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Jumper Effect..check it out

Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 3:22pm

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This is the effect seen in the movie jumper, when he teleports!
tell me what u guys think..

They are 2 videos.

Video 1: http://www.vimeo.com/717065

Video 2: http://www.vimeo.com/720305
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 3:53pm

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Hey, these were pretty good! On both videos, the first effect was the only one I didn't like. The 'jump' through the door in the second video was very well done. Great job on these. Great lighting on the first video, too.
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 3:54pm

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That was pretty good actually. Except it isn't quite like the Jumper effect. First of all, when he jumps in "Jumper", it's like a windthrow is thrown from him. So if he'd stand on a bunch of paper, the paper would blow away. Second, it'd be a "jump-scar" I think it was called.

And when jumper jumps, it doesn't come any purple smoke out of him.

Still cool though.. I wouldn't mind having that kinda powers twisted
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 3:59pm

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i think some of them look like the jumper but others no!
and i think it would need more if i want the paper thing ur talking about!
and what do u mean by "jump-scar".

anyways appreciate ur comments..and maybe i'll try and work on that next time!
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 4:09pm

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The paper isn't an effect in itself mate.. If you go watch the movie again, and watch him jump, you'd see that when he jumps from his bedroom, the windthrow from him would make the curtains move, the paper on his desk flew away, etc. And the scar kinda invisible force-field sort off thing right where he were right before he jumped. That's how he could follow the Paladin-killer around, that's how Morpheus-dude could follow them to Paladin-killer's hideout. I'm not an expert on this thing. I don't even remember half of the name's. It's better if you'd see it.
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 4:23pm

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yeah i got u now..but it''s pretty difficult for me to do it ofcourse!
maybe i'll try it next time..
thanks again for the advice!
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 4:43pm

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Very impressive and the music and sound effects make all the difference.

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Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 4:47pm

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Thanks man...really appreciate it!
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 5:50pm

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props bro, i was lookin how to do this and you did a really good job. care to explain how??
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 6:03pm

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I did it in after effects, i kept the camera on the tripod with no movement and shot a clean plate then shot myself doing the movement.
then in after effects i place the clips in the right order and timing where i teleport, i rotoscope it and apply a turbulent displace effect and keyframe it, i also keyframe the opacity and thats it!

tip: i added a smoke stock footage the momen i teleport and changed the blending mode to softlight.

Hope this helps..
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 6:04pm

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I did it in after effects, i kept the camera on the tripod with no movement and shot a clean plate then shot myself doing the movement.
then in after effects i place the clips in the right order and timing where i teleport, i rotoscope it and apply a turbulent displace effect and keyframe it, i also keyframe the opacity and thats it!

tip: i added a smoke stock footage the moment i teleport and changed the blending mode to softlight.

Hope this helps..
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 6:27pm

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Neat! I was hoping that someone would try this and post the results somewhere. True, it wasn't exactly like in the movie, but I was impressed nonetheless.
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 6:42pm

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Those were very well done. Even though they didn't look completely like Jumper's teleports, they still looked awesome in their own way.

FXhomer27378 wrote:

yeah i got u now..but it''s pretty difficult for me to do it ofcourse!
maybe i'll try it next time..
thanks again for the advice!
I have an idea how you could do the windy effect that Tommy Gunderson was talking about. You could set up areas where you teleport with hidden tubes (under carpets, etc...) that lead to compressed air cartridges. Then you could have someone release the air in the shot that you're not in (when you teleport) and blow things around the shot, like curtains. Just an idea.
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 6:56pm

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heey.. great idea, maybe i'll try this the next time i'll do this!
i am glad u like it!
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 7:02pm

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FreshMentos wrote:

I have an idea how you could do the windy effect that Tommy Gunderson was talking about.
Why do everybody say Gunderson? It's Gundersen dammit >.< -sen, not -son.. neutral lol.

T.G.
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 7:29pm

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Tommy Gundersen wrote:

FreshMentos wrote:

I have an idea how you could do the windy effect that Tommy Gunderson was talking about.
Why do everybody say Gunderson? It's Gundersen dammit >.< -sen, not -son.. neutral lol.

T.G.
Hehe, my bad. smile I think I remember hearing the name Gunderson somewhere and since your username is similar, the first name just clicks in my head.
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 8:51pm

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Impressive! How did you do that? What application did you use? As another person noted, the sound effects really make all the difference!
Posted: Sun, 24th Feb 2008, 9:01pm

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FXhomer27378 wrote:

I did it in after effects, i kept the camera on the tripod with no movement and shot a clean plate then shot myself doing the movement.
then in after effects i place the clips in the right order and timing where i teleport, i rotoscope it and apply a turbulent displace effect and keyframe it, i also keyframe the opacity and thats it!

tip: i added a smoke stock footage the momen i teleport and changed the blending mode to softlight.

Hope this helps..
Filmguy2008, read before asking please... wink

T.G.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 9:10am

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My name is Kurt Wagner, but in the Munich Circus...


Pretty good effect:
3 cookies out of 4
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 12:28am

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This is awesome work, but you said you kept the camera still on the tripod and you shot yourself doing movement correct? So does that mean you chopped parts out of the video or you shot different clips of movement?
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 3:10am

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Lovely stuff.
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 9:37am

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Author: KingPumkin 28 Feb 2008 00:28

This is awesome work, but you said you kept the camera still on the tripod and you shot yourself doing movement correct? So does that mean you chopped parts out of the video or you shot different clips of movement?

Thanks man..yeah i shot myself doing all the movement...like going from the chair to the telephone and the moment i wanted to teleport i did the movement.. then i chopped the parts in the editing!
hope that makes sense!
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 1:03pm

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Sweet, I will totally try this! And I dont see why people say the 2nd one is better.
Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008, 3:20am

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That's pretty awesome. Here is what I ended up with using the same steps in compositelab...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2296178971976257320&hl=en
Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008, 1:14pm

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Thrawn wrote:

That's pretty awesome. Here is what I ended up with using the same steps in compositelab...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2296178971976257320&hl=en
Kinda cool but I would rather walk 2 steps to open my refridgerator, but it was ok.
Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008, 5:32pm

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u definitely need some camera shake there.
Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008, 6:28pm

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KingPumkin wrote:

Thrawn wrote:

That's pretty awesome. Here is what I ended up with using the same steps in compositelab...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2296178971976257320&hl=en
Kinda cool but I would rather walk 2 steps to open my refridgerator, but it was ok.
Haha, yeah, so would I ;D. I probably would have set up something more realistic if I wasn't in a hurry to shoot it. But, yeah, I see your point.

Rafal wrote:

u definitely need some camera shake there.
You might be talking to the creator of this thread, but just the same, with a shaky camera the masking and such would be twenty times harder then if you had it on a tripod. Simply because you need a blank shot of background. I mean, you could probably add a shake to the camera digitaly, but that would be a hassle that may not be worth it.
Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008, 8:12pm

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Tommy Gundersen wrote:

Why do everybody say Gunderson? It's Gundersen dammit >.< -sen, not -son.. neutral lol.
Same way with my last name, it's easy to spell but everyone pronounces it different.
Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008, 2:12pm

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Yeah i wanted to add camera shake in post but it needed alot of rendering time.. so i didn't do it!
it's just a test maybe when i do a short movie about it will be better!
Posted: Thu, 6th Mar 2008, 5:47pm

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My name is Kurt Wagner, but in the Munich Circus...
ROFL

About the Jump-Scar:

Even in the Jumper film they didn't get the Jump-Scar right for all the moving shots, and I saw a few cheats. In many moving shots they shot it against a bright background so they wouldn't have to track the Jump-Scar. I really like Doug Liman as a director (loved The Bourne Identity), but from what I heard he really didn't want to worry about VFX during the production. I think a little better planning and some pre-vis would have done the fight scene in particular a lot of good.

It's easy to tell if the director is VFX savvy or not...the diference between a director who knows alot about VFX, and plans in pre-production (Robert Zemeckis, George Lucas, Gore Verbinski, Steven Spielberg and Michael Bay), and one who dosen't (Doug Liman to some extent) is striking when you look at the dynamics in the CGI/Live action composited shots.

I was disapointed that for all the Jumps in Jumper they used the old school teleporting: Shot of a guy, guy disapears, cut to another location, guy reapears. Why not give you VFX supervisor a challenge. I imagened that we would follow Dave through the whole Jump.

You don't see Dave dissapear, you see the whole scenery change around him. With a cool CGI trasition between the places, and some awesome sound FX that could really have been much better.

Robert Zemeckis obviusly knew this: My favorite VFX shot in Back to the Future is when Marty is sendt to the past after racing the Lybians. Instead of us seeing his car dissapear, cutting to a different location and seeing it reapear, Zemeckis choose to film it from Marty's perspective where we se the scenery change trough the cars windshield, and when I look at the effect today I realise that it was some darn good compositing by ILM.
Posted: Tue, 11th Mar 2008, 8:19am

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How many frames did you keyframed? biggrin
Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008, 4:24pm

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how did you do that?
Posted: Mon, 1st Sep 2008, 7:08pm

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Thats pretty goood, i liked the first one better, because it showed his exit and return all in one shot.