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Muffy & Jebediah: Episode Two

Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 10:46pm

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Rating: +2

This is the second episode of our sci-fi trilogy featuring the exciting interstellar exploits of our intrepid space pilots Muffy and Jebediah.

Having survived the crash-landing of their ship in the swamps, our heroes have found themselves separated and in big trouble - Muffy is lost in the wilderness, and Jebediah is being chased by an unknown alien creature. But what perils still await?


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Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 10:47pm

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This movie is the utter dog's danglies.

HELL YEAH
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 10:50pm

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Rating: +1

this movie IS prolly the best on the alamdv community smile no offence to any of the other users mind you smile

as tarn has proved here, he r0x0r at blender, and alam, and movie making in general biggrin

can't wait till episode 3 smile it should kick arse...
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 10:56pm

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Rating: +1

Yeah a really great movie! u have to love it! but that sound from the Black animals was quite.. hmm.. jobbigt (swedish) haha.. just to bad that the quality was pretty bad!! but nice work!

TARN it up now!
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 11:09pm

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that's odd... how is it that only three people have watched it, yet five people have voted?
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 11:16pm

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i saw it 2 days b4 it was on the cinema page - that's the beauty of knowing tarn on the chat room biggrin
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 11:21pm

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Yup, a few people have seen the movie many times already, in various unfinished forms, and then in its finished form over the last coupla days whilst it crawled online over my 56k connection.

Blueshift and Schwar and Kid have seen it in various incarnations, I believe. Especially Schwar, who has seen it an absurd number of times.

But, as TMM said, it was online for about 2 days before the alamdv page activated.
Posted: Sun, 21st Jul 2002, 11:24pm

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Rating: +1

Andreas - sorry if the Space Monkey screeches got to you a bit. smile

The dodgy audio compression doesn't help, but the real problem was that the monkeys we hired to record their dialogue were very uncooperative. Something about pay and union rules or some such.

Anyway, we managed to just about get what we needed, but our lead monkey walked off the set twice - in other words it was a bit of a nightmare.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2002, 4:39am

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Good job ! The 3D was really cool, all done in Blender you say? Wow, that app is more powerful then I thought it was. Unfortunatly it seemed to cut off with about a minute to go, so I dunno what happened in the end confused Which one is Tarn? Jebediah? Or the weird animal thing that follows them around? I could see Tarn being on of those... Anyhow, keep up the good work!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2002, 11:20am

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Wow. Your best work yet by far. You made one giant leap forward. Way to go. Like the monkeys! Those flying ones in the Wizard of OZ twisted your brain a bit too huh? Anyway, great job. cool

Hey! I typed the whole message and managed to restrain myself from pointing out the cheap, low-down, unfair, immature, doggy voting! unsure Dang... did I type that. Dang!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2002, 11:30am

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Thanks for all the comments so far- much appreciated!

I hope everybody who liked episode 1 hasn't been disappointed. We did our best to take it a few steps further, whilst retaining that true M&J cheese.

Flip - glad ya liked the 3D. I really pushed myself on this one, especially with the monkey fight sequence. The models themselves aren't anything special, but the animation and masking I put a lot of work into. Creating a 3D artificial set to mask out individual blades of grass isn't fun. smile But if you think that stuff is good, then you should check out what the real Pros do with Blender - I'm just a novice.

X - thanks for the kind comments. We were very pleased with M&J2. The M&J films are largely improvised, so we were surprised that ep1 worked out as well as it did. But M&J2 surpassed everything we did in that one, in terms of effects, pacing, structure, music and cinematography.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2002, 11:41pm

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All i get is the audio

what do i gotta dl to see the video too?

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 23rd Jul 2002, 11:47pm

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The movie is in DIVX.

Got to www.divx.com and download the latest version (5.02).

The movie should then play through windows media player (eeueeeurgh), or if not it should play through the provided divx player thingy.

Let me know if you have any more probs...
Posted: Wed, 24th Jul 2002, 12:39am

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@##$&()& Holy !@#$& !!!!!

This flick is by far one of the best here in the cinema cool If you have not watched it then download the divx 5.02 player and do so. This movie really goes to show that no one's vision is unattainable. Tarn this is very very good. I am quite impressed with the overall concept and the Special FX. Keena Films really set a new standard for "no-budget Epics" biggrin

Bang Up Job cool

BTW those of you that gave this a one have your heads where the sun dont shine twisted

Keep up the Great work Tarn
Posted: Wed, 24th Jul 2002, 8:55am

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This movie is crap.


what the hell was that thing, my granny made better films than this.






Just joking, great stuff ( still think costumes would have helped. )

5 votes from me. wink
Posted: Wed, 24th Jul 2002, 2:20pm

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b4uask30male would you stop that!!!!

You have gotten me twice with a very old joke! lol

I end up looking like this evil mad unsure eek tard lol biggrin
Posted: Wed, 24th Jul 2002, 2:23pm

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LMFAO - i like those little stages smile +1 funny, better than b4uask30male's post anyway biggrin
Posted: Thu, 25th Jul 2002, 2:36pm

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Joe - thanks for the superkind comments. smile (I'll pay ya later...!)

We do try to go a bit nuts with our ideas...especially with the M&J films, which are essentially testbeds for ideas and concepts and techniques in a situation that isn't majorly important. We try not to rule anything out, and give everything a go, whether it works or not.

That's where Bob came from, really. If M&J was a serious project, we'd never have considered trying risking a fully integrated speaking CG character, but because it's M&J we were able to have a go and see what happens. I was very pleased with the way it turned out - the CG itself may be very simple, but I think the character comes alive and works very nicely.

Don't forget, it's not just me that made this thing - Steve and Dave and Ben all put in fantastic work as well.
Posted: Thu, 25th Jul 2002, 2:40pm

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Heh, b4uask30male, I may have given you a +1 funny, but you got me very worried for a moment there. razz


Episode 3 might have some more 'proper' costumes, although M&J themselves will most likely remain in their trademark outfits. But the Army of Women will most likely have a sexy leather uniform of some kind.


Oops, am I giving away too much?
Posted: Fri, 26th Jul 2002, 9:45am

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oink

hello

just wanna know if steve and whoever elsE liked the music this time ROUND

IVE NEVER MET THE OTHER GUYS CEPT OF COURSE SI!!

could i possibly BE any more xcited bout the forthcoming DVD???

yes, possible but im still VERY XCITED!!!

tard bleep

ben
Posted: Fri, 26th Jul 2002, 2:39pm

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Hey Ben. smile

Yup, you're music's gone down very well with everybody I've spoken to so far.

You're gonna have groupies before you know it. smile
Posted: Fri, 26th Jul 2002, 6:01pm

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That was.. uhm... interesting eek
Posted: Thu, 1st Aug 2002, 1:08pm

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This film was good. I loved the special effects and the use of CGI. (What program did you use?) Very well done. Must have taken an age to do it all, and it shows. It's better to take your time and get it right than do a rush job and make it look poor. I hope some of my films get up to the standard shown in this film. I gqve it a 4 as I thought the acting of the guy in white was rather..errr..How do I put this without offending anyone..Slighty..Poor. Not that I'm Jack Nicholson or anything.
Look foward to Episode 3
Posted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2002, 12:57pm

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I want to see the nxt part.........outstanding in all departments.....
dropped my icecream twice laughing.I agree with "b4" and his humour, as is displayed in his films , and awarded 5stars.

The trouble is every film I view I always get knocked out by the quality
and skills applied...........I 'd give everybody 5stars .
Posted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2002, 2:33pm

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Thanks again to everybody who has watched the movie, and to everyone who has commented on it so far.

Venger - thanks for the compliments. The 3D was all done in a free program called Blender. I'm not sure if it's available anymore, because the group that made it hit some financial troubles. It did take a fair while to put together - 9 months in total, although we weren't working on it anything like as much as we would have liked (I was in my final year of university, to had other priorities!). And, like you say, it's better to get it right than get it rushed.

Davlin - thanks. Glad it made you laugh. razz We're not sure when we're going to do episode 3...we might try and pull it together next year, but we're all pretty insanely busy these days. And episode 3 will make ep2 look like a walk in the park...
Posted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2002, 3:10pm

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Thanks

glad u liked ALL departments of the film biggrin

i guess the detail of the third part is up to tarn

i think people like it tho!

benj (music dept keena films biggrin )

*beep tard
Posted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2002, 3:23pm

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NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR... mad


you can't do this to your loyal viewers.

stop messing around with women and get part 3 finished.

is part 3 the last, or have you plans for more. ?
Posted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2002, 4:00pm

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Sorry, that's the earliest our work schedules allow. sad

We would have had episode 3 already in the can, but difficulties with one member of the cast upset our plans somewhat. But don't worry, episode 3 will happen at some point. smile

As for the messing around with women...well, that's an integral part of episode 3, as you will one day see...
Posted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2002, 5:51pm

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You tell em "b4".
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benj wrote:

oink

hello

just wanna know if steve and whoever elsE liked the music this time ROUND

IVE NEVER MET THE OTHER GUYS CEPT OF COURSE SI!!

could i possibly BE any more xcited bout the forthcoming DVD???

yes, possible but im still VERY XCITED!!!

tard bleep

ben
Just in case u are in any doubt I thought the music/sound track
was superb.
Posted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2002, 2:18am

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Just got around to watching it (movie wasn't playing correctly in QT on my mac, so i had to convert it!).

AWESOME MOVIE! It was very funny, and the music was really good. Couldn't hear some of the dialogue becuase of the compression, but I still understood the story. The actors were good and the 3D was excellent. Bob definetly worked well smile

The last scene was really cool. how did you make that?
Posted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2002, 12:41pm

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Thanks av11d. smile

Yeah, the audio got a little bit muffled in the compression, which was a shame. But, let's face it, dialogue is hardly M&J's main thing, is it? razz And the music came out ok, so all's well. smile

The last scene was technically fairly simple. We just created the city in Blender and composited it in. The final shot of them walking towards the entrance gate comprises of a few elements:

1. Live action of Steve and Dave walking across the grass towards the real buildings.

2. Bob.

3. The gate bit.

4. The city itself, which covers up part of the real buildings. The sky is real, but the sun isn't (although the sun isn't very easy to see due to compression, which is a shame).


I always wanted to make the city look much better than that, and do a lot more with it, but we just ran out of time. I guess we'll have to wait until episode 3 to really do some cool stuff with that. smile
Posted: Thu, 8th Aug 2002, 7:04pm

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Great film, outstanding in most areas. Personally, I preferred the music from the first episode, which i felt was more appropriate. But then again - everyone else seems to like it.

I was impressed at how well your CGI came out. Especially the floating nasty animals. Bob was impressive too, although his walk didnt appear... hmmm... natural. The lip-sync was excellent with bob tho. I was surprised at how well it worked.

The last scene with the city is breathtaking. And overall this film was much, much better than the episode 1. I look forward to seeing the final chapter. Hope i can entertain you in return soon with my upcoming movie "Obliteration"!
Posted: Fri, 9th Aug 2002, 11:43am

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Thanks for the comments

The score for M&J 1 was the first music I had ever written. I thought the results were ok at the time, but looking back, to me it seems a little repetative.

For M&J 2 (the SECOND bit of music writing for me!) I decided to try to have a larger variety of music, take a risk and see if it works.

I would have to disagree about the music being worse than the first - its a little more complex i think, and hopefully not so repetative sounding!

I agree I could have spent a little more time on tunes, as in making them fit the film a little better.

The tune for the scene where Bob was chasing Jebidiah should really have developed a little more, and for this reason i think it is my weakest bit of music in the film by quite a way.

I think the music where Muffy is fighting the "monkeys" should have had a tune to go over the beat, but unfortunately I only gave myself 2 afternoons to write the whole score and ran out of time!


Tarn has already promised M&J 3 will be ridiculously superior to the previous two outings, and fingeres crossed the music will be to!

Look forward to your film being online

Ben
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My last post was anonymous cause i didnt realise at the time that i wasnt logged in! redface

Anyway, I agree that the music in M&J1 was slightly repetitive, but i liked the tune in M&J 1 better than any in M&J2. Im not putting down the music in M&J2, in fact i think its really good.

I took my "Jeenious Wars theme" tune from "Jeenious Wars 2" and modified it slightly for my upcoming film, "Obliteration" and i think its turned out quite cool. Maybe you would like to make a modified version of the M&J1 tune for M&J3?

Im sure that M&J3 will be every bit as good as the first 2, and im looking forward to seeing it.
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Mmmmm -a remix?!

Wouldnt that involve EVEN LESS work on the score for m&j3?!

I like your style, i think a bit of m&j 1&2 music may make a revamped appearance for the third installment!

ben
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actually it would involve less work, but thats not the point. I didnt re-use the Jeenious Wars theme because i wanted to make it easier for myself. (ive still had to make 3 other pieces of music for it and ive binned one of them as i began to hate it and started tearig my hair out! crazy)

Instead I re-used the Jeenious Wars theme cause it keeps something familiar between the films that we assosiate with the movie. For example.... erm.... Star Wars always has lightsabers and M&J always has those T-shirts and Jeenious Wars always has... erm .... me in it!!! Bad examples but i cant think of better ones! redface

PS I also kept the Jeenious Wars 2 Theme cause it was the only thing worth keeping from that pile of trash! (and im sure there are many who would say that even the music was crap!)
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Yeah, with all seriosness Jenious I totally agree, musical contnuity is a GOOD THING!

Me and Tarn had already strated to try to figure out a sound or style "familiar" to M&J, which would be a kind of "epic" sound, from which a beat or a bass kicks in.

This is how I tried to have some "musical continuity". I didnt work quite as well as hoped from my point of view, when looking at both films as a series, because of exactly what you have pointed out. I was only going for a similar approach, and did not use any similar tunes.

I've thought about it and will be DEFINITELY looking back to earlier tunes to remix/improve and drop into M&J 3 in the......welll as things are going DISTANT future!

Anyway, thanks for your comments and advice

Ben
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Jeenious - long time no see! smile

The space monkeys (the floating creatures in the forest) I was particularly pleased with, I feel like everything came together very nicely there. Bob I also really like, although technically he's pretty archaic. The lip-sync worked remarkably well, and was very easy to do, which surprised me. I agree his walk doesn't really seem to work...that's because the model was never really built with walking in mind. When we decided to have a couple of shots of him doing just that, we had to kind of bodge it, which is why he moves like a muppet.

Glad you liked the last scene with the city...personally I don't really like the effects there. Whilst I think the scene itself works really well, the actual effects are kinda crappy. The city effects in episode 3 will blow it away and be right up there with Coruscant. smile

As for the music...I love Ben's stuff in ep1 and ep2, but ep2 really surpasses what he did in ep1. It's great stuff. I tend to have it playing in the background when I'm working and stuff. smile

As ep2 is really quite different to ep1 (whilst retaining the core M&J approach), I think it's fine to have new musical themes. For episode 3 we can bring all the themes back together, just as we're going to bring plot elements from eps 1 & 2 together, so that episode 3 will hopefully be a great ending to the series.
Posted: Tue, 13th Aug 2002, 3:14pm

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All the fans of M&J's music should wait with baited breath for Part Four of Monstrous Bytes, in which the Keena Films music maestro makes his acting debut!

Part One's out now. cool
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I'm waaaaaaiting

So is next part of monstrous bytes coming out soon?

I've checked the keena films site, but i guess yr working too hard!
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Hey ben smile how are things?

Yeah, hope to get the next part out ASAP...been crazy busy here of late, but hopefully I'll have the time and resources to do part 4 in the next coupla weeks.

To quote a phrase....

...stay tuned. smile
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Things are good! biggrin

Looking forward to next episode. Also, any new on the M&J dvd, even a "directors cut" for M&J2 as there was for the first one? Seriously, quit your job and make a few more movies!

Are there any more tunes needed soon?

By the way why is my light saber so limp. U know, the one next to my user name.

Benj tard
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i can't download it, it says it not avaible, some help plz.
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Unfortunately the server is currently down. Try it again in a couple of days, it should be fixed very soon. Sorry!
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OK, the server problems are all fixed now and M&J2 (as well as Monstrous Bytes et al) should download fine. Sorry about that!
Posted: Mon, 3rd Feb 2003, 7:47am

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Wow, the film was ace...but the genius behind this production must be the composer. The music was stunning; intricate melodies, superb beats, who is this master in disguise? I think for the next episode, the muse that helped create these tunes (since after all, all great artists have to possess a muse) should be even more 'physical' in her assistance. *wink*
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hmmmm. How come bob asks "do you travel alone?" when he admits that he has a strong telepathic sense and he could pinpoint where his friend has been for that last 3 months! Thats a bit contradictory.

I recon bob knew all along about jebidiah and that Muffy should beware of his web of deceit in the next film!

PS the sequel "Fluffy and Jehova 3" will be ace!
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Rating: +1

Having recently trawled through some old hard drives, I re-discovered the blooper reel and Making Of that I put together about 3 years ago - and have now uploaded them for your enjoyment.

I've also re-encoded the main movie file for better quality, as the original was horrendous.

This should allow a whole new generation of FXhomers to enjoy the exploits of Muffy and Jebediah. wink
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Tarn, can you make a Quiktime version of this available? The DivX doesn't seem to be working very well for me.
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This is an archive classic that Tarn gave me the link to yesterday....what a treat:)
I'm proud to be able to bump this into the forum again.