen the movies a lot so as to catch such mistakes.

And, furthermore, I'd bet anything because you're such a fan of the movies, you're less apt to have an open opinion on them. Having only seen all of the movies once or twice (depending upon the movie) I'm willing to have more of an open mind on the animated series.
It's not that I'm not being open minded about it, it's that I hate to see it become something like this. Them changing it is not the problem, it's what they've change it too.

Evman wrote:

Jabooza wrote:

I didn't mean that it was incarnation of the other stories, I meant that it was an all-around weird version of Star Wars.
It's not weird, its stylized... there's a HUGE difference dude.
This is just stylized too:


Yes, I know this picture is an extreme example but I am sorry to say that I consider the Clone Wars to be not so different from this kind of thing, that's why I would never watch it.
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Jabooza...

Posted: Wed, 13th Feb 2008, 11:48pm

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Haha, sorry, I don't mean to come across as stubborn or like I sound like I'm whining or anything, guess it's just when someone makes a post in any ways against mine I think I have to counter it. smile I'll stop.
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Jabooza wrote:

Haha, sorry, I don't mean to come across as stubborn or like I sound like I'm whining or anything, guess it's just when someone makes a post in any ways against mine I think I have to counter it. smile I'll stop.
At least watch some of the cartoon series before you make your judgement.
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Ed, Edd, and Eddy?

That show kicked ass. Now, there should be a movie based on that!
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I think the best Star Wars i have seen lately is the Robot Chicken: Star Wars Special and Family Guy: Blue Harvest wink
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Jabooza wrote:

Haha, sorry, I don't mean to come across as stubborn or like I sound like I'm whining or anything, guess it's just when someone makes a post in any ways against mine I think I have to counter it. smile I'll stop.
If I ever opposed something, prior to watching it, and an entire thread of people were telling me otherwise (or group of friends, works both ways), I usually give it a shot. No one is saying you will like it, but you very well could. Atom/ben are usually decently harsh critics (save a few odd films they love that are pure garbage wink) and aren't the biggest Star Wars fans, and since I've known them have been very sensitive to the "it's too kiddie" mentality (see any thread where Nintendo was even mentioned, they brought it up). They seem to love the Clone Wars series. Just give it a shot.

Also, I hate Ed, Edd, and Eddy.

Lastly, do yourself a favor and avoid the Youtube rips of the show. This is the size of a Youtube video:


(Google image search, 320 x 240)

Now crop that down to widescreen... and stretch it to fit your computer screen. That's disgusting. So get a high quality version by any means necessary and at least watch it at decent res, if not on a nice entertainment system. As Atom/ben (forgot which, sorry guys) mentioned several times: the "cinematography" is brilliant and legit (not Holiday Special) Star Wars always has good sound.
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Also, I'd like to add that when I posted the pic of Ed, Edd, and Eddy, I wasn't referring to that show in particular, I was referring to that show and any and all shows similar to it.
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I think that this movie/series looks awesome. I'm so glad that Lucas is taking the series through a different route. I really disliked all of the prequels. Episode II was actually the only movie that I somewhat liked out of the prequels. I also agree with everyone else here that the style there going with is really cool.
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Serpent wrote:

Atom/ben are usually decently harsh critics (save a few odd films they love that are pure garbage wink) and aren't the biggest Star Wars fans, and since I've known them have been very sensitive to the "it's too kiddie" mentality (see any thread where Nintendo was even mentioned, they brought it up). They seem to love the Clone Wars series. Just give it a shot.
The three-punch combo, I see. Too bad you're still playing that little kiddie Mario Party 1,267 or Legend of Zelda 8 while I'm watching my weeded-out pile of pure garbage. wink

(And I'd think Waser would be the first example and person to admit he enjoys generally a few odd films that are such. I cite Ring 2 for the example.)
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Atom wrote:

The three-punch combo, I see. Too bad you're still playing that little kiddie Mario Party 1,267 or Legend of Zelda 8 while I'm watching my weeded-out pile of pure garbage. wink
Heh. Mario Party.
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Oooohhh look - Hi-Def clips of it online! (Edit - hold on for 0:46 if it's not working for you...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qEWhrjYg_o
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Someone just received the b3ta newsletter razz
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Xcession wrote:

Someone just received the b3ta newsletter razz
But of course smile
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Ah yes, I remember watching the cartoon version on Cartonn network, it was good for a custom version of Star Wars but this should be better.
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Do you know what I think kicks ass about this new CGI Star Wars?

We'll finally get a Star Wars where the light from the *light*sabers illuminates the characters and surroundings!

Nuff said.

(And that little part in AotC when Anakin fights Dokuu dosen't count because that fight was so lame.)
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Cool new trailer...


http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809991325/trailer
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I can't wait for this, I think it will be a great TV series. Also, taking the first three episodes, cramming them together into a 90 min movie is a rather interesting course to take, but hey, why not?

Also, about the whole Original Trilogy VS. Prequel Trilogy: If you took a few children that are new to Star Wars and showed them all 6 films in order, odds are that they will like the prequels better.

Just sayin' it's all about that "certain point of view..." to quote General Obi-Wan.