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35mm Adapter for Sale

Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 1:55am

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I built a 35mm adapter for Evman, who backed out after he blew his money on a shiny MacbookPro. So I have an extra 35mm adapter sitting around. The parts cost me $150, I am listing it on ebay for $120 (or you can buy it guaranteed at $199, no auction). It's hard to get a 35mm adapter in this price range without building it yourself.

The item is the one I made this tutorial on how to build:
http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32506
But inside it has new filters, and the Canon Ee-a screen, which is much better quality and brighter than the Nikon D screen I used in my adapter. Here's the auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180243531673
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 2:34am

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how much of an f-stop hit does it take, and is there a flip ability and what type lenses does it take? I guess focus pull is out of the question smile

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Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 4:07am

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EvilDonut wrote:

how much of an f-stop hit does it take, and is there a flip ability and what type lenses does it take? I guess focus pull is out of the question smile

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I haven't measured the light loss on the Canon Ee-A screen, but I will definitely do that. It's probably just as bad as any other out there, the Canon Ee-A screen is fairly top-of-the-line for the job. But I'll get back to you with exact measurement tomorrow.

Focus pull is certainly possible. Kind of awkward without rails + follow focus, but guerilla filmmakers always find ways around it. I managed to pull off focus pull shots very well without a monitor and just by focusing it like a photography lens. The result looked great,

There is no flip ability, unfortunately. So it requires a mirror, a camera that has flip feature, a monitor, or coordination. Honestly, I would highly recommend a monitor in general, it's really tough to nail the focus on a camera LCD screen, and focus on a 35mm camera (adapter in this case) can often be razor thin. 35mm adapters with flip are usually several hundred, if not thousand dollars. If you spend that much on an adapter, you should really have a monitor for focusing anyways, so the flip wouldn't be as helpful as it would to someone on a lower budget. Getting a cheap monitor is the closest thing to a middle ground in terms of 35mm adapters and your budget. I know you know most of this, this info is for others.
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 4:20am

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I want this. I'll pull the money together as soon as I can and get back to you.

I'm sure you'll agree I could put it to good use.
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 4:25am

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ben3308 wrote:

I want this. I'll pull the money together as soon as I can and get back to you.

I'm sure you'll agree I could put it to good use.
I do, I'd love to see your cinematography skills with interchangeable lenses. Uber wide lens, like my 17mm (to 40mm zoom) looks so sick. Lenses make so much stuff possible.

If you are using this on your HD cameras, I would look into adding the vibrating motor from http://jetsetmodels.info (same adapter as this one), as the high res might pick up on details in the ground glass. You could definitely start off with this, adding the pancake motor isn't a difficult task and can be done later. If you do buy this adapter, I can throw in an extra extension tube piece so if you do want to make it vibrating, you can just add the parts to the new piece of tube at the right distance, move the ground glass to the new piece, and screw it on to the adapter.
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 4:37am

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What a dick move, Evman. razz
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 6:38am

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Super interested in this. Good thing my B-Day is this month biggrin.
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 5:56pm

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What a dick move, Evman. razz
Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this... oink
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 6:59pm

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He felt rather bad about it. I believed he used "dick" more than twice in his apology, describing himself. But yeah... wink

Right now I have 3 people officially watching the auction, two people on FXH expressing interest, and I've received a message from Germany and Australia regarding a shipping question. So looks like it will turn out fine in the end, don't feel too bad Evan. smile
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 7:15pm

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It's not that I bought the MBP specifically, it's rather that I have no money, can't find a job, and thought I needed the adaptor when I ended up not needing it at all. It'd be at waste in my hands, it deserves a better owner.

And yes, I did use the word dick (describing myself) several times in my apology.

Glad to see there's interest, cause I did promise that I'd buy it if he couldn't find anyone else. wink
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 7:48pm

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Evman wrote:

cause I did promise that I'd buy it if he couldn't find anyone else. wink
That's not what he said.

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Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 7:54pm

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EvilDonut wrote:

Evman wrote:

cause I did promise that I'd buy it if he couldn't find anyone else. wink
That's not what he said.

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Ugh... now I'm just an a-hole I guess.

The chain of events:

1 - I promised Serpent that I'd buy the adaptor
2 - I become poor and can't pay him/don't actually need the adaptor anymore.
3 - I promise him to help him find someone else to buy the adaptor OR, I'd buy it from him. (This is what I meant when I said what I said in my last post).

Hope that clarifies things.
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 8:15pm

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Evman wrote:

Ugh... now I'm just an a-hole I guess.

nah. At least you're saying something and owning up. Unlike someone else who may run and hide and say nothing.

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Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 10:15pm

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Working with an adaptor is much easier with a decent monitor. If you can't use a decent monitor then try a portable DVD player/TV with a composite in socket. it's a cheap nasty solution, but massively better than just trying to use the camera view finder
Posted: Fri, 16th May 2008, 10:25pm

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pdrg wrote:

Working with an adaptor is much easier with a decent monitor. If you can't use a decent monitor then try a portable DVD player/TV with a composite in socket. it's a cheap nasty solution, but massively better than just trying to use the camera view finder
I agree. I have used a portable DVD player with a 10" screen when ever I am not filming in the studio. It is not the best method, but it works on the go as it is light, portable and can run on bettery or car power. It also has an LCD screen. I have found that it is much easier to use this than to use the small viewfinder built into the camera.
Posted: Sat, 17th May 2008, 3:20am

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DVStudio wrote:

pdrg wrote:

Working with an adaptor is much easier with a decent monitor. If you can't use a decent monitor then try a portable DVD player/TV with a composite in socket. it's a cheap nasty solution, but massively better than just trying to use the camera view finder
I agree. I have used a portable DVD player with a 10" screen when ever I am not filming in the studio. It is not the best method, but it works on the go as it is light, portable and can run on bettery or car power. It also has an LCD screen. I have found that it is much easier to use this than to use the small viewfinder built into the camera.
Make sure you use some sort of 'hood' - so you're not trying to view your monitor surrounded by sunlight.

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Posted: Wed, 21st May 2008, 1:06am

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Dang, if I only had a GL2... and $200 dollars...

This was mentioned on indymogul, wasn't it?
Posted: Wed, 21st May 2008, 6:45pm

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Thrawn wrote:

Dang, if I only had a GL2... and $200 dollars...

This was mentioned on indymogul, wasn't it?
My tutorial was, yeah.

You don't need a GL2 for this adapter, but it makes it much easier. If you have another camera, you'll need to buy a stepdown ring, or a stepdown ring + macro lens. Macro lens addons are usually about $30, and stepdown rings are less than $10 (just a ring, no glass). However the $200 is basically a requirement. wink
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2008, 5:08am

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How sturdy is this thing? It looks like it would break off the front of the camera, being that it's longer than the camera itself.... I don't want to buy it, just wondering.
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2008, 8:55am

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Does it work with the FX1?
If so, I'd be interested in buying it too, if you haven't chosen already.
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2008, 9:10am

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Aculag wrote:

How sturdy is this thing? It looks like it would break off the front of the camera, being that it's longer than the camera itself.... I don't want to buy it, just wondering.
I imagine that's why it's got the large piece of wood underneath to support it all.
Posted: Thu, 22nd May 2008, 6:24pm

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Yeah, I recommend using the piece of wood or rails. I use heavy lenses too. I've done a few handheld shots with my tiny 50mm prime with no problem, but I had my hand on it the whole time just in case.

As for working with the FX1: I honestly don't recommend buying my adapter for a high def camera unless you were prepared to spend an extra $80, as well as doing some manual modifications (see below, you'd have to do this on your own). Basically, high def cameras will pick up things like details in the glass that standard def cameras don't because of the resolution, so you'd have to make the glass vibrate. All the info on modifying it can be found here:

http://jetsetmodels.info

If you go this route, I can send you the device I used to position the ground glass holder the exact distance it needed to be inside the tubes and after that it's pretty straight forward.

On top of that, you'd have to buy a cheap stepdown ring so the adapter would actually screw on to the front. That will run you $10 USD or so.
Posted: Sun, 8th Jun 2008, 7:19am

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I'm assuming you sold the unit, but I thought it was worth asking: do you still have the adapter? I got some graduation money in the mail the other day with an adapter's name on it. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 9th Jun 2008, 3:43am

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ben3308 wrote:

I'm assuming you sold the unit, but I thought it was worth asking: do you still have the adapter? I got some graduation money in the mail the other day with an adapter's name on it. biggrin
It's been sold and shipped. I still have all the parts for my adapter that I built for me, but you'd have to purchase new ground glass on the net, and it would be a Nikon D screen and not the Ee-A. If you wanted the Ee-A screen, you'd have to pay for that, as well as an Ee-A holder from JetSetModels.info and I could put it in. So if you're desperate, all that can be arranged.

To others: I'm not building any more adapters for now.