The Neon Night (teaser)
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 10:20am
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|This is a teaser for my short: "La nuit de Néon" (The Neon Night... i'm french).|
I used AlamDV 1 (it was in 2001) for part of the explosions and fire shots.
This teaser have been shot in 3 days beetween 5 and 7 AM, in the Paris (france) subway.
All post work done with a 600 Mhz Ibook !
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 1:54pm
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how did you do the security camera effect?
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 3:21pm
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It's nice. 2 things.
1: What did you use to get that film effect (or which camera settings).
2: What did you edit it with?
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 4:03pm
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Dude that was awsome. When you make the actual movie will you put english subtitles if you speak in French? That was a good trailer man.
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 4:19pm
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Great work! I love the editiing, and the fire going down the stairs looks REALLY good. I hope you include subtitles!!11
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 4:22pm
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Very Very good!... one of the best yet i have to admit!!!.
Defenetly worth a 5 star, from me. I liked it alot!
One thing realy catched my eye... When "the scary guy" pulls out his knife looks very proffesional!!! you must have zoomed in alot and changed the focus on the blade then in post production... well, i kind of know how you did it.
Good use of alamdv explosions too, with adding a table or what the hell it is that are flying out of the sub-way.
It has a very unike feel to it also... the subway feel
And for sidewinder and mecha... stop being jealous. on very good movies, you always write " it's ok.. pretty good etc " just becouse you want the nr 1 spot. (no offens.. i wan't it too
The worst thing is if you're movie is too good... then it will loose the rank.
PS! Non of my movies are at top ten anymore
But that dousent make me stop doing movies.
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 4:36pm
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Very cool, love the camera angles and effects you used, I was just in Paris I think i know what metro station you were at…
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 5:05pm
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Now THAT is how you make a trailer/teaser.
There's only one thing that kept me from giving it a 5...the french. I personally don't like the language (blame my teachers), so therefore, i couldn't understand what it's about really. So if you made the titles in english, you would get a 5 from me. excellent work tho.
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 5:22pm
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Definetly an awesome trailer, I look forwards to seeing
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 7:16pm
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Mind telling us what this movie is about? It looks uber-interesting!
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 7:18pm
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What's the name of the music track that you use? I rather like it
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 7:52pm
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What do I need to play this? Quicktime says it needs additional software that isn't on the Quicktime server
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 8:06pm
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i cant only here the sound part of it what do i need to get the video to work
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 8:20pm
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Ah found it - you need to download the codec from http://www.vp3.com/vp3/quicktime/index.shtml
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 9:17pm
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Very nicely done- Cinematography was nice and the music was great. The titles looked good (even though I couldn't read em) and overall it flowed well. I think you over used the security camera shot, even though it was cool. Also, there was a whole lot of black footage in the first part. I would have tightened up those a little to give some more screen time to the beautiful imagery going on there, but that's just personal taste (which my wife says I have very little of) At any rate- it looks excellent and extra points for doing it on a Mac!
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 9:30pm
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Well, i want to really thank you all for the compliments.
To answer some of the questions posted above:
-Yes the full movie will have English subtitles... i feel really sorry for those who didn't understand.
-This trailer is a demo for a film (soon ?) to be shot. So i shot only "demo shots" and not the full story. The shooting was done in 2 days from 5AM to 7:30 AM in the subway of Paris (France). One afternoon for the bluescreen. I used a Sony TRV 120 (D8 format), no lightning and a very poor steadycam. I edited it with FinalCut Pro 1.2.5 and all SFX where done using Photoshop 5.5, After Effects 4.1 and AlamDV 1. The all post work used a 600 Mhz SE Ibook.
- The Full movie should last beetween 15 and 20 minutes. The story is about a homeless guy, who lives in the subway who is being hunted by a deviant salaryman. The all movie takes place in a near future.
- The "security camera" shots are done using a photoshop generated document with Black/Grey/white large grid. It's then animated by hand in After effect and composited over the shot.
- The "film effect" about which i'm not quite satisfied, is done by de-interlacing the fields, good color correction, and a "grain effect" generated in photoshop and then composited over the video.
-The "nice effect" of the bad guy pulling out is knife is a composite of a bluescreen shot composited over a blurred empty shot of the sub'.
-The strange "flying thing" on the last explosion shot is actually a trash as they exist in the sub' in Paris. It's done in 3D using Animation Master.
-The music is an original score by a friend of mine who is a film Composer.
Thank you for your interest.
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 9:33pm
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Nico.R wrote:-Yes the full movie will have English subtitles... i feel really sorry for those who didn't understand.
Could you post here what they are in English?
(very good job btw)
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 9:34pm
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really weird, the server asked me to login once again after posting in the forum...
Nico.R AKA Encheval.
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 9:42pm
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1) Make Believe and Simulacra Presents
2)On the column of the first shot: METRO=Subway in french
3) on the TV monitor: it's probably chinese and i don't know what the hell it means...
4) A film by Nicolas Rostan
5) Don't look for an explanation
6) look for a way out
7) Title: The neon night
Nico.R aka Encheval
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 10:02pm
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Very good! Excellent!!! That looks really professional (I suppose it's not the first movie you shot). Didn't even have to think about the 5... :)
Really fantastic... Looks very cineastic!!!
I'd love seeing the whole movie!
Posted: Sun, 7th Jul 2002, 10:09pm
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From the filmmaker of The Test and Rose it's a great compliment. I really like your movies and the SFX section of your site.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jul 2002, 6:12am
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I like the overall look and feel of the piece: very dark, brooding and gritty
Which program did you use (if any) to simulate film stock? Looks good...
Posted: Mon, 8th Jul 2002, 7:26am
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Cool.. i was done in blue screen
I'm gonna start experimanting with suff like that too.
And again... sweet movie. Worth a 5.
Posted: Mon, 8th Jul 2002, 3:16pm
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Dang! There someone goes UPING the bar! I got my sights set on the number on slot and now .... wow!
Great clip. I can't really give too much feedback as I didn't undersatnad it before the translation. I thought you may have used the guy pleading at the monitor 1 too many times. (But again if I could read Fench it may have been perfect.)
I do have a request. I would love to beat you out of the top spot and want you to share your secrets with me in order to help me do it!
Do you post any English tutorials? I really liked the film and would be very appreciative of any insite you could add.
It really isn't about wininning, but I do want to become a better film creator. Your clip was very professionaly done and I would be grateful for any help!
Posted: Mon, 8th Jul 2002, 3:45pm
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i guess this means that No Control Cinema (sollthar) will have to make a new movie
Posted: Mon, 8th Jul 2002, 7:24pm
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Well, once again thanks for all compliments.
I have already responded to a few technical questions (about some effects and film look) on the forum.
But if you have any questions make a post on the forum and i will answer it in my best english !
Posted: Tue, 9th Jul 2002, 5:43pm
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All those sound effects that u had during the movie like the security camera sound i would like to know where u got em
Posted: Tue, 9th Jul 2002, 7:39pm
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all sounds effects are original creations by my Musician and Sound Designer Fabien.http://imaginason.free.fr.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 12:36pm
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Ce trailer/teaser est excellent! C'est le premier film français que j'ai hâte de voir, a part ceux de Luc Besson...
On a vraiment l'impression de regarder un film à gros budget et ça c'est un défi de taille. J'ai bien hâte de voir la suite...
Ça fait longtemps que tu fais du cinéma?
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 3:42pm
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Wow. Nice job on acheiving the fabeled "look", as well as on the editing, music, sound, and the sfx.
I am wondering where you got those kind of wooshing and swishing sound effects. I've looked everywhere, but can't find them.
Also, I was wondering if you could go over those fire scenes a little bit. I noticed that the screen became reddish, which was cool, but I also thought I noticed a reflection on the floor in the first shot with the fire. Did you actually do something for that reflection, or is it just a by-product of the red tint?
Also, in the explosion scene, what did you do to get the walls of the subway to bend? was that explosion really done in alamdv1?
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 11:04pm
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First, i want to answer Lord Dugall: Cool de pouvoir utiliser ma langue natale sur AlamDV. Pour tout dire, je travaille comme Assistant Réa depuis 4 ans et "La nuit de Néon" est ma premiere réalisation perso.
For the fire shots, the red tint is done in After Effects. The reflections on the ground are basically a copy of the explosion layer with a work on opacity. I Use AlamDV 1 for making the fire but also still fire textures found on a 3D site and a 3D generated ball and a free artbeat explosion given on their site. The compositing is done in AE. The bending walls are done with the Photoshop spherisation plugin in AE.
By the way i do not really like it and will do better next time.
All sound effects are original creations by Fabien (http://imaginason.free.fr)
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 9:21am
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Will there be any way of seeing the whole movie when it's finished? I just keep watching the trailer over and over and it really makes me wanna see MORE of it! :)
Your abilities in filmtechniques really beat everything. You've got a new Fan! :)
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 11:07am
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Yes, when the movie is finished i will post and tell everybody in the world!
The movie is not shot yet because it's forbidden to shoot in the French Subway (during the shooting of the trailer we've been almost arrested by police !) if you don't have A LOT of money. And the film as i want it is very difficult to shoot in a "commando way".
I hope i will be possible to put it on this site but the movie should be a 15/20 minutes so...
I'm also turning the "Neon Night Concep"t into a feature Film shooting script.
The movie site: http://lanuitdeneon.free.fr
will be soon finished (i hope). On this site you will found some new footages and stills, photos, and a presentation of the story.
Thank you again for your interest
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 2:45pm
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salut nico, c'est zazouzanzi, on s'est deja parle sur le forum de dvforever. Ca fait plaisir de voir des french frogs sur ce forum.
Bravo pour ta realisation, c'est canon. Belles prises de vue, de bons effets speciaux pas trop appuyes, et un bon rythme, une bonne ambiance un peu bizarre. Que du bon en bref. encore bravo.
Question : il m'a semble lire dans le forum que tu avais utilise des fonds bleus ? Ou ? Les affiches ? MAis alors comment ?
Petite remarque : ta typo n'est pas tres lisible (surtout en bass def), et en plus ca va tres vite. A part ca, chapeau. Mais bon, es tu encore vraiment un amateur ?
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 4:44pm
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Salut, c'est petit le monde du dv !
Ta remarque sur les typos est tres juste, ça passe impec' en 720 / 576 sur mon Mac ou la TV mais en peit, avec la compression c'est bof bof.
J'ai utilisé un bluescreen pour le plan ou le couteau traverse l'ecran de bas en haut et pour le gros plan du "Bad Guy" car je voulais un effet "longue focale" impossible a obtenir en video amateur. J'en ai aussi utilisé pour d'autre plans non montés qui seront peut-être sur le site (si j'ai le temps).
pour les affiches, ce sont des scans de peintures classiques insérées dans l'image apres détourage.
pour les signes chinois sur le moniteur, le mouvement de cam est virtuel etles ideogrames sont incrustés dedans.
See you here or on DVF
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 4:51pm
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OOOPS, j'ai oublié ta dernière question.
Je me considere comme un amateur, au sens noble du terme.
Sinon, c'est vrai que je bosse comme assistant réal. Mais pour ce bout de film, j'avais une D8 prétée par le grand père de Fabien (qui a fait la Musique et tout le design sonore) et un sous-steadycam tout pourri.
Les costumes sont nos costumes persos (a part les masques achetés 2FF piece chez Casto) et j'ai monté et truqué le tout sur mon ancien portable.
je ne vois rien de tres pro là dedans...
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 4:56pm
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Vous s'appelle Nico?
Je m'appelle Niko.
Je ne parle bien de Francais.
Mais, je comprends beaucoup. J'ai habité en France quand J'ai 6 ans.
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 5:16pm
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No one is a prophet in is own country...
So, if you enjoyed the teaser of The Neon Night, could you help it in France by voting as you voted on this site ?
thanx a lot !
vote at http://www.cine-courts.com
the teaser is there under it's french name: la Nuit de Neon.
PS for Sidewinter: tres heureux de parler en français avec toi !
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 5:51pm
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Bleh..I can't stand it when people talk in a different language. I feel so left out.
Although I do know that Sidewinder said something about his name
Posted: Fri, 12th Jul 2002, 4:58pm
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my french is pretty rusty...but i htink sidewinder said:
Your name is Nico?
My name is Niko.
I don't speak french well (?)
But, i undestand (somewhat, a little?) i lived in france when i was 6 years old.
OMG!!!!!! i learned something in french!!!!!!!!!! wtf/?!?!?!
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 6:36am
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Yeah...that's basically what I said.
Tu comprends que je dit.
Mon ami, Antoine Vernet, habite acoté de Paris. Ma mere voyage en France maintnent (?right now?), et elle visitais la famille de mon ami.
or is it..elle a visité la famille...?
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 6:38am
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Sigh... he's at it again.
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 7:39am
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Well Sidewinter, yuor french is quite good !
translation: Sidewinter told me that he has a friend who lives near Paris (where i live) and that his mum was actally on a trip to France.
PS Hajiku_Flip, don't take it so personally. I don't want anyone to feel out. I just enjoy using my natural langage on this site.
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 7:44am
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lol that's okay. If I knew another language, I'm sure i'd talk in it all the time, just to aggrivate people
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 8:35am
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La Nuit de Neon ........ c'est FORMIDABLE
(i hope that means what i think)
Absolutely wicked, kickass film.... best ive seen( of the trailers posted. )
Niko - are you planning to use more alamdv effects or just that one explosion?
a definate 5 star movie
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 8:38am
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I think you might be confused in thinking this is Niko's film. Or do you mean, the french Nico? Well, if your thinking it's sidewinder's film, it's not, it's Encheval's
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 8:42am
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No, I know it was Niko (the french one) who made it.
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 6:17pm
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thanx for compliments.
My name is Nico and my username is Encheval and it's me who directed The Neon Night
Niko is Sidewinter's name.
for Aarnie, yes i plan to use more Alamdv effects: more fire ! and also some electric sparkling effects. But i don't know when because i don't knox when i'll possibly shoot the rest of the movie...
I hope it will be soon.
I'm also going to shoot a Fantastic,Goreand Gothic Superhero movie... maybe by October cause i have a lot of work in the summer.
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 9:51pm
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Tres bon film. Quand es-ce que tu va commence la reste du film?
Es-ce que to peut nous donne un synopse du film, et nous dire un peu a qu'es-ce qui vais arrive?
Posted: Sat, 13th Jul 2002, 10:07pm
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As i 've already said in a previous post, i don't know yet when i could possibly shoot the rest of the film.
First because i don't have much time and work all summer till the end of september ( i work as an A.D in france). And second because i don't have yet enough money to shoot the all film.
It's VERY VERY VERY difficult to shoot in the subway and also very expensive if you want to do it properly. That's why i'm actually looking for partners do find money for the film.
Because i want ALL the movie to be as good as the the teaser, it's hard to shoot it as a "commando".
The full movie (which is the first step to the feature film i plan to direct) it's about a homeless guy hunted by a deviant salaryman in a subway turned into a museum. Th all action takes place in an unknown time, where past, present and future are melt.
Posted: Sun, 14th Jul 2002, 12:02am
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I wish you all the best luck!
I know how difficult it is to get enough money for such a project together, but I have no doubts that you will convince everyone of your talent as a filmmaker and that you will be able to realize your fantastic vision!
I think this awesome teaser speaks more than words...
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 5:26am
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And congratulation for your TV film to come !
by the way, is it a film that you direct and plan to sell to TV or a project they asked you to direct ?
Can we know a bit more about this project ?
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 11:47am
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It is a film that I direct and plan to sell to TV. We were able to get to know some people from the TV and Cinema World with our last feature Film "Turicon" and they are standing behind us and helping us with "Face to Face" (the title of our new film).
But it's very unsure because it's an Independent Production, you surely know that.
Nevertheless we're producing the film ourselves (all tries to get money from firms and TVstations failed) and hope that everybody is keeping theyr promises. :)
The film itself is a drama about two brothers whose parents get murdered before their eyes when they're very young. A few years later, they live a life driven by revenge. They seek the killers of theyr parents with all methods necessary, so they soon get into organized crime themselves. People from a syndicate promise them to locate the killers they want, but in return they have to become cleaners for em.
The story is not that compicated, the films lives basically through the two very different brothers and theyr emotional fight against becoming more and more what they try to destroy.
We NCC-people stand mainly behind the camera and play certain small parts. Most of the actors are Pros, so it will be a huge jump from what we usually do... :)
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 2:38pm
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I just wanted to warn you; your plot outline is pretty close to a John Woo (his first US film, I think) movie with Van Damme in it called Hard Target. Its about a company who kidnap tramps and then rich businessmen pay to hunt them.
It was pretty dire and very eighties (Van D had a mullet!!!) so maybe it wouldn’t matter if your plot was close to it? But just so you know…
I haven’t downloaded your clip yet but I will tonight. Looking forward to it.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 11:32pm
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Just watched it: It was pretty damn awesome. 5 Star material, definetly. The effects were all very cool, and the securtity cam bits were really nice. I really liked the overall darkness of the clip. One of the best clips I've seen in the cinema secion in a while. Great job! Can't way to see the full movie
Posted: Wed, 17th Jul 2002, 7:28am
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thanx for all compliments.
Yes i know Woo's film and my story is quite different althought the pitch seems to be the same.
Thank you all fot your votes at http://www.cine-courts.com,
The Neon Night is now also the film with the best notes on this site !
But please, if you go at http://www.cine-courts.com
and want to give me your vote, please wath the film another time on this site (you can see it in streaming or download it in DIVX).
Thank you all
Posted: Fri, 19th Jul 2002, 7:56am
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i jus want to cancel the last post i've send.
DON'T GO TO AT http://www.cin
é-courts.com, the french site where the Neon night trailer was also visible.
Those guys are a bloody bunch of stoopid fuckers and i don't want the trailer on that site no more.
So i'm now looking for other sites where i could show the Neon Night trailer. Do you guys have any idea ?
Thanx for your support and long live AlamDV.
Posted: Fri, 19th Jul 2002, 8:15am
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Je crois que tu peux uploader tes creas. Ou alorshttp://www.mouviz.com/
ciao, longue vie a toi et a tes creations
Posted: Fri, 19th Jul 2002, 8:55am
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Merci ZAZ, je crois qu'Ifilm.com est un service payant mais bon je vais voir. Quand à Mouviz, je ne sais pas... si ils sont aussi cons que sur ciné-courts ça va pas le faire.
Posted: Fri, 19th Jul 2002, 10:14pm
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I want to apologize and to rectify one of my previous post abouthttp://www.cine-courts.com.
It seems that the insulting mail and post about me and my teaser were send by some fucker who just prentended to be one of the admins of the site.
All apologizes guys.
So you can still go there, watch the teaser and vote for it.
Thanx CBS-DIGITAL and all AlamDV users to be so cool an open minded. You guys rocks !
Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2002, 4:58am
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Histh limf asw geart! I rlleay lvode het ffectes! Hpoe ot ese meor morf ouy nda uory meta!
Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2002, 8:09am
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kanth ouy Kujiah-plif.
Posted: Sat, 20th Jul 2002, 11:22pm
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some of you seems to like my "security camera effect" a lot. i wonder, do you think it worth beeing turned into an AlamDV plugin ?
If it's so, i could think about it and with some help release it.
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 5:08am
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nah...the securtiy cam effect is pretty easy to do in editing suites, including imovie...especially with the new iPlugins".
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 7:00am
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sidewinder wrote:nah...the securtiy cam effect is pretty easy to do in editing suites, including imovie...especially with the new iPlugins".
It couldn't hurt having it as a plugin tho could it? :p (esp. for n00bs like me
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 7:09am
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Yeah, I agree. No harm in uploading, I could probably use it.
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 4:18pm
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Posted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2002, 12:00pm
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can't see the bleeding thing cos I don't have the crazy-ass codec.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2002, 12:17pm
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Good, very good,
sound excellent, lighting excellent.
the only thing i would say........
It gave nothing at all away about a story, (that i could see )
this would be needed to make me want to watch the whole film.
look forward to a proper trailer ( not just a teaser. )
( You guys should go far ) good luck.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2002, 9:46am
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Thank you all
more infos about the story of thi project will be online soon at http://lanuitdeneon.free.fr
The next step is shooting the rest of the film !
Some production company in France and Spain seems to have an interest about this project...
to be continued...
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2002, 12:36pm
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blueshift wrote:can't see the bleeding thing cos I don't have the crazy-ass codec.
Posted: Fri, 26th Jul 2002, 4:36am
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This movie clip is really professional looking. I like how it cuts from shot to shot. It really keeps the pace going. Really good job. This is definitely what I aspire to create.
Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2002, 5:30pm
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euh ben j'ai l'impression que j'ai pas le bon codec pour lire le film
est ce que tu peux le mettre dans un autre format?
Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2002, 8:23am
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wow... 59 users yesterday and only 44 today ...
Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2002, 8:26am
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There were a lot of dodgy votes on this movie - so I've deleted them. We will be keeping a look out more from now on.
Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2002, 8:46am
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I've been aware that there's a bunch of guys in france that steals IP's, codes and usernames in order to mess up some voting systems. They call themselves anticheaters but are only hackers who play with people's vote.
I had the same problem on a french site and tried too get that right wis my provider. I thought that there was no more problem.
I feel really sorry far all that mess, but have no idea of what to do...
Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2002, 8:50am
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Its fine, don't worry. There were just some odd votes - they are gone now and you are still near the top cause it is a great movie.
Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2002, 12:46pm
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Don't give too much about those votes encheval. We all have to deal with votes made out of jealousy or ignorance... :)
No matter how good your work is, you'll always find people that either really don't like it or just begrudge the success...
Posted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2002, 7:30am
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The production quality is the best I've seen on this site. Thanks to great editing, this teaser really paints a frantic image. Maintaining these strengths in an actual narrative will be a real challenge.
Good luck on the movie!
Posted: Thu, 8th Aug 2002, 12:33pm
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For those who wants some more infos about the Neon Night, go tohttp://lanuitdeneon.free.fr
The site is in French for now but an english version will be online soon.
nevertheless, the interface can be understood by english speaking people.
A new Real Video format is available. There are also photos ands infos.
Posted: Sat, 31st Aug 2002, 4:37pm
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I gave this a LOW score because the link doesn't work. I tried to download this before, but it didn't work. It's only now, that I comment and score it. It hasn't been working for quite sometime, since I last check it, which was about 3 weeks ago.
Fix the link, or upload it again.
Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2002, 3:54am
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Ricpride -- Just picking some of your replies and replying to them at random
you gave this a LOW score because the link didnt work ???
how can you rate this at all, i dont think your into movies one bit at all
your just picking up on things that wont work in your favour, actually do us a favour and come back here where your ready to discuss things in a proper fashion, all your ratings are void to me and proberly to everone else aswell
I want to see a Test/Movie/Short that you have done!!
Bring it on.....
Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2002, 4:16am
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You didn't answer my comment. Anyways, here's my question: What's with the link?
I thought by giving you a low score, and posting it, I would get your attention. I can always change it, right?
Sometimes, I would post questions, and I wouldn't get a reply, until forever.
When I am able to see it, I'll rate it differently.
And in reply to, "Bring it on...". Oh, don't worry, I'm working on it. But of course, people will give low score diliberately due to hating my guts, true? I would think so.
Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2002, 4:27am
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I will give a rating on what ive seen, not by dead links, if you make a good movie i will rate it accordingly, i never said i hated your guts but if you already think people are hating your guts then why are you here ?
you after a bad rep ? if so then no point on posting any movie here at all, as you know what you will get.
ive only seen stupid replies by you so far (not had chance to view all of them yet, i mean you sift through the cinema section fast, i cannot keep up) im sure you must have a good one in there somewhere
im just hoping for your sake that from all youve replied to actually means something --- you say all our tests/shorts are rubbish (in a manner) or could do with improvement (you dont really go into that much), with what youve said to so far you see that you have everything needed for your movie WHICH i CANNOT wait to see, and as i said before...
Bring it on....
Posted: Sun, 1st Sep 2002, 9:08am
Post 85 of 131
i've been away for a while so i couldn't reply on this forum.
You can't see the movie... you should get the latest quicktime update.
The link to the site is http://lanuideneon.free.fr
This link works on my computer.
You can also go to http://www.imaginason.net
Posted: Mon, 2nd Sep 2002, 11:42am
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I can't even write mi own adress correctly !
the site for the Neon Night ishttp://lanuitdeneon.free.fr
PS: Solthar, i've not seen your new film yet cause i'm not home and don't have my DSL. But i'm sure it rocks !
Posted: Mon, 2nd Sep 2002, 11:49pm
Post 87 of 131
I give a 4 stars because the movie is awesome!
Greet use of ALAMDV effects.
Bravo, I cannot wait to see the final film.
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Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2002, 12:23am
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Well, nobody ever told me that the movies on the site MUST have one ALAMDV sfx per shot... i thought that a sfx soft is designed to do the best effect possible on one particulary shot, not that it is designed to do a total demo film showing all your skills whith it...
Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2002, 4:14am
Post 89 of 131
c'est pas vraiment ça que je voulais dire
(et oui je parle très bien français (j'habite au Québec))
l'idée est bonne mais le teaser est endormant
le personnage principal ne fait que crier et courir... on n'a aucune idée de se qui va se passer dans se film.
Si j'aurais été toi j'aurais mi plus d'action
si tu veux voir des exemples de vrai professionnels va sur http://www.apple.com/trailers/
Posted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2002, 4:18am
Post 90 of 131
c'est pas vraiment ça que je voulais dire
(et oui je parle très bien français (j'habite au Québec))
l'idée est bonne mais le teaser est endormant le personnage principal ne fait que crier et courir... on n'a aucune idée de se qui va se passer dans se film.
Si j'aurais été toi j'aurais mi plus d'action
si tu veux voir des exemples de vrai professionnels va sur http://www.apple.com/trailers/
c'est vraiment moi qui a écrit ça c'est juste que j'était pas longin
pour pas mélé personnes
Posted: Fri, 8th Nov 2002, 2:20am
Post 91 of 131
Et bien, chacun son avis !
Il n'y a pas + d'action car le film est plus basé sur le coté Thriller / suspens que sur l'action pure. Le personnage ne fait que crier et courir, c'est vrai et c'est le thème pricipal du film: La FUITE et la RECHERCHE D'AIDE... C'est tres basique, mais ce n'est qu'un teaser presentant le pitch general du film, pas une Bande Annonce. Ce teaser était a l'origine prevu pour accompagner le Scenario.
Quand aux trailers sur Apple.com, j'y vais tres souvent mais la difference est qu'eux les font a partir de films terminés... moi je n'ai tourné QUE les plans du teaser...
Mais bon, toute critique est constructive.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2002, 7:31pm
Post 92 of 131
I have to say this film is interesting. Kind of sadistic, but interesting. 4 from me.
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 3:47am
Post 93 of 131
I haven't seen this video yet, I've just read some posts, and I've come to conclude that anything ricpride, and/or bob page posts about anything should be completely disregarded, as the two obviously have nothing truly constructive to say, and seem to have little to no background in film/cinema, on top of being blissfully ignorant mofo's.
as for ricpride "bringin' it on", of course you're working on it, you'll always be working on it, and surprise of surprises, you'll never have it, why? cause ya got nothing, son.
that being said, I will watch the film, and review and rate accordingly
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 3:52am
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now that I've seen it, and rated it a big, fat '5', I know for sure that ricpride and bob page are raving lunatics
f*cking amazing!! that was one of the most creative, and ispired teasers I have ever seen, I can't wait till you're done with the whole thing, I'll definitely view it. You are making a version with english dialogue or subtitles, yes? ah, screw it, even if you aren't, I'll still watch it for pure cinematography. . .
great job, I loved it!
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 5:24pm
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Thanx for the compliments and for the "big fat 5" !
The project (as i discussed it with Solthar) is still waiting for the moment because it's now nearly impossible to shoot in the Subway of Paris.
Because of some terrorist risks in France (it as been "bombed" a few years ago), there is cops and guards everywhere !
But when it is released, it will have english subtitles.
Nevermind what some may say about this teaser. I'm kinda proud of it an most of the peaople liked it.
Thanx for support (you can visit http://lanuitdeneon.free.fr
Posted: Thu, 12th Dec 2002, 9:34pm
Post 96 of 131
You sure can be proud of it... It really does look most professional of all videos here.
Posted: Tue, 7th Jan 2003, 9:30pm
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sorry about that... I wanted to give your movie a 4, and gave 2... I am trying to change that.
Posted: Sat, 11th Jan 2003, 9:49pm
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Well, i think you can ask Malone or any guys of the great CSB Digital team.
Anyway it doesn't really matters...!
But i'm glad to be back in the Top Ten nevertheless....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sun, 12th Jan 2003, 9:03am
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the next day... Great CSB team, they just erased my vote, and i voted again with the right amount of stars i wanted to give you. You deserve the top ten !
Posted: Sat, 18th Jan 2003, 3:31pm
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A-1 trailer. Very attention grabbing.
Posted: Sat, 18th Jan 2003, 5:19pm
Post 101 of 131
what did you use for the color correction? What settings did you use?
Posted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2003, 10:37am
Post 102 of 131
The Neon Night was my first attempt in color grading, so it's not perfect.
I firts did a straight correction in FCP 1.2.5, that is to say i just corrected the artifacts, the white balance problems (the camera i used had no manual white balance)...etc. But it was not perfect so in After Effects 4.1 i used the Channel Mixeras well.
Then, i made a color grading card in Photoshop and used it in AE to map the colors i wanted over my clips using different color layers in differents transfert modes.
I also used the Glow plugin for some clips (cool when you have a great amount of White in an image).
Posted: Tue, 28th Jan 2003, 3:26am
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I have to say that I totally and absolutely love this preview clip for La Nuit de Néon!
For me I found it was timed expertly. It was riverting and made me think of fabulous other movies like 'The Ring' (I loved the security video bit), Anatomie, Cube, Ghost in the Shell and Matrix... but all for different reasons and not entirely obvious ones either.
The music was an excellent choice too.
I just loved it! Loved it, loved it, loved it!
Looked and felt professional, and makes me green eyed!
Oh, I loved it.
Posted: Tue, 28th Jan 2003, 7:25am
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The music have been composed for this movie by a very brilliant artist (which is also one of my very best friends...lol)
You can hear more from him athttp://www.imaginason.net
Posted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2003, 1:58pm
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that is the most amazing trailer i have ever seen.... (in this community)
It is far far better than the ones for the big films!
Posted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2003, 1:59pm
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that is the most amazing trailer i have ever seen.... (in this community)
It is far far better than the ones for the big films!
Posted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2003, 4:41pm
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Posted: Sun, 2nd Feb 2003, 6:31pm
Post 108 of 131
Nice job, Nico!
Can't wait to see the full version !!!
Posted: Thu, 13th Feb 2003, 8:06pm
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Sound, editing and photography are all well done. My only suggestion would be to have titles on screen longer so they can be read. At the end this seems to have been done, but the first title that shows up goes away to quickly to read. Other than that I am looking forward to the complete release.
Posted: Sat, 15th Feb 2003, 12:40am
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I know this problem with the on-screen titles duration and i agree with you.
The font i had choosen at this time was not very readable too....
Posted: Tue, 18th Feb 2003, 7:37pm
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this is the most professional looking teaser or trailer I have seen on this site! shooting, editing, artistic and cinematic genious!
Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2003, 2:45pm
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I cannot see it, it still wants more! Is quicktime 6 not enough you pesky trailer?!?!http://vp3.com/getvp3/
Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2003, 2:52pm
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Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2003, 3:42pm
Post 114 of 131
Might I reiterate...
Bob, that still requires the codec, which I couldn't find
The ONLY place I could find the codec!!!
Now, back to work (I mean pretend to work and watch the trailer
Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2003, 3:50pm
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Alam History in the making. Curtin Parloe awards 5 stars!!! (Gasp!)
What can I say?
Posted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2003, 11:26pm
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Well, i dindn't understood all of your posts ... my bad English probably.
If you need the On2Vp3 Codec (which is sometimes hard to get from Apple website) just drop me a post and i will upload it so you can get it.
Hope you will enjoy the Teaser
Posted: Tue, 11th Mar 2003, 5:44pm
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The special Effects were sweet but I was a little confused on what was going on. And had a hard time reading the words. But the footage and sound and Effects were very Professional.
Posted: Sun, 30th Mar 2003, 6:37pm
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Wow, that certainly was different. Some very cool stuff.
I thought some of those shots at the beginning went by too quickly but I suppose you were trying to keep it short.
I had no problem with the codec, Quicktime 6 just moaned and then downloaded it. Why I have to download that when Quicktime 6 already does the superior MP4 I don't know? (I am not saying MP4 opens VP3 I am wondering why you didn't just compress as MP4)
I gave 4 stars, dropping only 1 because its a trailer and didn't do enough to earn 5 as a standalone clip in my opinion.
Posted: Sun, 30th Mar 2003, 11:31pm
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Why didn't i compressed it with mpg4 ?... Simply because when i did it the QT Mpeg4 didn't exist !!!!! it was QT5 at this time .
Posted: Mon, 31st Mar 2003, 1:23pm
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A good excuse, I'll let you off then
Posted: Mon, 21st Apr 2003, 3:38am
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All I can say guys is this is an amazing teaser and I can't wait to see more of your upcoming films. One thing I loved about your film was the quality of the film. To be honest with you, this is one of the best AlamDV films I've seen. Keep up the great work.
Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2003, 10:50pm
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You must have spent a lot of time in post! This film is the most mature technically I have seen on this site so far. Good lighting, tight editing, excellent use and combinations of FX, excellent sound design. And a brilliant idea that, to use Blue Screen to create depth of field. Nice job on the color correction too, must have been a pain to do (or a lot of render!
Now on to the negative points. Music is so-so for me, beginning was great but the techno bit felt rehashed (but hey! To everybody their taste!). The piece was cut to the beat and is functionnal, it's just not my style of music.
Too much use of the guy looking at the security cam. It's a very strong and powerful effect that gets weakened by overusage. By the end of the clip, I'm sick of it. That's one of the biggest weak points for me. That and the fonts you picked. They may be cool and slick but not readable, even on the big screen they would be hard to read, you have to think for a second (I do understand and read french, and I had to watch four times to get it!). Text is not long enough on screen either, which doesn't help.
Also, I understand that it's just a teaser, but outside of the killer, no character is defined. It leaves me a tad confused. All kinds of weird things seem to be happening and it's intriguing, I want to see more (therefore it works!) but I feel no emotion at all for the victim, except for the mood of dread that you very successfullly imposed on the piece.
This is why I gave it a 4 only. I know it's a long post but I feel your work deserves the most objective comment I could give. Impressive effort though. Good luck with the rest!
Posted: Sat, 26th Apr 2003, 2:45pm
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Thank you for your inerest and for taking the time of explaining what you liked / disliked.
For the music, i'm not a techno fan myself...really, but for this trailer i thought it worked well and gave the whole piece a real rythm so it's ok. If you want to listen to the real soundtrack, go to the official site and listen to some MP3's.http://lanuitdeneon.free.fr
For the font i used... you are definitely right. It can't be read properly and stand to short ont screen. A nasty beginner mistake.
For how many times i used the "video screaming guy", it have been discussed many times here. SOme think it's OK, some (like you) think i overused it.
Thank you for noticing the HUGE amount of work on Color Grading and SFX !
Posted: Thu, 26th Jun 2003, 10:05am
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I like this... It managed to evoke a good atmosphere in a short space of time. It is also one of the more professional looking pieces on here. Again, as with so many films in the cinema; it would be better if we could see a properly developed film to go with the trailer, which is why it only gets a 4. But I thought it was well edited and gave a good insight into what we might expect from a complete film.
Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2003, 9:04am
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i loved this film... er, trailer. great concept and superb cinematography! this director could go places... if, he developed it into a full-length feature. this is the kind of film i would be proud to make. i'm a BIG conspirasy nut, and the mysterious nature of this film really appeals to me. let me know if you have further plans for it... please?
Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2003, 9:40am
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Unfortunately, this project is over since i coulnd't raise enough money to finish it. Maybe one day...
Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2003, 7:31pm
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Bah... It hurts to hear that. I still think it's the visually most promising looking trailer on the site.
Posted: Thu, 23rd Oct 2003, 8:17pm
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Yes it hurts, i've been in touch with some producers but money never came so...
I'm looking forward for another project now (a feature film)
Posted: Fri, 24th Oct 2003, 5:04am
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Well, I´ll keep my fingers crossed for you!
Posted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004, 11:57am
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Sollthar wrote:Well, I´ll keep my fingers crossed for you!
Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2005, 5:16pm
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Awesome sound effects, awesome shots, awesome editing. No idea what the movie is about from watching this...but its awesome.