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Posted: Wed, 26th Mar 2008, 10:57pm

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Monica

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Okay, I know hohw to layer a greenscreen shot over a real shot to clone myself but I want to layer two shots(or maybe more) over eachother that have the same backround to clone myself. Is there a way I can do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed, 26th Mar 2008, 11:14pm

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Wow, have you been asking this question a lot without getting answered?

Just to be clear, you want to clone yourself without greenscreening? Yes it can be done; its called split-screen. The limitation is basically that the clones can't be overlapping. This tutorial explains the basics. It was originally written for Chromanator, which eventually evolved into CompositeLab, so the specific tools and their locations are a bit different these days, but the process is the same. I believe the tutorial is written up for two clones, but you can split the screen as many times as you can fit in the frame.
Posted: Thu, 27th Mar 2008, 2:42am

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MillerBros

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Are you saying you want to do two or more greenscreen shots on that one background? Yes, you can make as many layers as you want, just make two or more clips in front of a greenscreen, and after keying out the green on all of them, they can be placed anywhere on the screen. So...

Layer 4. Greenscreen(Keyed out of course)clone #3
Layer 3. Greenscreen clone #2
Layer 2. Greenscreen clone #1
Layer 1. Background (and with a clone if you want, it probably won't look real though)

etc. So really you can do as many greenscreen shots as you want in whatever order. If you're wanting to know how to do it without screening it, just use masks to do a split screen like Axeman said.

jonathan
Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008, 2:21am

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Monica

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First of all, yes, I've been asking this question and it keeps getting deleted or just ignored. Thanks Axeman, my greenscreen had a huge whole in it and my video project was due the day after. I've been noticing that you answer almost everyone's question (with a good answer) and you have all of the FX programs, are you like an FXstaff or something, or are yiu just a video freak? tard
Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008, 3:04am

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Axeman, AKA Axel Wilkinson, is FXhome's visual effects consultant.

No, I do not actually stalk him.
Posted: Fri, 28th Mar 2008, 4:49am

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I'm not part of the company, but being on the beta testing team I tend to get familiar with the programs as I try to push each feature to the breaking point. So frequently I am able to help people resolve their issues. The software related ones anyway.

And in my spare time, I'm a video freak.
Posted: Sat, 29th Mar 2008, 5:02pm

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Monica

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HELP! Everytime I split screen there's a big line down the middle of where I split the screen! How do I make things align? crazy
Posted: Sat, 29th Mar 2008, 7:26pm

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RodyPolis

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Monica wrote:

HELP! Everytime I split screen there's a big line down the middle of where I split the screen! How do I make things align? crazy
the only way you would get a big line would be if all the videos were not static. Or if you slightly moved the tripod by pressing start/stop button.

in case u can't reshoot, blur the edges of the mask so that it's less visible
Posted: Sat, 29th Mar 2008, 8:01pm

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Make sure you are using a very stable tripod first of all, as the slightest movement of the camera between shooting the first half and the second half will make the seams show. Also, you need to be aware of what is in the background. Filming outside for split screen is always tricky, because the smallest shift in the clouds can alter the lighting, resulting in the two halves ( or however many parts you are splitting it into) not blending perfectly at the seams. Also, if there is any foliage in the bg, it tends to shift around in even the smallest breeze, again revealing the split when you try to composite the halves together.

If you can provide a link to a frame or a small clip of the footage in question, we can likely help isolate the cause of your particular troubles if you need further assistance.
Posted: Sun, 30th Mar 2008, 4:00am

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MillerBros

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Yeah, make sure the lighting is the same, and if it's just slightly different, and you can see a faint line, you can feather it out- actually just feather it out anyway. Also, please don't let any shadows get cut off by the split whenever someone moves, it really bugs me whenever people do that.

jonathan