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Oscars-Transformers lost! To THE GOLDEN COMPASS?!

Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 2:16am

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WHATT!?!?!?!?! Are they high?

I feel like I'm taking CRAZY PILLS!
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 2:24am

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You forget that the Oscars are the biggest gathering of snobby rich people giving other snobby rich people... well... you get the idea. unsure

And really, a whole thread for just one category? Come on now.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 2:27am

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I love the Oscars. You just have to remember they aren't representative of the 'best' per-se, but there's no reason to dog them. I quite like them and think everyone in it is generally pretty decent and gracious.

And even then, people who get pissy, snobby, or otherwise negative at the Oscars are exploited and dogged on it forever. Except for Eddie Murphy. He totally played that pissed-off-ness after losing last year. Mostly because he deserved it.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 2:39am

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I didn't really see the Golden Compass, but from the trailers and the brief shots shown, I don't understand what's great about it.

The blend of cg and real life subjects isn't that hard to pull off at this point.

Pirates seemed far more complex to pull and Transformers just looked sick.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 2:47am

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Yeah, in all seriousness, though I enjoyed the Golden Compass, the effects in Transformers and Pirates blew the GC's effects out of the water.

Knowing the Oscars, it was given to the Golden Compass b/c it was the most controversial of those three films, not because of actual superiority in Visual Effects.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 3:53am

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I would have went with Pirates for sure, But not the Golden Compass. But so far this isnt the biggest shocker of the night.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 4:19am

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Dancamfx wrote:

I would have went with Pirates for sure
I agree, didn't see Golden Compass but the trailer didn't look that good. True, the effects in POTC3 weren't perfect, but they were so complex that they clearly should have won.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 4:42am

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I just wanted Transformers to win because I didn't like The Golden Compass and Pirates 3 at all. smile

Transformers' computer animation was way better than the Golden Compass but not better than Pirates 3. I was very surprised.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 4:58am

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No Country won! Ratatouille won! Javier Bardem won! Tilda Swinton won! The Coen Bros. won! Woot!

My only upsets are hack whore writer winning best original screenplay and Transformers loss. Juno has better writing/more original story than Michael Clayton or Ratatouille? Come on!
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 5:14am

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Atom wrote:

My only upsets are hack whore writer winning best original screenplay
Juno was good, but it's by no means in the same league as the other nominees for the same categories, and I think pretty much everyone knows it. I wonder how many people got paid off, and how much they got, in order for that to happen.

I'm pretty much happy with the winners otherwise. I'm really glad Once won for best song, because I love that movie.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 5:16am

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Overall, I'll have to say I'm happy with the way things turned out. My only complaints are PT Anderson not winning best director, Roger Deakins not winning best cinematography for Assassination of Jesse James, and Diablo Cody actually winning for best original screenplay.

By the way, anyone else notice that Diablo Cody acts/talks exactly like Juno? God I hate that movie.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 5:47am

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Aculag wrote:

I'm really glad Once won for best song, because I love that movie.
Agreed. I hated all the Enchanted songs, it seemed like the odds were against Once. Really incredible how Once has just been climbing ever since it was noticed. Great film.

I don't know if Cody was deserving in writing, but I'm really happy for her. I liked Juno, it was well written. The fact that she wrote it without much proper training or anything is really cool.

So glad Coen brothers won. So glad Bourne won for editing, I was hoping for it. Apparently it had good sound too, I was swearing No Country would win in sound.

Golden Compass winning is ridiculous. It had nice visuals and design, but Transformers was more accomplished in terms of VFX, and that's what the award is for.

Cinematography was such a tough category. Atonement, Assassination, and There Will Be Blood were all brilliant in that field, tough call I'd say. I'm happy with the results though.

Really glad Daniel Day Lewis and Javier Bardem won in their categories.

Jon Stewart did a fantastic job. He seemed to disappear near the end though, and then ended the show rather abruptly. I hated the music performances, save Hansard and Iglova.

Those are my thoughts. smile
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 5:49am

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It's not hard to direct a mostly one-character movie, though, especially when you've got an actor with a well-developed knowledge of how he's playing his character.

This is the reason the Coens deserved Bes Director. The difference between the three main pro/antagonists is so subtle and in other ways drastic that it's amazing that so many different characters and attitudes with them were drawn from the same 2 directors. Look at Woody Harrelson and Anton Chigurh. On paper they could have easily ended up being the same character in a good versus bad form.

That's where directing, and credit for it, make sense to me.

And I forgot to mention Robert Deakens snub. I haven't seen the Ass. of Jesse James (hehe smile), but from the shots I've seen and No Country for Old Men; I can't see how he'd be beat really.

Maybe Atonement, maybe. But then the wooden and uninspired cinematography of There Will Be Blood? I guess it had the style of No Country with the static shots mixed with handycam and long holds, but it lacked the finesse of much better cinematography nominees.

And again, Diablo Cody for Juno. Go ahead and give me a shotgun so I can shoot the Oscar right out of her hand. I won't nag on the academy and call it stupid like most people would (including Brad Bird in the Animation Dept!), but I'm upset by this. They heard "previously a stripper" and went crazy.

And adding insult to injury that she showed up in whorish clothing all-the-while sporting million-dollar shoes. Ostentatious-trashy is in, I guess. I'm sorry I'm expressing so much disdain for this movie- but it's doubly irritating for an incredibly overhyped movie to win- especially when it's against perfectly original stories (a talking Rat that can cook) and excellent and sharp dialogue (I am shiva, the god of death. Michael Clayton.) and the winner ends up being the cliche plot-playout of all the lot with the most aching and pathetic dialogue.

It hurts when good movies suffer the sins of other movies' parts mediocrity. For Juno, it was the writing. Now I know how Scorsese feels every year. Haha.
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I kinda think that the assassination of Jesse James wasn't all that "INCREDIBLY" shot.

I also kinda think Juno's writing was so unrelentingly pretentious, I could barely watch it as a film.


And, to be honest, I definitely think the Bourne Ultimatum should have been nominated somewhere and won something.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 7:19am

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DirectorBryce wrote:

And, to be honest, I definitely think the Bourne Ultimatum should have been nominated somewhere and won something.
It did...
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 7:28am

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I suppose I should have made my sarcasm more legible....


I was fairly surprised it won three categories considering the competition...
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It looks like Waser will be donating $15 to charity then.. (see Tauntaun Burgers Podcast Episode 63)
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Atom wrote:

My only upsets are hack whore writer winning best original screenplay
The thing I like about you, Atom, is the way you always refrain from being judgemental about people who are different from yourself.

and Transformers loss
Go Pantalaimon! Woohoo!

The problem with visual effects awards is that it's always a bit vague as to what you should be looking at. Sure, Transformers was the most 'photo-real' and convincing, but the astounding effects are in an utterly miserable, dreary film with zero character or dramatic interest. Add to that annoying shaky not shaky but shaky camerawork in every action sequence so that you can barely even see the effects......And let's not forget that the Transformers robot designs are utterly godawful, too.

Golden Compass, on the other hand, might not have anything like as realistic effects, but they do have a lot of character. The Pantalaimon daemon alone had more character and subtlety than all the Transformers put together. Plus there's the fact that talking animals will never look as realistic as a machine with moving parts - and is photorealism the only thing people should be interested in? Surely imagination is important too?

Do you judge effects on the way they're used, or the basic technical accomplishment? Or both?

It's the same problem you get with having an 'Animation' award. It seems to imply that animated movies aren't good enough to win 'Best Picture'. Are they being judged on the quality of the animation, or as overall films?

Basically, what I'm try to say here, is that all awards shows are stupid and should be largely ignored. smile
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 9:34am

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Organic creatures are much MUCH harder to create and render in 3D than solid metal robots...

I also doubt that the indistinguishable designs of half the robots and the dodgy camera work (to the point you couldn't tell what you were looking at) helped Transformers much.

Half the time I couldn't even tell which one was Starscream and which one was Megatron...

I don't really get why you guys would think it should win, it didn't seem that cutting edge to me. Don't get me wrong, it was well done, but it didn't move anything forward as far as I could tell. Pirates was more impressive when it comes to special effects than Transfomers but it was an even worse film so I wouldn't give it to that either. wink

Compass had issues as well, and some of the rendering wasn't much good, but there was a lot of complexity in what they tried to do which was harder than Transformers to be sure (if not Pirates).

Pirates had already won it in 2006 for the last one so I can see why it wouldn't get it...
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 9:49am

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Atom wrote:

I forgot to mention Robert Deakens snub. I haven't seen the Ass. of Jesse James (hehe smile), but from the shots I've seen and No Country for Old Men; I can't see how he'd be beat really.

It hurts when good movies suffer the sins of other movies' parts mediocrity. For Juno, it was the writing. Now I know how Scorsese feels every year. Haha.
The only part of your post I agree with is the Deakins snub - it' shocking he didn't win an Oscar this year and it's shocking he hasn't actually already won one.

You seem dead set against Diablo Cody. What should it matter whether she was a stripper or not? Good movies - if the movie is good, it means it's almost certainly based on a good script, so no idea what you're saying about Juno.
Posted: Mon, 25th Feb 2008, 11:37am

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While Diablo Cody is no doubt talented, her dialogue writing preferences clearly aren't enjoyed by everyone. In fact, a majority of the people I've asked about the film said that, while they liked the film as a whole, they definitely felt the characters speaking patterns were over the top and kind of annoying.


Deakens is a phenomenally talented DP, and I have no idea how he wasn't won anything in his entire career.


And Tarn-

I would think that The oscar for visual effects would be based on the furthering of technology and the seamless integration of the said effect. I don't really see how "Creativity" plays into a technology-based category.
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DirectorBryce wrote:

I would think that The oscar for visual effects would be based on the furthering of technology and the seamless integration of the said effect. I don't really see how "Creativity" plays into a technology-based category.
Well, that's kinda the question I was asking. What exactly are the criteria for some of the catagories? There are so many different ways of judging it.

If it was defined as you describe above, then every single Star Wars prequel film should have won, as they've advanced film technology and special effects more than anything else - probably more than everything else put together. smile

They're not great films, though, which clearly stopped them winning anything. But their technical impact on the film industry in general is massive.

It's the same way Jar Jar Binks was trashed back in '99, when he was actually a pretty damn good effect (especially for the time). It wasn't ILM's fault that the character himself was godawful.

So, yeah, my specific complaint isn't about who did or didn't win, but more that that it's a very, very vague category in general, making it a bit irrelevant.
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The only movie of the three nominated for visual effects that I've seen is Pirates, but by looking at the trailers for Golden Compass I really don't see what's so special about it, Transformers looks like it has good effects but like schwar says, I think metal is easier to make look real than a lot of other things like skin or fur. So I think Pirates should've won, also I think Spider-Man 3 should've been nominated, it had a lot of not so great GC double shots but the Sandman was done perfectly.
Btw, what visual effects company(s) did The Golden Compass anyway?
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i dont really understand why "Juno" got nominated for an oscar in the first place...it is a terribly booring movie...

heck, they should have let "superbad" get an oscar instead of "juno"...

unfortunately I fell asleep while watching the oscars (since, the oscars-show only started at 2:30am over here ^^)
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DirectorBryce wrote:

I was fairly surprised it won three categories considering the competition...
I'm not. Even from the clips they showed, the sound and editing are fantastic.


As for No Country versus There Will Be Blood. I'm glad the Coen brothers won in their categories. I honestly can't think of a Coen Brothers film I didn't like(even Intolerable Cruelty and the Ladykillers).

I would have been okay with Paul Thomas Anderson winning since his film was fantastic and his career is right up their with the Coen bros. But it just ended up being their year, so good for them. Anderson will win one day. No doubt.
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Tarn wrote:

Atom wrote:

My only upsets are hack whore writer winning best original screenplay
The thing I like about you, Atom, is the way you always refrain from being judgemental about people who are different from yourself.
Don't you just know it. It seems no one got how ridiculously cookie-cutter judgmental I was. I knew something bad was coming with that, but what the hell, right? smile I was only kidding.

But, I'll go ahead and for future comment provide a little non-rant dissertation on why I feel the way I do:

I don't have anything personally against Diablo Cody's lifestyle, not at all. But I'm bothered when someone is championing it as making her a better writer than other excellent writers like Bird or Gilroy because of it. Bryce essentially summed it up here:

DirectorBryce wrote:

While Diablo Cody is no doubt talented, her dialogue writing preferences clearly aren't enjoyed by everyone. In fact, a majority of the people I've asked about the film said that, while they liked the film as a whole, they definitely felt the characters speaking patterns were over the top and kind of annoying.
As pathetically ironic as it may be, prentiousness enfuriates me more than anything in screenwriting. And even worse, in the screenwriters, especially against terrific and humble people like Brad Bird. It's bias, sure. But, again tragically ironic, the hype for Juno was so ridiculous, it left me completely frustrated after viewing. Hype and pretentiousness is the killer for both. I know, I know. I should be the poster boy.

Juno: For such excellent acting and art direction, it's flaw become too drastic to have its strengths compensate. But, that's only my opinion. Like I Am Legend, it had the workings to be a completely memorable and great movie in many ways, that just didn't get there. And I don't think it should be favored like it did. My favorite movie, Gone Baby Gone, was a clear nomination for Best Picture not just to me, but many people. It has a 94% on Rotten Tomatoes and the Afflecks have received ridiculous numbers of awards for it, not counting Amy Ryan's award-count (higher than any other major actor or actress last year).

I just would've liked to see it up there, and I guess that's another part of the anger. Lost hopes for the Oscars, right? 'For You Consideration' is a wonderful movie to watch about this exact same thing, if you happen to catch it.

I was expecting Ratatouille or No Country For Old Men to take one sound category or another and leave the other one to Bourne. Surprised it took both. Editing was a toss-up, because it's possible the longer cuts and timing on No Country would've been far, far harder. But I can acknowledge and clap to the fact that a movie with such fast and furious cuts won. It's just as hard and just as effective, "MTV-style editing" or not. wink
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It's fun to hear Atom talk about how much he hates pretentiousness. razz

Anywho, it's just plain getting ridiculous now that animated films can't be nominated for say, best picture. What with Ratatouille's strong showing in several categories (I'm still pissed that Michael Giacchino didn't win for best score, and Brad Bird didn't get his writing nod), I'd assume the academy would be a bit more lenient with that stuff and realize that animation is not a genre, rather a tool used to create other genres.

Again - another reason why I hate the Oscars.
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Transformers' computer animation was way better than the Golden Compass but not better than Pirates 3. I was very surprised.
Yep, I agree. But what shocked me even more was that Pirates didn't even get a nomination for its score... Hans Zimmer did a such a beautiful job!

Evman wrote:

I hate the Oscars.
Me too. Actually, I hate all award shows that aren't people's choice. unsure
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Evman wrote:

I hate the Oscars.
I wonder if you'd hate the Oscars if you ended up winning one.
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The thing about effects is that the more realistic they are the less likely they are to win anything. Artsy effects are always better appreciated.
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Jabooza wrote:

Evman wrote:

I hate the Oscars.
I wonder if you'd hate the Oscars if you ended up winning one.
I don't think I'll ever have to encounter this situation, because if I did the Academy probably would have made a mistake of some sort (like they did in 2004 with LOTR). The entire academy ended up overwhelming voting for something that wasn't like what they usually vote for, and for filmmakers who weren't a part of the giant popularity contest that is Hollywood. Biggest mistake they've ever made... rolleyes razz

Oh and they also shoved the entire Rings party into the back few rows (despite them being the undisputed big winners) to make room for more important stars that weren't even nominated for anything in the front row.
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Oh and they also shoved the entire Rings party into the back few rows (despite them being the undisputed big winners) to make room for more important stars that weren't even nominated for anything in the front row.
Actually, that reminds me, last night I saw a little bit of the Academy Awards on TV, something that happened that I noticed that was kind of odd, a very small thing but it was still a little bit weird; when the team for Sweeney Todd won best art direction, when they were giving their speech the camera kept cutting to Johnny Depp (who of course stars in Sweeney Todd), it showed him as often or close to as often as the people giving the speech. Why do they feel a movie star must always be on-screen? unsure

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They cut back to the stars a lot not because they're more important, but for the sake of anyone who is just tuning in who does not know what movie the current award is going to.

Pretty obvious tactic, actually. Just like CNN refreshing the subtitles on their news ticker, the Oscars cut back to points of recognition to remind the audience who is speaking and for what.
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Forgot to mentioned the higher-ly-ish acclaimed movies that got snubbed this year, namely one I've never mentioned before:

Breach.

What a wonderfully eerie and smart movie. Ryan Phillipe and Chris Cooper are perfect in it. It's just a shame it was largely under-publicized and the teasers that were made and did show not only gave away the movie like a teaser for the Sixth Sense would, but were utterly crappish too.

I caught Breach on the flight to New York and the trailer played before it and I skipped it in favor of watching some Entourage on my Zune. On the way back to Dallas from NY it played on the airplane again and I was very, very pleasantly surprised. Time Magazine, I just realized, even ranked it in the top ten best movies of the year. Above The Savages and There Will Be Blood. Look at that here.

Good movies I've had pegged as good most of the year (such as No Country), but it's a rare thing to find such an unexpected surprise 'great movie'. I found two: Disturbia and Breach.

After that, 3:10 To Yuma and Gone Baby Gone. Haven't seen Rescue Dawn, but I heard Steve Zahn got robbed a nod also.
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He was good in Rescue Dawn, but I wouldnt say he was worthy of a nomination. Not compared to the supporting actors nominated they were all fantastic. If anyone needed to be added to that list it would have been Robert Downey Jr for Zodiac.
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As shocking as it was that Transformers lost Best Visual Effects to Golden Compass, I'm almost even more surprised it lost Best Sound Mixing and Best Sound Editing to of all movies, The Bourne Ultimatum eek

/confused
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JoelM wrote:

As shocking as it was that Transformers lost Best Visual Effects to Golden Compass, I'm almost even more surprised it lost Best Sound Mixing and Best Sound Editing to of all movies, The Bourne Ultimatum eek

/confused
Against the competition (No Country For Old Men) I could understand being confused, but in-general Bourne Ultimatum had some of the best sound mixing/editing ever.

Not quite sure what the difference is exactly. If we're talking the editor's job of cutting between sounds and timing them (I guess that's sound editing) it definitely was deserved by Bourne. Anything else, such as the mixing of the specific foley, levels, etc. it was all 'No Country' or Ratatouille.

Like I said, I'd like to have seen Bourne and one of the other ones win between both awards. One irrefutable and nearly unarguable problem with a win was Deaken's loss for Best Cinematography. I can't stand wooden camerawork, but even I have to admit it's completely and beautifully artistic in 'No Country'. It doesn't take an expert to see No Country For Old Men had the best cinematography of the selected nominees and that 'Jesse James' had some clearly awesome shots.
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Atom wrote:

Against the competition (No Country For Old Men) I could understand being confused, but in-general Bourne Ultimatum had some of the best sound mixing/editing ever.
Agreed. Both No Country For Old Men and The Bourne Ultimatum had fantastic sound designs and I was pretty certain they'd split the two awards. Kind of surprising that Bourne won both although I must admit that Bourne winning best film editing was far more surprising, especially considering the other films nominated.

Not quite sure what the difference is exactly.
I believe sound editing refers to the recording and cutting of foleys, sound effects, and ADR while mixing refers to the way they're put together into the finished film.

It doesn't take an expert to see No Country For Old Men had the best cinematography of the selected nominees and that 'Jesse James' had some clearly awesome shots.
Yeah, I have to be honest, Assassination of Jesse James is probably the best looking film I've ever seen so as I said before I'm disappointed with it not winning. razz

Also, as far as original screenplay goes, I found Ratatouille to be far wittier and much funnier than Juno. But then again that's just me. unsure
Posted: Wed, 27th Feb 2008, 12:32am

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Transformers should have gotten the sound mixing award. If you crank that film in some expensive headphones, it'll blow your mind with the intricacies in that mix...
Posted: Wed, 27th Feb 2008, 1:12am

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Michael Clayton was far wittier than Juno, too. And it had slick, snappy, and most of all complex dialogue. Ratatouille I wanted to win so bad. It's been some time since I've seen it, but I remember grinning by the poetic optimism of the movie.

Namely I recall Peter O'Toole's ending voiceover as Anton Ego with Remy a Linguini doing stuff. It was indeed a great movie, and easily and deservingly should've taken Juno's spot for Best Picture nomination, even if it never would've won.

And I totally forgot about Transformers. Talk about awesomeness. I wish it had won FX, still. Sucks balls it didn't. I thought it was the most creatively-placed (dutch angles and high contrast and images where it's just foreground blurred instead of just "this is the CG shot. We're locking it far away so you can see how much detail we put into it")

TF so flawlessly touted it's damn near perfect CG and never even tried to call it revolutionary. But in the history of movies I've seen, only two effects have made me believe they were real. Transforming robot cars and Davy Jones' face.
Posted: Wed, 27th Feb 2008, 1:36am

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Anyone feel like The Darjeeling Limited should have received a best cinematography nomination? I'd say it was Wes Anderson's best, in regards to technicals, but evidently it wasn't good enough. Then again, it is tough to stack up against No Country, There Will be Blood, and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly. I didnt get to see Jesse James.
Posted: Wed, 27th Feb 2008, 3:55am

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It's funny, I thought Davy Jones was make-up since it looked so great
Posted: Wed, 27th Feb 2008, 12:22pm

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Atom, in a year full of strong and artistic movies, some have to get the shaft. That said, I'm still pissed the only nom 3:10 got was for it's soundtrack. (Though it was a great soundtrack.) Also, I would have thought Transformers was a lock. Hmm...
And even if they were giving it to GC on the basis of the effects being more organic, then in that case Pirates should have deserved the win. It just feels all-around screwy. (And no movie deserves an award any less because it's sequel won it the previous year. Look at LOTR...)
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 2:10am

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Am STUNNED that Transformers lost to the golden compass. Do not have any idea how the oscars can say Transformers didn't have the better effects with all the action scenes and the robots transforming. Michael Bay and Optimus Prime were robbed !!
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 2:43am

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mlite316 wrote:

Michael Bay...robbed !!
Ah, didn't think about that. Maybe the Academy made a moral decision.
Posted: Thu, 28th Feb 2008, 11:14am

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My only upsets are hack whore writer winning best original screenplay and Transformers loss. Juno has better writing/more original story than Michael Clayton or Ratatouille? Come on!
The writer of that film is actually a member of another forum I frequent. Its funny because no one is able to say that it was just ok. While not bad.. no where in the same league as anything else. They just congratulate her and say how glad they are she won. Obviously they're retarded if they think she's going to talk to them.
Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008, 1:06pm

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Jabooza wrote:


Btw, what visual effects company(s) did The Golden Compass anyway?
Mostly Rhythm and Hues Studios and Framestore CFC.

Rhythm and Hues Studios created the main dæmons, and Framestore CFC created all the bears. British company Cinesite created the secondary dæmons.

It was supervised by Michael L. Fink.

And just for the record: I wanted John Knoll to win!