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Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 5:32pm

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FCRabbath

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Hey ladies,
Just wanted to ask which poster you guys think i should submit for a contest I'm entering.
I have to pick ONE.



Or if you want see a bigger picture.. http://www.fcrabbath.com/POSTERS.jpg

Thanks guys!
Greatly appreciated.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 5:58pm

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Militant.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 6:03pm

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thanks!
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 6:20pm

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The first "9th circle" one or the 2nd "Legend of David" one with the trailer- those have the best composition IMO. ACtually Speak of the Devil is probably better than the 9th circle composition wise now that I look at it. IMO the rest are just pictures with words on them- no real sense of composition.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 6:32pm

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i thought suburbia was a really good one biggrin
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 6:33pm

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FCRabbath

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Thanks for the help guys..it's just a really difficult choice when you have to pick one you know..
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 6:59pm

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I rather like David, Victor and Suburbia

Victor oughtn't work, but the two colour casts and the mirrored line make it stand apart, which is important for a poster - suburbia is quite good with the faces and David/caravan has drama in the image, but the Victor one has an almost 70's onesheet quality - you could imagine it alongside A Clockwork Orange or something similar
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 7:12pm

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Suburbia is very good, that one gets two thumbs up.

Good work overall though!
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 7:12pm

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I loved the Legend of David, Militant, and the Ninth Circle videos, but as far as posters I like the 'Lost Touch' and the second 'Legend of David' poster.

All of those are pretty amazing.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 7:29pm

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thanks guys! I'm glad people are picking a variety.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 7:35pm

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Here's my order...

  • The Ninth Circle (1)
  • Suburbia
  • Oh Victor
  • The Legend of David (1)
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 8:31pm

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They're all amazing. I would go with either Suburbia or Militant.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 9:59pm

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The first Ninth Circle poster or Speak of the Devil. Both have the colors and polish that, while maybe even a little muted and simple, have the makings of professional posters without that 'Photoshop' look.

The second Ninth Circle poster and Suburbia both look like standard bits of Photoshop to me. Don't get me wrong: they look great. But I can see Photoshop in the eyes on 9th Circle and the concept for Suburbia, while well-executed, is something we've seen before.

This being said, we also have the ones for Militant and The Calling. The former is too basic, don't use it, ever, especially if you have these other great posters to compare. The Calling is a well-constructed poster, but it's more in the vein of good framing and color, not so much good poster design/composition as far as graphics are concerned.

Hope this helps. Speak of the Devil looks a bit 90's, but still pro. I'd pick the first Ninth Circle poster, hands down. Good luck!
Posted: Tue, 1st Jul 2008, 10:19pm

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Speak of the Devil, and Suburbia are definitely the stand-outs for me.

On the opposite end of things, I think both "legend of David" posters aren't very good, and "The Calling" is also of lower quality then the others.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jul 2008, 12:20am

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the guy in the second ninth circle poster freaks me out a little....
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 4:29am

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Okay soo far i think the suburbia one and ninth circle seem to be the fav.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 6:09am

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I'd say The first 'Legend of David' poster.. or 'Speak of the Devil'. Good luck!
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 8:19am

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Oh Victor, Speak of the Devil, and the firs 9th Circle are my 3 favorites. So if you are tallying it up:

2 votes to Oh Victor from me as I liked it more than the other two, and 1 vote to the other two.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 8:47am

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Oh Victor FTW. Second would be the top-right "Legend of David".

None of the others seems that relevant to their titles: they're either en excercise in vapid grading, or contain something inappropriate such as the smiling people in otherwise-spooky "Suburbia" poster.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 8:49am

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Xcession wrote:



None of the others seems that relevant to their titles: they're either en excercise in vapid grading, or contain something inappropriate such as the smiling people in otherwise-spooky "Suburbia" poster.
OR they have something to do with the actual film. smile
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 8:49am

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No, thats not it.

That is unless "The Calling" is about a young girl staring wistfully into the middle distance for 125 minutes and Alone Again is all about a fountain. I suspect neither are the case and that both are in fact about people, not artistic shots.

The suburbia poster is just confusing. If the film is about happy people why the forboding long shadow? Its a fairly commonly used technique to imply fear, so is the film about fear? If so, why neutralise the poster's impact with happy people in the shot?

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Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 8:51am

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Xcession wrote:

No, thats not it.
I hope that's sarcasm.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 9:13am

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suburbia or speak of the devil
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 9:28am

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Xcession wrote:



That is unless "The Calling" is about a young girl staring wistfully into the middle distance for 125 minutes and Alone Again is all about a fountain. I suspect neither are the case and that both are in fact about people, not artistic shots.

The suburbia poster is just confusing. If the film is about happy people why the forboding long shadow? Its a fairly commonly used technique to imply fear, so is the film about fear? If so, why neutralise the poster's impact with happy people in the shot?
Well everyone has an opinion.
I take it you're a designer - so i ask you this. What's your favorite poster? (I mean real movie poster) So maybe this way i can understand what you consider as non romanticized. I think they do match the films well, but i'm curious to see ur favorite poster.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 9:59am

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Good question! I don't have an "oh that would definitely be..." answer off the top of my head, but I know the kind of poster that draws me into a film and I know makes for good marketing.

My prefered techniques differ per film, since what works for one doesn't work for another.

"Everything is Illuminated" for example (I'm not sure why this comes to mind), used an image of the protagonist combined with another image of the film's pivotal scene. From an efficiency perspective this worked because it showed two key elements of the film. From an art perspective it worked because the film itself was quite arty throughout and the sunflowers were iconic. And from a basic design perspective it worked simply because it had 2 focal points of contrasting, odd (therefore intriguing) content within the same image.

1974's Texas Chainsaw Masacre, on the other hand, used just an image of Leatherface with the chainsaw over his head, taken from what has retrospectively become one of the most iconic scenes in cinema history. TCM didn't require art, it wasn't about art, it was about raw, blood-curdling horror. There were no illusions about what the poster had to achieve.

EiI takes the "introduce and intrigue" approach. TCM takes the "You've already heard about it, why sugar the pill?" approach.

So going back to your posters: I genuinely enjoy that Oh Victor poster, since it introduces a character but has warped his face in a way that implies disharmony and also includes a tree from (what I assume to be) a pivotal scene. The mind starts to race: is he dead? what happens at the tree? Why the two halves of the face? Whats wrong with him.

Similarly the top right Legend poster: what is the man doing coming out of the trailer? Is that red grading blood-related? Is that exhausted posture the result of a murder? Oooh i'm on the edge of my seat!

Conversely: Militant - ok so two young-faced kids with no particular expressions set, in army fatigues. In somewhere green. So its about the army. Can't really get anything else from the poster. My mind goes blank and I switch off.

The Calling: Pretty girl wearing a duffle coat with a serene gaze on her face. The Girl makes me feel generally fuzzy and warm, but completely disinterested since theres nothing besides her cute little face to give me the slightest interest in the film itself.

My point is Posters are aimed at the people who *don't* know the films. Their purpose is to make you *want* to see the films, but many of your posters don't achieve this basic remit of a marketing tool.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 10:07am

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Just an FYI, Oh Victor is my least favorite poster, as I think the general composition is pretty poor in comparison to the other posters. The colors are okay, and the objects in the poster are okay, but together there's an incongruity that is unsettling.

What's more, I think the opposite is true of Speak of the Devil and the first Ninth Circle poster. Both take a graphic design theme and go all the way with them without looking too Photoshopped.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 10:21am

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The unsettling nature of Oh Victor is precicely what draws me in. The first "Ninth Circle" poster also seems pretty cool i'd admit.

"Speak of the devil" however, just seems like a choice photograph, rather than a considered, plot-related marketing injection direct to my brain. A blurred photo of an unassuming, average person walking away from the camera is not sufficient to make me care.

Whatever differences ben3308 and I have, though, its clear that we've been drawn into the posters in some way. That is the key. Its that magnetism that some of these lack.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 4:00pm

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First things first: I think the first Ninth Circle is the best. The objects are just ambiguous enough to work in proper conjunction with the plethora of earthy tones in the image. Moreover, the contrast between dark and light is even and positive. Now, onto what I really want to say...

The potential I see in 'Speak of the Devil' is only by virtue of the fact that the poster itself looks like several well-received/iconic late-80's/early-90's movie posters and box art that I've seen; not so much that the composition itself is anything hugely intricate.

Then again, for that film, the noir-esque photograph is blurred and tinted with such subtlety that it definitely pulls across not just a professional photographic quality but a semblance of intrigue (which, aforementioned, is due to its resemblance to other, 'real' posters I've seen).

Failing that the poster's reception is seen by people who have not seen a lot of movie posters in their day (as I have), then you may have a problem with Speak of the Devil. But for the average moviegoer, I think the poster speaks (haha) on an appropriate graphic level.

The problem with Oh Victor is the placement of everything with the color, as I said, is not just unsettling but it seems rather wrong, graphically. I know the effect you're trying to pull, and I think it's done well; just not in the context of what you did it in. I dunno, it could just be me. But also, as designer (granted, not as versed as Xcession) and cinematographer, I do not find the composition of this poster very strong in comparison. You've got a small tree and horizon at the top, with some text, and then no other elements of similar size and shape. In fact, the only other thing on there is an asymmetrical repeat of half of someone's face, and elements that sort of dwindles at the bottom of the poster rather than being graphically tied up by a slender horizontal rule or something of the persuasion. In essence, Oh Victor looks like an earlier design draft to me, rather than something which is finished, polished, and of professional quality. Speak of the Devil is not my favorite, per se, but I appreciate the polish it has in context of what that type of poster is supposed to look like. Again, if that makes sense.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 4:20pm

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Though i am glad that everyone generally has a different favorite one - do want to put a disclaimer that i'm in NO way a poster designer.
And Ben and X (two posters above me) Are probably a lot more versed in poster making than i am.
This is just a simple local contest that i thought would be fun to enter.
Which i lost all together but that's not the point.
Thank you guys again for all your opinions.
I ended up going with the first ninth circle one.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jul 2008, 5:15pm

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you should have made a poll.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008, 12:54am

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As a frequent moviegoer. The one Poster that catches my eye and interest is Speak of the Devil. It has a scary theme to it and nothing else really needs to be added. Sorry you already lost the competition. I liked a few others but Speak of the Devil was my choice.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008, 7:11am

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Randito3 wrote:

As a frequent moviegoer. The one Poster that catches my eye and interest is Speak of the Devil. It has a scary theme to it and nothing else really needs to be added. Sorry you already lost the competition. I liked a few others but Speak of the Devil was my choice.
thanks man!
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008, 7:24am

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On a side note... I'm curious. Do you take pictures for the posters seperate (with a digical camera). Or is it mostly screenshots from your video camera that you use?
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008, 7:27am

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miker wrote:

On a side note... I'm curious. Do you take pictures for the posters seperate (with a digical camera). Or is it mostly screenshots from your video camera that you use?
Some are screen shots, some are separately. Is there one you're asking about in particular?
Posted: Fri, 4th Jul 2008, 9:46pm

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Hrm.. Militant and Lost Touch I'm assuming were taken separately with a digital camera? What about the 2nd Legend of David. Sorry, just curious.
Posted: Sat, 5th Jul 2008, 6:31am

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Off the XL2.