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Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 6:01pm

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I ALWAYS continue to have this issue. I bought a new camcorder to get better quality video
But whenever i capture video, i have to use the lowest quality setting (meaning, not the "best" option) because my frames always skip in the capture window

I have updated my driver, etc, set it as the high priority , etc-- but still, sucks...

Anyone have that issue and a solution?

thanks
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 7:11pm

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i have pinnacle 11 and i dont capture the movie from the camcorder i just save the videos and i can just drag them onto the timeline and thats what i do so hope it helps just reply if i didnt answer the question
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 7:13pm

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so, you just use your camcorder software and save teh movie to the computer from your camcorder, not capture through pinnacle?

what if you have a lot of editing to do? like if i capture 15 minutes of footage?

i typically do it through pinnacle and insert my own breaks in footage for easier piece editing...
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 7:35pm

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Try de-fragmenting your hard drive. Usually skipped frames are caused because your hard disk is not running fast enough to keep up with the data coming in from the camcorder. If de-fragging doesn't work, it may be that your hard drive needs to be replaced. This happened to me a few years ago, but chances are that it simply needs to be de-fragmented.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 7:38pm

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thanks-- i have vista- and the computer is less than a year old...

so, i don't think i have to replace it

Can you tell me how to defrag? i think i did it already, but wanted to ask- thanks
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 7:41pm

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Get rid of Pinnacle. NOW.

I know this is going to sound formulaic and fake, but the program has unfixable bugs and is prone to error for no reason whatsoever. As such, I recommend you drop it as soon as you can and move onto something else, like Sony Movie Studio or something.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 7:48pm

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I second what Ben said, Sony makes much better entry-level video editors (I have used both extensively). As for how to defrag, click on Start>Computer, right click on your hard drive and click Properties, and under the tab Tools there is an option to defrag.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 8:08pm

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thanks for the tip-- how much is sony's program? i can't really afford much
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 8:11pm

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Try watching the source capture files on your computer. Generally the capture window does not play the video in real time.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 8:16pm

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If Vegas/Movie Studio are too much $$$ for you, how about Premier Elements? You can find Premier 4.0 and Photoshop 6.0 for only about $120. They are available at Staples and online.

Also, don't use your editing program to capture directly from the camera. This often causes problems. At least it did for me. smile
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 8:19pm

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okay-- i saw sony was only like $60 or something-- is that not right?

here-- http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudio

anyway, how else do i capture the video from my camera? i liked pinnacle because of the movie box adapter that i can plug in my cords to it, which converts it to a usb

But am so irritated by the dropping frames

Trying to figure out what to do
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 8:20pm

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There's a bunch of different versions of Sony Vegas that you can check out here.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 8:25pm

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Thanks

I think the main reason i got pinnacle was the adapter that i can plug in my camcorder cords that then converts it to usb

i want to be able to capture the video, but also divide it into many scenes-- meaning, not just capture 15 minutes of footage and edit that huge chunk-- but split it as it imports...

Sony do that? and how do i connect the camcorder then without the box? is there a universal adapter to usb?
thanks
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 9:20pm

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RyanZ wrote:

Thanks

I think the main reason i got pinnacle was the adapter that i can plug in my camcorder cords that then converts it to usb

i want to be able to capture the video, but also divide it into many scenes-- meaning, not just capture 15 minutes of footage and edit that huge chunk-- but split it as it imports...

Sony do that? and how do i connect the camcorder then without the box? is there a universal adapter to usb?
thanks
Why are you converting to USB? Doesn't your camera shoot digital? Doesn't it have a mini firewire out jack? What camera are you using?
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 9:23pm

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sadly, i don't know... i have this camcorder

Panasonic Palmcorder PV-GS320 MiniDV Camcorder
PAN PVGS320
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 9:30pm

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RyanZ wrote:

sadly, i don't know... i have this camcorder

Panasonic Palmcorder PV-GS320 MiniDV Camcorder
PAN PVGS320
1. Go to the store and buy a firewire cable that has a regular sized firewire connector on one side and the mini 4 pin adapter on the other end. You can probably get this at a Radio Shack, Best Buy, or computer store.

2. Plug the camera in FIREWIRE bypassing the special little software that uses the adapter box. You don't NEED THE BOX!

Try to capture without using that box through firewire.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 9:35pm

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cool

Thank you sir...

Okay-- drum roll

prepare yourself for the dumbest question of all time..

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when you say "plug the camera in FIREWIRE" i assume that is an input on my computer?

Sorry-- sorry--sorry---sorry....yes, i am remedial- i bow down before stupidity
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 9:56pm

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RyanZ wrote:

cool

Thank you sir...

Okay-- drum roll

prepare yourself for the dumbest question of all time..

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when you say "plug the camera in FIREWIRE" i assume that is an input on my computer?

Sorry-- sorry--sorry---sorry....yes, i am remedial- i bow down before stupidity
Yes, if you have a newer computer it should have a firewire IEEE 1394 jack either on the back or on the front. USB is a busy bus- Firewire usually isn't. I'd try that, also you might want to shut down any virus protection software, firewalls and background apps while you are capturing.
Posted: Thu, 18th Sep 2008, 11:05pm

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Bryan hits this on the head with getting you to capture via firewire and throw the other box straight on ebay...

Now, not all PC's come with firewire ports (I know, I just bought one with fantastic spec on most things but no firewire for whatever reason), so you may have to get a firewire card for about £20-odd and fit it yourself (or get a computery friend to do it for you) - it's not a difficult job, but it's certainly not convenient for any technophobes out there.

First try taking a (not too fuzzy) photo of all the ports on your computer and posting it up here - it'll be easy to spot if it's there. Alternatively post the machine make and model number if it's from a big brand, someone might find the spec and let you know that way.

If you do get firewire working, you can almost certainly capture directly into pinnacle or Windows Movie Maker, etc at fantastic quality by comparison - and better still you can capture a whole tape and most editing programmes can automatically chop it into individual takes for you if the camera stopped in between smile
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 1:41am

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i have a HP SR5152NX
AMD Athlon 64 x 2 dual processor 2.10 ghz
1918 mb of ram
32 bit OS (vista)

any idea on firewire....thanks a ton guys
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 2:58am

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i was having the same problem, could be your camcorder, mine has a u.s.b. port which 4 some reason i couldn't capture video. don't know why but it also came with a memory card that happens to work just fine. not sure about the u.s.b. thing though. my camera was like $80.00 pretty cheap but it does great 4 practice and stuff. if you have a memory card you can import your footage into pinnacle by clicking File and import from device "memory card" pinnacle breaks your footage into scenes so just choose the ones you want or all of em if you like. other than that i've never had a prob with pinnacle it works great once you get the hang of it. hope this helps you. also don't get rid of stuff and buy new stuff cause you hit a speed bump. you already spend the money on pinnacle, let it work 4 you. i've had several of my buds tell me that i should have bought another f-x program but vision-lab was my best choice by far plus you have all the great folks on this sight that can help if you hit a snag. good luck.
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 4:37am

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RyanZ wrote:

i have a HP SR5152NX
AMD Athlon 64 x 2 dual processor 2.10 ghz
1918 mb of ram
32 bit OS (vista)

any idea on firewire....thanks a ton guys
pdrg already suggested to post a pic of your ins and outs, honestly, if yu don't know what firewire looks like that would be the best bet= let us guide you!
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 9:40am

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DVStudio wrote:

Also, don't use your editing program to capture directly from the camera. This often causes problems. At least it did for me. smile
Eh?


I also recommend Sony Vegas. The cheap version is a superb, ridiculously affordable editing program for non-professional use. I bought it myself a few months back to help with editing videos for my gaming blog and have been continually surprised and impressed by it.
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 12:20pm

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Your firewire port on your 320 is hidden behind the battery (really, really poor design...)

See the last photo on this page: http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-PV-GS320-Camcorder-Review-32895/Handling-and-Use.htm#

The firewire is the port in the lower right, labeled "DV" (digital video). You will need to power your camcorder from the charger while capturing from it to your computer.

This page shows you what the firewire logo looks like, the kind of cable you need (picture of the red cable), and what the full-size firewire connection will look like on your PC, if it has one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewire

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Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 1:31pm

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[quote="Bryan M Block"]

RyanZ wrote:


1. Go to the store and buy a firewire cable that has a regular sized firewire connector on one side and the mini 4 pin adapter on the other end. .
Hey Bryan...or anyone.... what is "regular sized"? 6 pin?
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 2:14pm

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You want this:




notice the larger (6 pin) plug and the mini (4 pin) plug


Then you want to do this:

Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 2:17pm

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man you guys are great
i love this forum!

And if you didn't see my other post, so i can "give back", check out my buddy and his voice over site

www.davidwashington.com

he is absolutely awesome
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 3:13pm

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could i just get this on ebay? they seem a lot cheaper

http://cgi.ebay.com/6-TO-4-PIN-IEEE-1394-ILINK-FIREWIRE-DV-CABLE-FOR-MAC-PC_W0QQitemZ260289146106QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260289146106&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 4:03pm

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http://www.desktop-review.net/Desktops/Compaq-Presario-SR5152NX-16.htm

This suggests you've got 2 firewire ports, so all you need is the cable - I've used ebay ones quite happily for years smile
Posted: Fri, 19th Sep 2008, 9:07pm

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yeah i just save it in the file and edit everything not capture it from the camera
Posted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008, 2:53pm

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mine must be port-less...

the only inputs i have are usb....dangit!!!

so-- i can get a firewire put in?
Posted: Sat, 20th Sep 2008, 3:22pm

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If you're feeling clever you can do it yourself - it's pretty straightforward, otherwise go to a computer shop and ask them how much to fit a firewire card for you? Frankly the fitting of the card may cost more than the card itself if you ask a big store!
Posted: Mon, 6th Oct 2008, 4:41pm

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I have Pinnacle Studio9 so it may be a bit different. Today when i was using it to capture it was dropping frames here there and everywhere

No idea why but i just tried it again and it worked perfectly
Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2009, 9:24pm

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I used Pinnacle 11 and currently use Pinnacle 12. I've had not problems with Dropped frames. I don't agree with those saying to dump your editing program for their choices. Windows movie maker actually works as an editor for those with limited budgets. I've found the key is the max amount of RAM (memory).

My camera is a Canon GL2
My OS is Windows Vista Home
Memory is 4Gb

Just make sure you have enough disk space and enough memory.

Caz
Posted: Fri, 27th Feb 2009, 11:20pm

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My best advice would be to just use the video camera software to save it to a file then just get the videos throught the editing tab in pinnacle.