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FULL ZOMBIE MOVIE 6min. (comments & criticism wanted)

Will you watch part 2&3

Yeah!73%[ 11 ]
No.27%[ 4 ]

Total Votes : 15

Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 12:36am

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doppelganger

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Rating: +3

For any body that doesnt know the poll may still be open but part 2 & 3 are in the full movie that is already out.



Here it is the full movie, it's only 6 minutes long.

(Also remember to watch in "HIGH QUALITY" it makes so much of a difference)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUTRHRpY3VY

I would love to here what each one of your opinions are, thanks.

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Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 1:04am

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Very nice, how long will the full movie be?
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 2:10am

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hi
me being a big zombie fan that i am. looks like the best zombie film in 2008 and i have seen and i have seen alot ...this looks really great
great work
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 2:16am

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RigomrtsFX wrote:

hi
me being a big zombie fan that i am. looks like the best zombie film in 2008 and i have seen and i have seen alot ...this looks really great
great work
You have NO idea how happy I am to here that WOOHOO!!!



And to Limey, I'm going to make two more shorts finishing up this boys story. And then a 15-30min short film.
Thanks for your comments guys, I'd love for others to give there input to.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 3:10am

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Pretty sick poster. Nice job overall. Was shot on an HV20?
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 3:16am

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Thrawn wrote:

Pretty sick poster. Nice job overall. Was shot on an HV20?
Yes sir it was.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 3:37am

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Pretty awesome footage, even awesomer poster.

Grading is pretty good, and graming is generally nice. Editing is good, too, but not as fast paced as I would've liked. Even so, still great stuff.

This is more a 'test' than anything (not really a 'movie' per se) but for that it's high quality. Like I said, great stuff!
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 3:59am

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ben3308 wrote:

and graming is generally nice.

This is more a 'test' than anything (not really a 'movie' per se) but for that it's high quality. Like I said, great stuff!
What is "graming" exactly?

Anyways saying it was a "movie" was a screw up I should've put test film.

But thanks a lot.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 5:59am

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I meant 'framing', for what it's worth. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 8:01am

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This is some nice stuff here, but I've got really no idea where it's going. Framing, grading, and acting are all very on-point and professional, and I really like the bleach bypass 'look' on the face and trees. For those merits, you're ace, Rebourne.

The editing is where you lose me. Test, teaser, movie, whatever- the cutting to black in this, when not accompanied by any text on sound, is odd and jarring. At first I let it be because I wanted to see where you were going with the edit- perhaps something Saving-Private-Ryan-ish and inaudible but powerful, but then it pulls up (as slow and pointless as possible, might I add smile) some credits or something prematurely; and all dramatic tension leading up to a reveal for the title or release date of some kind is soured.

And I hate that, because this looks really very cool, and I wish you the best with it all. Just a tad bit of tweaking, and you would've had me totally sold on it. smile
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 1:00pm

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Atom wrote:

This is some nice stuff here, but I've got really no idea where it's going. Framing, grading, and acting are all very on-point and professional, and I really like the bleach bypass 'look' on the face and trees. For those merits, you're ace, Rebourne.

The editing is where you lose me. Test, teaser, movie, whatever- the cutting to black in this, when not accompanied by any text on sound, is odd and jarring. At first I let it be because I wanted to see where you were going with the edit- perhaps something Saving-Private-Ryan-ish and inaudible but powerful, but then it pulls up (as slow and pointless as possible, might I add smile) some credits or something prematurely; and all dramatic tension leading up to a reveal for the title or release date of some kind is soured.

And I hate that, because this looks really very cool, and I wish you the best with it all. Just a tad bit of tweaking, and you would've had me totally sold on it. smile
The blacks were not planned, I originally had a heartbeat slowly go awawy in them, and then come back. But then I decided to take out the sound when I added the music.

The ending was kind of anti-climactic I guess... but there will be 2 more parts so maybe I'll sell you with those, I've got something special planned for part 2.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 2:32pm

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I thought that the grading was the best, obviously a test- but good nonetheless.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 2:55pm

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SilverDragon7 wrote:

I thought that the grading was the best, obviously a test- but good nonetheless.
Thanks there will be 2 more parts following this boy and then I will put them together to make a 5min short.

ALSO does anyone know where I can host this to have full quality, some may want to see it at a higher res. its 71mb for full quality.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 3:40pm

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Atom wrote:

This is some nice stuff here, but I've got really no idea where it's going. Framing, grading, and acting are all very on-point and professional, and I really like the bleach bypass 'look' on the face and trees. For those merits, you're ace, Rebourne.

The editing is where you lose me. Test, teaser, movie, whatever- the cutting to black in this, when not accompanied by any text on sound, is odd and jarring. At first I let it be because I wanted to see where you were going with the edit- perhaps something Saving-Private-Ryan-ish and inaudible but powerful, but then it pulls up (as slow and pointless as possible, might I add smile) some credits or something prematurely; and all dramatic tension leading up to a reveal for the title or release date of some kind is soured.

And I hate that, because this looks really very cool, and I wish you the best with it all. Just a tad bit of tweaking, and you would've had me totally sold on it. smile
I agree with this pretty much 100%. IMO the pacing is really what feels odd about this- like random shots put together instead of "composition" - the art of montage as it were. But the grading and everything looks very nice.

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Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 9:38pm

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Atom wrote:

the cutting to black in this, when not accompanied by any text on sound, is odd and jarring.
I actually liked the cut to black when he screams. Its sort of like the cut that is near the end of Return of the King or Gone Baby Gone. I would have made a shorter period of black, but I like how it cut as he was beginning to scream. I think the reason its no text is because it was meant as a stand alone, not really advertising a future film, but I agree it could use some tweaking.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 10:20pm

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I added a poll just wanted to know if it would be worth making a pt.2 and a pt.3, I've got an idea for both of them that I feel are original and creative.
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 11:20pm

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doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit.

I will watch. Also, I'm sure Ben would host it on his server- if you asked really really nice whistle
Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2008, 11:42pm

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I'll host your video if you want. Just PM me...
Posted: Wed, 6th Aug 2008, 4:03am

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Yeah, I would watch more if you made them.
Posted: Wed, 6th Aug 2008, 4:33pm

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Well, there's not really much here, but It was good. The grading was cool, and the shots fitted well. Good choice of song. good luck with future projects
Posted: Wed, 6th Aug 2008, 4:48pm

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Grading was really good, loved the cuts in the editing, and the Music fit perfectly.

My only problem was with the cinematography actually. But it's not what you may think. Your position of the actor and the framing was spot on. I just didn't like the "shaky-cam" part about it because it looked kind of [I don't know how to put this] "jittery". It just didn't look very smooth.

That's not surprising because you're using a small camera like a Canon HV20. Were you using a counterweight to stabilize your shots? If not, try building one and see what kind of difference it makes.

This only a test film, and a very good one at that, so I think you did a really good job overall.
Posted: Wed, 6th Aug 2008, 5:15pm

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FreshMentos wrote:

I just didn't like the "shaky-cam" part about it because it looked kind of [I don't know how to put this] "jittery". It just didn't look very smooth.
Thats very understandable.

I actually do have a steady cam that I made by adding a weight onto this camera chest stabalizer thingy. But I took the weight off because I felt that the smooth floaty camera effect just didnt fit. And I liked how the jittering of the camera made it fill chaotic (kinda how the character felt)

I was waiting for someone to dislike the camerwork eventually though biggrin

I know some people will probably think it looks amature and bad, but I just like it. NOT for an entire movie or anything that would be crazy. Even an entire scene would be too much. Only when appropriate.

Thanks for your comment its greatly appreciated.
Posted: Wed, 6th Aug 2008, 6:39pm

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I like it. I thought the cuts to black and jittery camera work add to the mood.

The only thing that distracts me is the audio distortion at 0:27 smile
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2008, 4:21am

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THE FULL MOVIE IS UP, the link is on the first post, please leave comments and criticism.
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2008, 5:20am

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I'll be giving a more detailed review tomorrow, after I get some rest, but basically you need a better mic. At the beginning part, when you hear his thoughts, the mic quality sounds bad.. Also, the hammer to the head part. Was he killing himself? You might want to make that a little more clear. Finally, I know your looking for the shaky camera look... but there could have been a lot less jerks. Good job!
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2008, 6:58am

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In the final cut, great music and sound. You edited great to this sound. However, it was very drawn out. And technicals aside, it was a rather simple short, I'd like to see you do something more. This almost seemed like a test to me (maybe it was). It was interesting though, very unique style.

Idea for ending to make it more clear: after he hits himself, still cut to black. But maybe then slowly fade in a static low shot of him dead on the ground with the piano music, and either fade to credits, or credits over the footage.

What was that piano music from, by the way?
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2008, 7:24am

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This would've been great had I not heard and used the music already myself. That's all I thought of. smile
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2008, 1:51pm

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Atom wrote:

This would've been great had I not heard and used the music already myself. That's all I thought of. smile
Haha I had no idea it just fit to well, I'm sorry.

Thrawn wrote:

but basically you need a better mic. At the beginning part, when you hear his thoughts, the mic quality sounds bad.. Also, the hammer to the head part. Was he killing himself? You might want to make that a little more clear. Finally, I know your looking for the shaky camera look... but there could have been a lot less jerks. Good job!
Well, my mic is already really good, I dont know why you thought it sounded bad, maybe because I added an echo. But its not the mic considering I have a Rode NTG-2.

ALL the camera work (jittery, still, chaotic) was done on purpose. This movie was basically an experiment for story telling techniques and other artsy stuff.

Cant wait for the more detailed review.

Serpent wrote:


very unique style.

Idea for ending to make it more clear: after he hits himself, still cut to black. But maybe then slowly fade in a static low shot of him dead on the ground with the piano music, and either fade to credits, or credits over the footage.

What was that piano music from, by the way?
Thank you that was the whole point for this short was to make a "unique" movie, but considering unique is not always good I wanted it to be good to.

My friend had the exact same idea for the end and I didnt do it... I'll be making a re-edit later on and I'll put that in there.

The piano music was from Kevin MacLeod's "Criptic Sorrow" and "Zombie Voodoo" I didnt just use Zombie Voodoo because it said zombie by the way.
Posted: Mon, 11th Aug 2008, 2:34pm

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The artistic style as in 'Transformation' still shines through in this full length version, which looks great. The grading and camerawork add so much to the feel of emotion.

The music was great, the vioceover not so much. The Zombie's voice got very, very annoying. Past that I found the story wasn't fully explained. I believe that the girl is the boy's sister, but did he kill her? And the hammer part was also vauge, because the Zombie voice was still going on, was it the Zombie killing himself or the boy killing the Zombie?

Past that it was still a good film.

4/5.
Posted: Tue, 12th Aug 2008, 11:35pm

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Alright, just watched the full version. I actually grew to like the cinematography much more. It reminded me of 28 Days Later. Loved the music and grading. I also really liked the flashes of his family pictures. But now I need to tell you what I didn't like about it. Other people seem to agree with me on this, the voice-over just didn't work.

The "echo-y" sound was cool, but the zombie growls seemed very out of place and it didn't really make sense as to why they could be heard. Another problem was that when I heard the growls they sounded like very generic "rawrs". And my last thing I have to add about the VO is that when the guy was talking in his head, he sounded perfectly normal and sane, I kept thinking it would have sounded better if he was moaning while he was speaking. I also think the guy should have limped around awkwardly instead of running like a normal person.

But that's it. I think you did a great job and I want to see the other parts!
Posted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008, 2:01am

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What can I say, that was really fun to watch. the camera work was really well done. Everything was well done except for the roars. They got kinda overdone at the end. Really cool stuff, you got talent
Posted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008, 2:04am

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wow who said they wouldn't watch parts 2+3? Some of those zombie roars scared me, but you should process them a little more because they sound a little too much like humans.
Posted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008, 2:52am

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I liked this film a lot, very good job! My only problem with it is the Voice over and the zombies screams. The vo sounded to normal, didn't sound like a zombie at all imo. And the zombie screams sounded somewhat weak unsure
I think it would have been better with a ring wraith scream smile

You can hear the scream at the beginning of this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZzziZ7sOE&feature=related
Posted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008, 5:37am

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Hey thanks everyone for your kind words.

Yeah I know the voice over didnt sound very frantic, and it was too calm. And after listening to screamo music for a couple of years those screams were the best I could do, I skrewed around with them in audicity but didnt want to make them sound to crazy...

Anyways thanks everyone.
Posted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008, 2:53pm

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dude. I wouldnt go as far as saying your like god status but that was really good, and if you dont make another one...I will kill you.
Posted: Wed, 13th Aug 2008, 7:13pm

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JasonX1024 wrote:

and if you dont make another one...I will kill you.
Lol I will kill you, I funny.
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JasonX1024 wrote:

...I will kill you.
Not gonna lie, thats kinda creepy.