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Posted: Thu, 17th Apr 2008, 1:14am

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FXhomer5678

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Hello, I've been using the FXHome Effectslab Pro for almost a year now, and I was thinking about something that could save HDD space.

First, let me tell you a number of issues I have when trying to use both Sony Vegas and Effectslab Pro:

The videos I make range anywhere from 5-10 minutes. Whenever there is a specific part of my movie that needs a gunbarrel flash or an explosion, you would think I could just take that one part and render it into an .avi format and add the effect. Well, when I export the file to a .avi file and put it back into Vegas, that particular piece of footage's color is messed up. They look brighter and just plain bad altogether and doesn't match the rest of the movie at ALL.

So render the whole movie? Ok. The codec for HDV footage isn't on my computer, so that's buggered. When uncompressed, the filesize IS HUGE.

Anyway, enough about that.

It would be a GIFT FROM HEAVEN if FXHome products could import/export .wmv files. Why? They're smaller, but one can still get a good--even GREAT--quality from those files. (I realize that many people use Macs for video, but many-MANY people can't/won't/can't afford one).

So, if you could just add this feature, I'm sure it would cut down on HDD space taken up by video files and such and we'd still be able to get a great quality file from them.

If not, I'll just have to grin and bear it, but thanks for listening.
Posted: Thu, 17th Apr 2008, 1:42am

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Axeman

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The problem with WMV files is that you may be ale to get a good quality file once, but as soon as you start re-rendering that file, the massive amounts of compression involved rapidly degrade the footage.

If you really want to work with smaller, low-quality files, there are plenty of Quicktime codecs that compress just as small as WMV, and are supported by the Lab products. But I wouldn't recommend using them either, until your final output.
Posted: Thu, 17th Apr 2008, 11:59am

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Simon K Jones

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Also, you shouldn't be losing any quality with the AVI format. If you are, then it'll be due to using a low quality/high compression codec.

As Axeman says, the WMV format is unsuitable for editing purposes due to quality drop. It's also not very compatible. Generally it's to be avoided. smile
Posted: Tue, 29th Apr 2008, 11:31am

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RDMSstudio

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I use huffyuv to compress rendered files.
Unfortunately you need to deactivate sound otherwise you get an unreadable file (any idea why guys?). Besides that little glitch, you get around 4:1 compression of HD files and the quality is superb !!!
Multiple passes of huffyuv produce no visible degredation.

If your lucky enough to have Mainconcept MPEG encoder you won't believe the results when converting HD avi files to standard DVD MPEG-2. DO NOT USE EDITING PROGRAMS TO MAKE MPEG-2 FILES !!! They all do a terrible job.
Posted: Thu, 1st May 2008, 12:42pm

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Link123456

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I have to say, while avi is a good quality file, it is quite annoying it is the ONE AND ONLY file supported by Effects lab, which is slightly inconvenient. (Well, quicktime files as well, I suppose).

And despite that fact that wmv's are low quality after first render at least the option would be there.
Posted: Fri, 2nd May 2008, 9:32am

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RDMSstudio

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I guess the bottom line is always going to be preservation of quality for archiving and future manipulation. For a company that takes it's products seriously, the bias will always be towards HQ files.
I doubt that this will be much of a complaint in an few years as hard drives are getting bigger and cheaper ....
Posted: Tue, 6th May 2008, 8:53am

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Simon K Jones

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Link123456 wrote:

I have to say, while avi is a good quality file, it is quite annoying it is the ONE AND ONLY file supported by Effects lab, which is slightly inconvenient. (Well, quicktime files as well, I suppose).
AVI and MOV files are the two most common and most compatible video formats, so if you're going to support anything, those are the ones to support. smile

They both support a huge range of codecs for all kinds of uses.