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Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 1:59pm

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Buatha

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I think it would be really nice if there was a newbie-friendly forum on how to use Fxhome products. Please don't misunderstand me, everyone here has been very helpful, but many of the answers I receive seem to assume I know exactly what they're talking about in terms of feature or terminology.

As a person in IT, I know there's the answer good for technically-savvy people and the answer for people who are not. This isn't a complaint, but I think it would be nice for newcomers to the hobby to have some very basic tutorials to ease them into more complex topics.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 2:20pm

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NickF

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I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly, but all of the features are covered in the product manual, which is included in the installer package. Most people who reply (including myself) are too lazy to look it up and therefore rely on the person asking the questions to take a bit of initiative and read the manual, or even use the search function in Adobe Reader to find what they are looking for.

Also, major features are covered in the "Video Tutorials" section, and some features and methods are even covered in the "Text Tutorials" section.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go at you, I'm just saying what happens 99 times out of 100.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 2:59pm

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Buatha

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Actually, the first thing I did was scan the directories for an Adobe manual, but I don't see one from the trial download of VisionLab Studio.

Yes, I'm aware of the tutorials, but they seem to assume some familiarity with the basic concepts that I'm still trying learn.

If I sound lazy, I assure you that's not the case. I only get about 1.5 hours a night (if that) due to family, so it just gets frustrating when time is limited to learn from scratch. So, yes, I'm trying to cut corners in terms of learning time.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 4:43pm

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SGB

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I agree, actually. I've been an fxhome member for a while, and have learned all the terminology and so on just from reading hundreds of posts. I've learned how to use the programs mostly from spending hours figuring them out. I think it would be nice to have a forum where people can ask really, really simple questions that would normally get a "check the manual" response. I mean, if someone asks "What's a Garbage Matte?" we'd all roll our eyes and groan, and probably post something like "check the manual before asking questions like this." But to a complete beginner, its probably hard to understand the manual. And anyhow, a forum like that would definitely be in the Fxhome spirit of helping everyone.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 5:12pm

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FXhomer46784

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If it's mostly the terminology that people are having trouble with (render, garbage matte, etc.), why not just add a glossary of terms page somewhere? Personally, I would think people could find these on wikipedia or something just as easily though.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 9:17pm

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Axeman

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The manual can be accessed from the help menu in the program. And there is a glossary, and has been for a long time, in the support section.

Don't get me wrong, I would agree that the 'check the manual' response is a bit overused, and I try to reference the specific pages of the manual that pertain to the question whenever I can. But when so much effort has gone into providing these answers in advance, in writing up the manual, putting together video tutorials and all the other resources available in the support seciton of the site, its not always reasonable for new users to expect others to voluntarily look the stuff up for them. I totally understand that this isn't always the case, and sometimes the user has already tried to find the answer themselves. And I'm sure you would agree that there are quite a few users who try to take the time to properly answer even the simplest of questions.

The biggest problem I see with a 'newbie forum', which could very well serve a useful purpose, is that the posts that should end up in it wouldn't, and would be posted all over through the other forums. Its not a bad idea, and we'll have to see what the team thinks of it, but the moderators spend a fair bit of time trying to keep the support questions in the proper forums already. But then, that is what we are here for.
Posted: Sun, 15th Jun 2008, 10:25pm

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Buatha

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Well, it was just a suggestion since I also noticed beginner-level questions scattered throughout the forums, hence the idea to consolidate them into one place.

I guess I will just try to figure it all out on my own, then create an awesome tutorial on it for future newcomers, which is the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhmhCVMdJ0Y&feature=related

and more close-up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biEgIn2cbDM&NR=1

which, of course, comes from this show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVR320FouqE

This was my second reason for searching out something like VisionLab Studio or After Effects. The first was flying, which I actually understood from the tutorials and a few forum posts. I learned about garbage mattes and how the layers interact, which was good. However, this second project may be a bit too much for my skills at the moment.

As stated, it was posted in another forum, but not started by myself. It was freaky that someone else was asking about something I had already wanted to do, so I sort of "joined in" on the post:

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35395

I see other people doing it, but no explanation. I don't even know if it's possible without using another program.

I'd like to be able to pull off something like the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8wDRC0ikg&feature=related