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Movie made in 10 min(poster in 3min)

Posted: Fri, 9th May 2008, 2:34pm

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I did do this movie when i didnt have nothing anything to do, so i desided to do a movie in 10 min.
It isnt that good and all whas done so fast.


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Posted: Fri, 9th May 2008, 2:47pm

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manchesser wrote:

Movie made in 10 min
I'm surprised it took that long.
Posted: Fri, 9th May 2008, 4:10pm

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It isnt that good and all whas done so fast.
If you know that your video is entirely no good, which it isn't, it's just random text in a random font and then a random filter applied on a random shot in random 10 minutes, then why on earth would you upload it to a website for other people to look at?

Seriously, what you thought that this is of any interest to anyone is entirely beyond me... Care to explain? Maybe I'm not seeing something here?
Posted: Fri, 9th May 2008, 4:46pm

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Sollthar wrote:

It isnt that good and all whas done so fast.
If you know that your video is entirely no good, which it isn't, it's just random text in a random font and then a random filter applied on a random shot in random 10 minutes, then why on earth would you upload it to a website for other people to look at?

Seriously, what you thought that this is of any interest to anyone is entirely beyond me... Care to explain? Maybe I'm not seeing something here?
I agree.
Why'd you put it in the cinema?


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Posted: Fri, 9th May 2008, 9:08pm

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And I'm surprised that 3 minutes were necessary for the poster. You just put text and some scribbles on a black background.

On the other hand, I did like the wave effect in the credits (though rather simple, it was a nice touch).
Posted: Fri, 9th May 2008, 11:45pm

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Come on man, you didn't even film the shot. It came with my Vista. And one question, explain the purpose of this video. What were you trying to make us see? I'm not being sarcastic, I just think there should be a logical explanation.
Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008, 10:32am

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All I can assume is that this is, in fact, a deeply satirical look at the nature of amateur filmmaking/broadcasting on the Internet. It's a comedy so infused with sarcasm and irony that it's almost impossible to detect.
Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008, 3:00pm

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It's kinda hard to believe that this is what the cinema has come. There's still a lot of good movies being submitted, but ever since the support of YouTube links, people have started submitting very, very small tests that probably would be better suited for YouTube and not the cinema. But don't get me wrong, it's great that people are able to use YouTube links, so everyone can put their movies in the cinema even if they don't have any webspace, but it would be nice if there was a way to filter out some of the pointless two-second clips of nothing that are getting submitted into the cinema.
Another thing I think the cinema might benefit from, is if the tests and the movies were more clearly separated. Right now it seems to me that things almost get rated unfairly sometimes: if someone puts in an effects test and the effects come out really, really good, it might get a five star rating. And if someone puts in a short film that's pretty good, it might get a four star rating. But does the short film, in reality deserve a better rating than the effects test simply because it is a film? If the film actually had as good or better effect than the effects test than it still would have a chance of getting rated worse if the other aspects of it aren't that great. If the tests and the movies were more separate, than their ratings would be more fair, I think. There could be #1 movie in the box office and a #1 test too.

Wow. When I started to write this post, I didn't have any idea I would be ranting about my suggestions for the cinema. eek


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Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008, 3:09pm

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Yeah, this is an old debate. Test movies actually are usually marked as 'test'. Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to actually exclude them from searches etc like you used to be able to - one to run past malone, I guess.

As for all the little 'silly' movies and tests that are being submitted in addition to the 'proper' films: this is actually how things have always been at FXhome.com. However, it all trailed off a bit a couple of years ago, probably around the time you joined. This was mainly due to everyone moving over to YouTube etc.

The cinema in 2002-5 (ish) used to look EXACTLY like it does now*, except everyone would host their own stuff. Until we allowed YouTube into the cinema, all we had were the 'proper' movies, and we only get a handful of those a month.

I think the mixture of serious and fun movies works well and makes the FXhome.com cinema and entertaining place to check out. I'm not concerned about the voting system either, really. The monthly Top 10 is usually pretty accurate and it's usually the 'proper' movies that sit at the top. Same goes for the all-time archive, in which quick tests rarely have high positions compared to full movies. So it seems to balance itself out in the end.

* Well, except that the great movies these days tend to be considerably greater than the great movies back then. And there's also lots MORE of everything. smile
Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008, 4:38pm

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Jabooza wrote:

It's kinda hard to believe that this is what the cinema has come.
I completely, completely disagree.

Maybe it's because (this is actually probably the reason) I've been on the site for longer than you, but the stuff of today- even the poorer YouTube videos- are a far cry from the lackluster content of three years ago.

As time has gone by, we've seen a proliferation of talent from filmmakers who learned from this site and grew with their knowledge. Now, just looking at the last two or three months, we've seen great submissions from all kinds of people, especially those who have matured their talents largely from what they learned on here. The Sphinx, Everything's Coming Up Roses, Apt. 14, The Terra-Cotta Soldier, Messages, Cover's Redemptiathon, the skits from Komikarate and a lot more has surfaced in recent weeks; and I think that it's all great.

Not to mention that even the videos of slightly lower technical quality are still though-provoking and insightful. We've seen 'Atheism?' and now 'Global Warming: Overhyped', both of which offer counterpoints to important issues.

This is, of course, excluding the larger projects released on FXHome (relatively) recently like the circulating bodies of work of ashman, Sollthar, Evman, hell- even you and I!

What I am simply saying is that FXHome's cinema may look like it's going down as of late- but really it's expanding its reach. What used to just be a stockpile of half-hearted effects tests is now a library with a breadth of genre and even more variety. So even if you see one of the worse cinema films out there, just keep in mind that there are people who try and put good stuff into the cinema and it's important not to demean the institution itself; for that demeans the people who are a part of it.
Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008, 5:12pm

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What I meant by that was that, although there are many more good movies than ever, there are also more small simple effects tests as ever too.
Although, you may be right, it might just be that I haven't been here for that long and there used to be lots of small pointless effects tests a long time ago too.

But again, I didn't mean to say that the cinema as a whole was going downhill, because as you mentioned there is a lot of quality stuff that's been coming in recently. I just meant that it seems that there's a bit of an overflow of two second YouTube videos that don't really have much of a point. smile


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Posted: Mon, 12th May 2008, 11:20pm

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I've been on here for about a year now and I can say that I'm glad how it turned out. We are getting few "not so good stuff", but look at the Movie Archives. A lot of the 4.5 rating movies aren't even that good. Seriously, some of them I'd give a 2. Now why are they rated so high? I think it's because things were brand new. Let's say Atom does 2 push ups, and I do 20. I'd probably get a 5 star. But if Ben does 40, then he would get a 5 star and I would have a 2. What I mean is that the reason you might think the cinema is going down is because we have higher expectations now.

Let's take "The Test" by Sollthar, it has a 4.5 rating. Now let's take "The Archer" by Otolicoss. See what I'm saying. Personally I like the Archer better. It uses much more different kinds of effects and more original and complicated ones. Now why doesn't "The Archer" have have a 4.5 rating, because we're past that. Now we want to see much serious stuff with a story, good acting, good directing and cool effects. So it's not the cinema that's getting bad, it's just us that are tired of the same old things and want more effort to be put in the movies. Back then "The Test" could have been the stuff, but I'm if it got uploaded today it wouldn't do so good.
Am I right or am I wrong?
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 3:02am

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The further you go back, Rody, the less easy it is for guys like us to make movies because of technology and cost and thus they're given more points and more credit for their efforts.

That, and there were obviously much, much fewer people on here back in the old starting days. Heck, even when I joined there were only a handful of the same old people who voted on movies. I being one of them.

There's no need to get in a ruffle about it. Really. I get what you're trying to say, but your push-up analogy is more convoluted than what you're actually saying. Not to mention 'The Archer' is nowhere near as close to as good as 'The Test'. smile
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:28am

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Heh, that push-up analogy was one of the most confusing things I've read for a while. razz

I think it'd be really interesting to do a comparison between the evolution of the FXhome.com cinema and 'cinema' itself. There are certain parallels that I think would make for an interesting paper, if I had the time:

- Both start out with random test shots, literally just seeing what is possible and trying to figure our a 'language'.

- Over time technology and technique improves.

- People start to incorporate stories into their works, albeit in a simple manner.

- Filmmakers start moving beyond gimmicks with a desire to make 'proper' short films.

Etc.

I think the great thing about the way the cinema has gone is that we used to have essentially just one type of film submitted - the effects test/short action sequence.

Now we've got documentaries, comedies, drama, action, sci-fi, animation, surreal, horror, fantasy, war movies, music videos......

Awesome.
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:52am

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ben3308 wrote:


As time has gone by, we've seen a proliferation of talent from filmmakers who learned from this site and grew with their knowledge.
Except me, who still sucks.



(This movie was rather terrible, but clearly, the creator is coming from basically the absolute ground up, so I suppose I don't really have any blunt criticism to unload)
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 2:01pm

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Bryce007 wrote:

ben3308 wrote:


As time has gone by, we've seen a proliferation of talent from filmmakers who learned from this site and grew with their knowledge.
Except me, who still sucks.
Sucks? I haven't seen any of your movies except for The Hit, which was very, very good. I don't know what could make you think you suck. unsure
You should put The Hit into the cinema.


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Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 6:47pm

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Bryce didn't use FXHome products for any part of it, Jabooza. unsure

Now if he just bought VideoWrap! he could add it, but that's another story. smile
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:25pm

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Sorry if my analogy was confusing. What I meant was that something is only the best until something else tops it. So if I did 20 push ups I would be considered awesome, but when someone else does 40, 20 push ups is now crap.
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:27pm

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I think the term you're searching for is "paradigm shift".
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:29pm

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20 push ups is now crap.
That's where your analogy fails. That something has been topped doesn't make it "crap". Things have to be seen in their context. The world doesn't only work black and white, my friend. smile
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:42pm

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Sollthar wrote:

20 push ups is now crap.
That's where your analogy fails. That something has been topped doesn't make it "crap". Things have to be seen in their context. The world doesn't only work black and white, my friend. smile
Correct. But I think what he's saying is that 20 in the context of being compared to 2 (or whatever the smaller number was) seems great, whereas 20 in the context of being compared to 40 doesn't seem that great any longer. And since the cinema is getting better (this is part of his argument- I probably haven't been around here long enough to know if the cinema is getting better or worse) then you have to look at things like this movie in the context of comparing them to well made dramatic short films, and they no longer stack up (if indeed they ever did stack up in the first place.)

Wow, that was a lot longer than I originally intended.
Posted: Tue, 13th May 2008, 8:57pm

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Rating: +1

Well, either way, movies made in ten minute never get a good rating.

And that's that.