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VisionLab questions

Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2008, 10:21am

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fertesz

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Hi,

I was obviously gone from Fxhome community for a while, so it's not a suprise a lot has changed. New products, new looks, Chromanator seems no longer supported and so on.

I was just looking into possibility of buying (such a rude word....) new software and I have great experience with Fxhome. I have EffectsLab upgraded from AlamDV2 so it didn't cost me anything, but on the other hand Chromy seems no longer up to date.

Anyway - VisionLab clearly attracts attention. I see I can get a nice discount for my currently owned products. Funny thing is - it doesn't seem to make a difference if I upgrade from one or two? Discount seems the same. So it is adviseable to upgrade from one, and save another for maybe a future discount? Pardon my saving-oriented logic, but my economics aren't great actually.

Another question - I've seen comparision tables and that VisionLab includes also the Power- and MuzzlePlug functionality. But what about other programs? It seems that VisionLab is Fxhome's powerhouse - best thing money can get you at Fxhome.com . It seems reasonable that it's more powerful than PhotoKey, though having VideoWrap functionality isn't that obvious. My point is - if I buy VisionLab, do I get all those great features that Fxhome developed over the years? VL is waaaaaay ahead other programs here in terms of price, so it just seems reasonable strategy to me. Like a AllInOneLab or something.

I am also aware of this crediting-Fxhome-in-your-movies thing and that you no longer 'need' to do this with VisionLab. Another thing that adds to this 'powerhouse' image of VisionLab.

I hope I am not copying any threads, I've done a short search (both search engine and a couple of most recent threads), and nothing came to my attention.
Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2008, 10:27am

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Simon K Jones

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Welcome back, fertesz!

In our current product range we have 3 separate areas:

1. The Lab Products (VisionLab Studio, CompositeLab Pro, EffectsLab Pro)
2. The utilities (PhotoKey, VideoWrap)
3. The plugins (MuzzlePlug, PowerPlug)

VisionLab incorporates all the features of CompositeLab and EffectsLab, plus lots of extras (more grading filters, the lightning engine, unified interface, commercial license etc).

Most of the features of MuzzlePlug and PowerPlug are also in VisionLab, as the AE plugins are derived from VisionLab tech.

PhotoKey and VideoWrap are totally separate products, though. VideoWrap is aimed at people that need to easily convert video for multiple destinations, while PhotoKey is specifically designed for greenscreen photography (NOT video stuff).

Hope that helps!
Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2008, 10:38am

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malone

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fertesz wrote:

Funny thing is - it doesn't seem to make a difference if I upgrade from one or two? Discount seems the same. So it is adviseable to upgrade from one, and save another for maybe a future discount? Pardon my saving-oriented logic, but my economics aren't great actually.
You will get a better upgrade price if you upgrade from both programs together.

Full price = €429
Chromanator upgrade price = €389
EffectsLab Lite upgrade price = €375
Chromanator + EffectsLab Lite upgrade price = €335

Please tell me if these are not the prices you are seeing in the store and I will try to work out what the problem is.
Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2008, 11:14am

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fertesz

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Wow... I did forgot how fast this community works eek Yet again I am impressed wink

Tarn - right, this division seems logical enough. So basically VisionLab is all the "Lab" stuff, plus some extras? All-in-one product in it's own category.

Still, it does include most plugin features. Is that a trend? I mean - if new plugs appear, can we expect those functions to be included in VL, or is it a kind of one time bonus?

My PhotoKey remark was about if we can't get similar results with VL? I know there are plenty of people who only need still image stuff in terms of greenscreening, but if someone owns VL - isn't it able to do the same job just as good, if not better? We all need to use single frame from our videos from time to time.

So we have yet to see the UltimateLab, if you guys ever happen to bring one to life that is smile My doubts were caused by VL being more expensive then EL and CL combined, hence my question. I understand that this difference is filled by plugin features, bonuses and license thing?

Malone - you are right of course redface Don't know how I came to my previous conclusion - sorry for stupid question then smile Had some problems apparently, either with my CPU/i-net, or with my perception...

And thanks guys biggrin I still like it here wink
Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2008, 12:11pm

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Simon K Jones

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fertesz wrote:

Still, it does include most plugin features. Is that a trend? I mean - if new plugs appear, can we expect those functions to be included in VL, or is it a kind of one time bonus?
The current plugins were in VisionLab before they were plugins. If we develop independent plugins then it'll depend on lots of factors as to whether they make it back into VisionLab.

My PhotoKey remark was about if we can't get similar results with VL? I know there are plenty of people who only need still image stuff in terms of greenscreening, but if someone owns VL - isn't it able to do the same job just as good, if not better? We all need to use single frame from our videos from time to time.
VisionLab can handle still images fine, but only up to standard HD video resolutions. If you're working with large megapixel still photographs, then you'll want to check out PhotoKey.
Posted: Mon, 14th Apr 2008, 12:40pm

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fertesz

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Tarn wrote:

VisionLab can handle still images fine, but only up to standard HD video resolutions. If you're working with large megapixel still photographs, then you'll want to check out PhotoKey.
Good point, thanks smile