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Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 3:15am

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Does anyone know where i can get some type material for bluescreening?
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 3:35am

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Yes, I do. Search the forums, please. *ahem* I know there is a TON of stuff on this topic.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 3:37am

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i went to wal mart and bought some cloth there smile haha everyone will think im a wal mart junkie now...
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 4:41am

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Wal-Mart rules! ..... ok, go on.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 4:06pm

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i used some blue and green fabric from a fabric store.
Also you can buy poster paper in blue and green and it works VERY GOOD! I think they are like 75 cents each, and are about 2' x 3' or so.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 5:09pm

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I was looking at some green fabric at Wal-Mart just the other day, it was the perfect color, but it was very lightweight fabric. If you held it close, you could see through it.

Does anyone know if thos would be a problem to use for a large screen? I imagine it'd be useful for backlighting, but I'm afraid to have the background bleed through on outdoor shots.

Any advice guys?
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 5:28pm

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how are you gonna use it?
if you have it up againist a wall it should work.
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 8:55pm

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if u strecth it out onto a large frame (maybe one u can take apart for transport) then, u just need summit like lots of card, or pieces of wood, just to put behind, so no light shines through, if u see what i mean...

or u could double layer it, so that the material is twice as thick, that way the light may not be able to shine through...
Posted: Wed, 10th Jul 2002, 10:45pm

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I am stretching it over a collapsable PVC pipe frame. I plan to use it against things (leaning against a wall), and free-standing.

I think I might try pinning a white sheet to the back side of the screen to block any bleed-through.
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 12:17am

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that should work good!
what program are you using to chroma key?
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 12:31am

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yeah - that's basically what i was getting at, just i am an idiot and can't explain it very well lol
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 12:47am

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Now TMM, there are no idiots just people who dont know what the hell they are talking about. wink
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 3:09am

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jarar1

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TMM: I though that's what you were getting at.

bigj: I'm useing AE for my keying.
Posted: Thu, 11th Jul 2002, 3:12am

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bigjgrimz

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just make sure the actor doesnt cast any kind of shadow on the screen and it should work good!
Posted: Fri, 12th Jul 2002, 5:26am

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I personally use commotion for bluescreening. It works very well. The down side is that it costs a bit (unless you get the educational version).

-starx
Posted: Fri, 12th Jul 2002, 6:34am

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If you want really good (expensive) perfect chroma key fabric go to www.studiodepot.com also the flex drops work well, the paint work well too.
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 12:59am

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Check out this link. http://www.714cartel.com/bluescreen/bluesupply.shtml. It has bluescreen material for not much more than regular material. StarX, what's the educational version. I came across Commotion for $168 somewhere. Is that it, and what strings are attached?
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 2:22pm

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Education version means it is the full version, you just can't make any money using the program. they sell education versions to students/teachers/school faculty(sp?) You might want to look into it more yourself as I don't know all the details. To purchase the EDU version, I went to:

www.academicsuperstore.com

search for the software you are looking for (they have tons of stuff) and buy it.
Before they ship the software to you they need proof that you are a student/teacher/faculty. You can Fax them a report card, etc. look on their site for more information.

you can also check out the pinnacle systems home page for more info about commotion.

www.pinnaclesys.com

I think they have a section that talks about the educational version, but I can't find it right now.

Hope this helps.

-StarX
Posted: Mon, 15th Jul 2002, 8:45pm

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Hey, thanks, starX. biggrin That's a good idea, and it's not like I have the talent to make movies good enough to sell anyway. By the way, does anyone know if you are allowed to sell works with AlamDV? I'm not planning to, but just wondering.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 3:19am

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My guess would be yes. although I don't know 100%. Since you bought AlamDV, you can use it however you want, (as long as it follows the rules of the agreement you accepted when you first installed the program) Don't rely on my word though. Go on the chat and ask Schwar, Malone or any of the other big shots.

-starX

If any of this information is wrong, please tell me and i will edit/delete the post. thanks.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 3:22am

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Yeah you can sell your piece, but it's always nice and courteous to post them in the credits section. wink
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 3:43am

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Um, sorta. You can BUT you have to put the alamdv logo in the credits. If for some reason can't put the logo in the video, e-mail schwar. I think this is what it states in the agreement (i read about it in another post).
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 3:51am

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Hmm..i'm not disagreeing, but I think that is a little odd. I mean, do you see box office films putting their programs in the credits? :turd: But I could see why they would request that. Is there a copy of the license agreement I could read somewhere on the site? I can't find it.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 3:57am

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Well, usually usually you do see the software at the end of a movie. I remember seeing the Final Cut Pro logo at the end of some movies. The agreement should be included with the alamdv download.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 4:26am

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I checked the agreement. It says
"3.6 In the event that you produce a film (other than for your own use) in any format whatsoever which features special effects produced from the Software you may not distribute such film without having endorsed on the film the following credit caption located in the AlamDV2.tif file included in this install"

So according to the agreement that you accepted, you have to put the alamdv credit caption in there somewhere.

hope this helps

-starX
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 4:45am

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Alam and it's very distinctive plug-ins aside, how would anyone know what effects program I used on a video, much less whether or not is was an education version?

Edit: Just to clarify, I have every intention to properly credit the Alam team in my movies, it's the programs I use that I didn't pay for that I'm concerned with.

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Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 4:58am

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Really you couldn't. And I doubt Malone/Schwar would take that much legal action unless your film is making major $$$. Good find StarX.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 5:11am

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Still, it doesn't hurt to put it in. It's a very typical thing to do in the industry, putting logos at the end of the credits. Besides, it saves you legal trouble and looks cool biggrin
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 5:48am

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Oh hell yeah. I'd put every logo I could find in my movie, I'd use the toilet paper logo I had used while in the filming process. Logo's look cool, and make the film seem important biggrin
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 5:00pm

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Gee kids:

For starters, blue screen is normally green.
Green reflects less on actors an objects.

Use paint and wooden boards - you can alway rearrange them later.

It doesn't matter what the exact colour is, you just need to make sure
that the colour doesn't exist in the forground objects you WANT to see.
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 5:04pm

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Yeah, you could have a PINK screen, which is actually not bad, I've heard of people using it before and getting good results. I'm personally setting up a green screen stage now, Blue gets used too often (jeans, etc).
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 5:18pm

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the advantage to having a bluescreen instead of a greenscreen is that blue is complimentary to skin tone. so it makes your actors look nicer (on film at least). Plus, who wants to look at an ugly bright green screen all day. I painted my friends basement blue to use as a bluescreen, and the color doesn't hurt your eyes at all.

-starX
Posted: Tue, 16th Jul 2002, 7:10pm

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Hey starX, something interesting I found.

Q: What is the difference between the products offered in this catalog and the commercial versions of these products?

A: Nothing. Aside from the price, these products are functionally identical to the commercial versions. As a student, you are eligible to purchase software at educational discounts. (Autodesk software only: These are educational versions of software. Though functionally identical to the software used by professionals, it has been specially designed for educational use making it unsuitable for a professional production environment. This applies ONLY to Autodesk software.)

I found this at www.journeyed.com in the FAQ section. If I can interpret correctly, this means you can sell movies made with educational software as long as they aren't Autodesk software.
Posted: Wed, 17th Jul 2002, 1:54am

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I dodn't know much about autodesk, but before you go off selling movies made with Education version of software, i would check in depth at the site that made the software. I personally wouldn't take the chance of selling stuff and then getting sued.

-starX
Posted: Wed, 17th Jul 2002, 1:56am

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You could burn the academic software and your computer. Then you could say all your commercial was destroyed in the fire. Eh? neutral
Posted: Wed, 17th Jul 2002, 6:08pm

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Yeah, I would check into that before selling it just to be sure. And no offence, but burning the software and computer is kind of dumb, because you would have lost both and insurance won't pay you back if you do it on purpose. And what would you say to them? "I just walked in and it was on fire."?
Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2002, 10:47pm

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Well, I suppose computers do catch on fire quite often but...
What am I talking about!?! This is STUPID!
Posted: Sun, 28th Jul 2002, 2:55pm

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The easiest thing is to say that you SUB-CONTRACTED that
bit of the work out to someone else. And so you have no
idea what they used or whether it was licensed.

It's VERY rare that a bit of sotware's license would prevent
you from using it to do professional work. Not forgetting that
no software license agreement has ever managed to stand
up in court.

Just about all of the breach your statutary rights in the UK
under the Sale of Goods Act. So I wouldn't worry. And how're
they gonna sue you anyway? You're worrying about nothing.