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Treasure of the Templars: 10 minute preview

Posted: Wed, 28th May 2008, 10:27am

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In honor of the release of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the crystal skull, Reelvision and Timeless Entertainment present a special 10 minute preview of Treasure of the Templars. The final release of the film is almost less than a month away. Visit www.treasureofthetemplars.com for more information. Be sure to visit the forum as well, and ask questions if you have any. We will be happy to respond.

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Posted: Wed, 28th May 2008, 11:42am

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The 1st release image of the final poster. Sill needs some tweaking.
This 12 minute preview is also not the final cut. Just a preview of what is to come.
Posted: Wed, 28th May 2008, 12:09pm

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Awesome stuff! Your team has captured the Indy/adventure vibe almost spot-on. My favourite bit has to be the "I don't hit girls" "I'm not a girl, I'm a woman" *THWAMMO* bit. smile

My only real bit of advice would be on the visuals, specifically the grading. The opening night-time scene was great, but the daytime stuff had a slightly 'raw' look, as if it was straight from the camera. A richer palette would help to give it that sweaty, burnished Indy look.

Great stuff, though I would say be careful about using the actual Indy theme towards the end, as I wouldn't want you guys to get into any legal tangles!
Posted: Wed, 28th May 2008, 4:42pm

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This is fantastic! Wardrobe, props, locale, actors etc. all grab the feel of the series. I am really looking forward to this!

There's that one guy that looks like he was in Spies Like Us (the silver/white haired guy).
Posted: Wed, 28th May 2008, 6:22pm

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Tarn wrote:

Awesome stuff! Your team has captured the Indy/adventure vibe almost spot-on. My favourite bit has to be the "I don't hit girls" "I'm not a girl, I'm a woman" *THWAMMO* bit. smile

My only real bit of advice would be on the visuals, specifically the grading. The opening night-time scene was great, but the daytime stuff had a slightly 'raw' look, as if it was straight from the camera. A richer palette would help to give it that sweaty, burnished Indy look.

Great stuff, though I would say be careful about using the actual Indy theme towards the end, as I wouldn't want you guys to get into any legal tangles!
Thanks!
I'm sure everyone will appreciate the input given so far.
The day sequence was shot on a canon XL-1s, I'm pretty sure. The rest of the movie was shot on a Canon XL-2. If it gives you any idea how long this has taken, that scene was shot in 2004. biggrin

Here's a short behind the scenes clip which shows some of
the compositing work on the opening sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wku8vctBtFA

Thanks again!
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 7:07am

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Not trying to be rude, but isn't this almost exact same thing already submitted to the cinema under your username like 2 years ago? I know you've said it's been in postproduction, but why put the same thing you already have up in the cinema on a separate, new page? (other than the obvious reason to please people and gain more attention smile)

Also, WhiteShark.......er.....Ouellette, what role did you have in this movie? I've always wondered that, since by your profile info you'd be about 12 during the making of this movie. And while I'm questioning things, I think it's humorous how the 'A _______ ______ Film' name of the person changes from the last thing you uploaded of Templars on here to this one. smile
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 8:33am

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One thing I would say is that the opening burial scene is a little odd. If they're trying to bury him (in other words, kill him), why do they leave him alive? Especially when he then escapes from the shallow grave so easily. If they're killers, surely they'd hit him with a spade to make sure? smile Or at least keep an eye on the grave to make sure he doesn't pop out.

What might have worked better is if the audience saw that Indy was still alive and breathing, but the bad guys didn't. So we then know that Indy is just biding his time, and it makes sense that the bad guys all wander off.
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 2:33pm

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this was simply incredible:) it could be a real pro movie... im loking foward to see the rest
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 4:44pm

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Atom wrote:

Not trying to be rude, but isn't this almost exact same thing already submitted to the cinema under your username like 2 years ago? I know you've said it's been in postproduction, but why put the same thing you already have up in the cinema on a separate, new page? (other than the obvious reason to please people and gain more attention smile)

Also, WhiteShark.......er.....Ouellette, what role did you have in this movie? I've always wondered that, since by your profile info you'd be about 12 during the making of this movie. And while I'm questioning things, I think it's humorous how the 'A _______ ______ Film' name of the person changes from the last thing you uploaded of Templars on here to this one. smile
Yeah.
That’s right. I was 13 when I asked if I could help out with this movie. Its not a secret or anything, I've posted this time and time again, I help with distribution of the film, and publicity. I also do file management for the website, for the video files, and some graphic design for the backgrounds. I also built a custom stunt whip for the movie to be used in swinging stunts. The reason my name changed so many times was because I was trying to use a name that was not used by anyone else. I was not trying to be sneaky or anything. biggrin Just got fed up with the "studio" names I was choosing getting copyrighted, so I used my last name instead.

There is a major difference between what was up before, and this clip, not just length wise, but the editing is also a lot more refined. The main reason this was released was to coincide with the premiere of Indy 4, and this was posted on a few different Indiana Jones fan websites, that was the main purpose. The original goal was to release it on the 22nd but that ended up not being possible. Just figured people on here would like to see how the final film will actually look.

I'm not trying to be sneaky Atom. razz I'm just OBSESSED with the old Indiana Jones films, and this is a project that I really wanted to be a part of, but as you stated, because of my age it was impossible to be on set. I'm posting it here on behalf of the production crew. I talk with the producer and director on a pretty regular basis, setting up screenings etc. I am not just posting other peoples work, if that’s what you were thinking.

no worries.

Adam

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Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 5:27pm

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I dunno how people get us so confused. We have different names and avatars. Is it a word-association thing, or what?

EDIT: I'm changing my signature. Maybe that'll help things.
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 5:47pm

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If I'm not mistaken,
that IS your face in Atoms avatar. razz
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 10:38pm

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Hey bro that was really cool, could u tell me where u got the intro font?
Posted: Thu, 29th May 2008, 11:47pm

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I agree with Tarn on the grading. This was fantastic though, can't wait. I've been aware of this since you posted the first bit about it and have been looking forward to it, but pessimistic it would ever be released (most fanfilms aren't). Touch up the grading, it really does look like raw footage. It was very well-shot, great camera work, so much potential for post-color work. But it's really contrasted to the brilliantly colored night shots, you nailed those.

I LOVE the use of shadow in the fight scene, classic Indiana Jones stuff. You really captured this well. I'm actually extremely excited for this. Though once you are done, I encourage you to make another film with your own story and characters. I love quality fanfilms, but I always hope the production of them teach the filmmakers and encourage them to create their own stuff. You/your director is clearly talented, and I really liked the way this was written. You seem to be avoiding copyright infringement, which is great, but I don't know how much of the score is original. If it is all original, good; if not, I hope you find a composer. I'd love to buy a DVD of this with features and stuff. If you can't sell a DVD, I beg you to do what the Revelations crew did and release the DVD ISO and images for disc and insert online, so we can download them and print our own DVD. I love having stuff like this in my collection. Not sure if it was the flash/compression, but there seemed to be some glitches in the video, one even looked like a flaw in the editing (near the beginning after the night scene, seemed to jump awkwardly for a cut, could have been a bad cut; also could have been a compression glitch).

The burying scene isn't farfetched for an Indiana Jones film, it actually kind of works in the campy bad guys who refuse to just shoot the hero in the head (Raiders, when they just left Indy in the tomb, when he would've been an easy, unarmed target). I would support a re-shoot of that with Tarn's suggestion, but I think it still works in an Indiana Jones film. The casting in this was great as well. Indiana Jones looks like a young hero type, which really works here; the bad guys look sinister, costumes and all. Though the cut to the girl with the gun was extremely out of place, that should really be on the cutting room floor, extremely awkward. The following scene with her was great though.

+1 on the making of bit too. smile This just makes me so happy. I hope you get some publicity for this too. 5/5 hoping this is the last thing you put in the cinema, and the next thing you do is a DVD (maybe another trailer, but I never give trailers above a 4 unless it's the only material in the cinema for the actual film). I loved Crystal Skull, but it's undeniably a very different feel, probably intentionally. But this film had the classic feel of the original Lucas/Speilberg films.

Quick question: did you use a 35mm adapter, or was that DOF the XL1/2's sexiness?
Posted: Fri, 30th May 2008, 2:04am

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Tarn wrote:

One thing I would say is that the opening burial scene is a little odd. If they're trying to bury him (in other words, kill him), why do they leave him alive? Especially when he then escapes from the shallow grave so easily. If they're killers, surely they'd hit him with a spade to make sure? smile Or at least keep an eye on the grave to make sure he doesn't pop out.
Yeah, I agree with Tarn here. I liked the original beginning from a year or two back. It wasn't as extravagant, but simply opening on the mountain shot with a hand all-of-a-sudden breaking through the ground with the titles to me looked better, worked better, and was more 'Indy'.

I know it would be scrapping a lot of intense work for the beginning, but I was able to follow the fact that the people in the tent were the people who buried Indy without seeing them in the beginning, and I liked the fading through walking in the desert more.

I dunno, it's subtler and maybe it's just me, but that's my main complaint. Also, Serpent- what depth are you talking about? While this is beautifully orchestrated, edited, directed, and shot- the high quality looks very 'Dr. No'/flat-90s-TV-look to me. Which is unfortunate, because to me it reminds me more of the Young Indiana Jones series more than the filmic look of the movie. Which makes me speculate that this was shot 60i and not 24p, correct?

Either way, this all is generally very good stuff. And, altogether, I'd even say to me this feels more like Indy than Indy 4 itself did. And that's not something I'd throw around lightly.
Posted: Fri, 30th May 2008, 2:51am

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Atom wrote:

Also, Serpent- what depth are you talking about?
Er, Dr. No was shot on film and in the 60's. Did you mean Dr. Who? smile Anywho, I just noticed some depth when he found the artifact in the tent that had some good depth. I guess I wasn't paying attention to the wider shots throughout the rest, and looking back on it the DOF was normally shallow. However this still had a good cinematic feel for being shot on video. I still hope you touch up the color grading.
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It's a really amazing movie, very nice VFX, 3D animation, costumes, playing actors. Everything is very good. Goodest choice for the music. Congrulations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2008, 10:25am

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Great work on this!

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The grading is fantastic.
Posted: Sun, 8th Jun 2008, 12:51am

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Really great work! It seems that a lot of people don't realize how long some projects take. That's alright, the only thing that matters is the end result. The look and feel are slick and polished. The train effect was the only real "weak" effect element for me, but given the nature of the Indiana Jones Movies themselves that's acceptable (the blimp in Indy 4 looks worse every time I view the movie, but I love the film regardless). One of the things that impressed me the most is the film score. Music is as vital to a movie as its images, and your film composer deserves a lot of praise here too. Extremely nice work. My only suggestion would be to tighten the action sequences up a bit. There's too much delay between Jones' striking the guards with his whip and them aiming at him with their rifles. You need to established the rock wall and crate before Jones uses it, otherwise it just seems to suddenly appear that it's there. These are mere minor details. The director, DP and production crew have all served this production well. Congrats you you all!
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I thought it was really good. It started off a little slow but got going quickly after that. I enjoyed all ten minutes of it. I also noticed it had the same ending as the clip on here form who knows how long ago. Nice work though. I enjoyed it. I am not much for the Indy movies. I think they are cool and adventurous and all but I don't know what it means when a movie is truly indy, but you could have fooled me. Nice work. I enjoyed it thouroughly.
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This was really fantastic and felt big budget to me. Congrats on some really nice work. Can't wait to see the full film.

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Posted: Tue, 10th Jun 2008, 12:09am

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nice job it was really good 5/5 for me. when the guy got the pick axe in his leg i laughed my ass off it look really real. the sound was perfect with the movie it fited perfectly overall it was really good. can't wait for the whole movie.
Posted: Wed, 11th Jun 2008, 9:47am

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The Bad:
The credits at the beginning took up too much screen space and got on my nerves a little.

The lens flare when Indy was walking across the open desert drew me out of the immersion. Made it feel 'vacation-shot' (That being when a family goes on a vacation and shoots video.)

The hand held shots during Indy's 'treck' also drew me out of immersion. Made it feel 'vacation-shot'.

The Good:
Loved the Indy-esque fighting.

Scene with the dog; Small, but very, very well done. Working with animals is hard.

The day for night (I assume day for night) was excellent!

Costumes were incredible.

Good cinametography, good exposure balancing and lighting, especially working with all that blown out, light-coloured dirt.

Overall: Very well done, got me immersed well, almost like I was actually at an Indy film. Few things broke the immersion, but there were many, many redeeming qualities.
Posted: Sat, 14th Jun 2008, 6:48pm

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Impressive. If the rest of the film is as good as this... You captured the Indy style well, both in the feel of the film and in the acting. The motions and gestures for Indy were dead-on!

There were a few spots that seemed a little off, but not too serious. The lens-flare during the treck scene, as was mentioned already, didn't seem to fit. It had a contrived look to it and stood out. The part where the man was stabbed with the pickaxe also felt wrong. Not the fact that he was stabbed, but that the audience sees the spike impaling and the blood on it didn't fit the Indy style. And lastly, when Indy was standing around with the whip and the villian was yelling "Shoot!" I didn't understand why no one was shooting. Were they all out of bullets?

Overall, well done. Very professional. Costumes, sets, camerawork, props, all good. I rate it 4.5/5, but I'll round up.
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This is one of the better films I've seen here. Very well done. Nice location, costumes, fire arms, etc. Attention to detail. Decent acting as well. Well done indeed.
Posted: Fri, 20th Jun 2008, 11:39am

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this is an excellent example of what a good amature film is, although there where mistakes, there where very few. the compositing was appropriate for each scene, the backdrops where well keyed in, and it really had that indiana jones feel, thanks to the actors and the camera angles.whoever portrayed indy must have worked hard on perfecting indys movements, guestures and even his facial movement, because it was perfect. but i have to say, the hand to hand combat scenes needed a little more work, as well as the fight scene between the workers, the "woman" and indy. I liked the first scenes, but the credits at the start really did go for too long, but were transitioned well into the starting scene. i think this was said before but why wasn't anyone listening to they guy when he was screaming for them to shoot? the highlights that i picked out was the fight between indy and the red bandanna guy, and the dialogue between the characters. the csting was well chosen, and it gave me a good first impression. i can't wait to see the final product!

rock on, dudes cool
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Right on! That was great! The title sequence really hooked me in. There were some things that could use some attention, but hey, if you had all the time in the world and a limitless budget, you could've made this perfect. Can't wait to see the final product. This is great. Are there any details like what camera was used, lighting rigs... or is that all on the site?
Posted: Wed, 9th Jul 2008, 6:38am

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I love it! Great job!! smile
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PERFECT! PERFECT! PERFECT! PERFECT! PERFECT! PERFECT! IT CAN BE BETTER! WHAT AN AMEZING JOB! THE BEST MOVIE IVE SEEN IN THIS SITE! eek
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I thought this movie was great.
Posted: Fri, 3rd Oct 2008, 8:18pm

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Damn! This is awesome!
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Where did you get all the Sound fx?
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nice preview! i like it. There are slight changes in the grading at times though and you do see the shadow of the camera man when the brother walks after the dog around 6.36minutes in. But for a low budget movie, i think the acting is quite good and it is nicely shot. Deserves an award.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2009, 3:45pm

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That was pretty astounding work - truly cinematic!

When a fan-film gets this good (as with so many other things) the critique seems to become harsher in my opinion (reading some of the feedback here) - but it shows the love and dedication for Indy that you have undertaken this project and come up with something as impressive as this, and you've hit the nail on the proverbial head imho.

Top notch! smile
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Thought was a very good effort. EXCEPT one thing: it was pretty WELL established in The Last Crusade that Indy got his chin scar as a teenager (from a rival while trying to procure an artifact). So where was this famous chin-scar on our actor in this film? I hope they fix this in post-production, as that scar is very distinguished and is what makes Indy "Indy".
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This is my personal favorite in terms of cinematography. Really really good work in that department. Crips, clear and clean.

When's the whole thing gonna be finished I wonder?
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I enjoyed watching most of this short film. The cinematography, editing and directing all fantastic. They captured the look and feel of the Indiana movies, most of the movie felt like it was a big budget movie.

For me the thing that let it down was the action scenes at the end. Why put so much thought and hard work into making this film and when it comes to the action; it looks like they put hardly any thought into it.

Indiana movies are all about action, and action scenes require just as much thought if not more than the rest of the film. The fight with the bandanna and the pick axe was good, which means they can do it.
Then the fight at the camp site was terrible, none of the actors new what they were doing or why. They were running around shooting and then they were getting knocked out; it was a mess.
The only part i liked was when the guy got squashed by the falling crate, that was funny and really well done.

I apologise for being so negative on the action scenes but it is one of those things that annoy me.
This is an excellent film and the action scenes deserve to be just as good as the rest of the film.
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This is very good. It captured the old Indy feel as well as I think amateur films can. I liked the fight scenes, they were pretty Indy. I loved it when he stuck the pick in the guy's leg. The grading was good, though the daytime scenes could have been a bit more sweaty-Indy feeling.

My problem is with the character himself. I know you couldn't get perfection, but I've got a little gripe. He's too much of a hero. In all the films, Indy gets into some kind of scrape that he escapes through sheer luck or a buddy's help. This guy saves himself from every situation easily. And you really needed to add a snake. I was waiting for a snake the entire time.

But it was great, nevertheless. 4/5.
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Simply amazing Makes me feel I can get my novel Amra into a movie treatment done now with
FX, lightwave ,and Vue 7!!!!
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I was lost in the world of Indiana Jones during that... Well done! biggrin
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Um, I don't mean to be rude, but where the heck is this movie?It was supposed to come out in June '08, judging by your first post. It's now June '09, and still no Templars. Looks really good, but where is it?
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It's in the Fxhome cinema. Type in the name of the movie in the search browser.
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i don't know how to quote, so I did copy-paste:

"Reelvision and Timeless Entertainment present a special 10 minute preview of Treasure of the Templars. The final release of the film is almost less than a month away." (first post in this topic)

I'm talking about the full movie, not the ten-minute preview.
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Hello? Anyone there? I really want to see this movie, but it's been a year since it was supposed to come out. It will be posted in the cinema, right? Right? Right? ME WANTS TEMPLARS! *WAAAAAHHHHHH* (goes off into corner and cries) Once again, I don't mean to be rude or disrespectful or anything. I'm just wondering what happened to this movie.
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FXhomerTony

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I loved this film from the start. I am a big Indiana Jones fan and you've done the subject justice. Great atmosphere, sense of adventure, excitement- its all here. Bravo. 5 stars.
Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2011, 5:37am

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Salmo

Force: 1040 | Joined: 20th Aug 2010 | Posts: 6

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A fine 'addition' to the Indiana Jones series. A great opening that got my attention straight away. Action aplenty. can't wait for the next instalment.