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16:9 & 4:3 Choice not consistent

Posted: Sun, 26th Oct 2008, 9:19pm

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rturnbow

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I use Videowrap for compressing Premiere avi's down for publishing on Vimeo and Youtube. Unfortunately the choice for screen size (16:9 or 4:3) is available sporadically, perhaps 1 out of 5 wraps. Most of the time the choice is simply not made available in the menu process.

Any ideas?
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2009, 3:53pm

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Moonloon1

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I use FCP and I am having the same problem.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jan 2009, 5:54am

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Moonloon1

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After repeated attempts to load a 16:9 video with VideoWrap. I went to a FREE program called MPEG Streamclip.app. I used to use it to convert MPEG's from my Sony Cybershot however it lets you set up a video perfectly for YouTube... way more control than VideoWrap. And it loaded great.....
Posted: Wed, 7th Jan 2009, 8:15pm

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pscamm

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The screen where you choose aspect ratio is only available to certain media, see following note from videowrap user manual:

If you see the 'Choose an aspect ratio...' screen it is because VideoWrap is unsure of the aspect ratio (shape) of your video.

Note: This screen will only appear for videos that are in PAL or NTSC resolution, such as footage taken from a DV camera.

Hope this helps although i find it strange that you cant choose aspect for any video file loaded

Paul
Posted: Wed, 7th Jan 2009, 9:35pm

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Moonloon1

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pscamm wrote:

The screen where you choose aspect ratio is only available to certain media, see following note from videowrap user manual:

Hope this helps although i find it strange that you cant choose aspect for any video file loaded

Paul
The only problem it that it doesn't always recognize the ratio so it should ask you every time. There should be more access to settings anyway.
Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 9:51am

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pscamm

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Moon,
I agree, how about it FXhome team ?

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Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 3:19pm

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Axeman

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As I understand it, the entire point of VideoWrap is not having to access the settings. Its an 'idiot-proof' conversion tool, so people who know nothing about compression don't have to ask, 'Which codec do I use? What format should it be in? What resolution should I choose? etc." All they have to know is the final destination of the video file.
Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 6:36pm

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Moonloon1

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Well most of us are smart enough to use FXhome products so I don't think having a few extra settings is too much to ask. Like now YouTube allows 1 GB for videos. I just want VideoWrap to give my video the max quality to fit any standard for any web site. MySpace is 500 MG others are more or less. Who is the idiot.... The idiot or the one who follows the idiot? Sorry had to throw that Straw Man in there.... There is laughter in that... I just want more.
Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 7:38pm

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pscamm

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I See Axeman's point exactly,
But maybe when you first open your file for processing instead of having just a button to press called 'next', for people who want more control with a great piece of software there should be a 'next' button and an 'Advanced Setup' button too. Whoever is using the software, idiot or not, can decide if they want to pick the advanced option or stick with the easy setup.

To give a perfect example of this, I recently rendered an animation (not in an Fxhome product) at 1440 x 1080 - pixel aspect 1.33 - Huffy compression - output plays at 4:3 ratio instead of 16:9, as you can see this product doesn't 'tag' the video file to tell players it's supposed to be stretched to 16:9 widescreen, it does do the pixel aspect ratio deform ready for stretching but that's it. Always Having the option to mark a video clip to 16:9 would be great, just because it's not PAL or NTSC doesn't mean that a 16:9 output isn't required. This is a time when my videowrap would be perfect for the job, file loaded fine and rendered output to youtube fine but MP4 file is still in 4:3 ratio. Because this valuable option isn't there i cant use it effectively ....GRRrrrrr

I personally I think videowrap is a great little tool but supporting more advanced users should be top priority for the next release, that way, Fxhome will be opening the doors for more customers.

Just my view

Regards
Paul
Posted: Thu, 8th Jan 2009, 9:20pm

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Moonloon1

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Here, here Paul! Well said!
Posted: Fri, 9th Jan 2009, 12:06am

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Axeman

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Yes, I didn't mean to imply that Videowrap should always be an app marketed solely to noobs, I think some advanced control would make it useful to a whole separate group of users. But I believe the thought at its creation was that people who wanted more control and have the know-how can easily set up the compression settings that they want when they export from their NLE, and that VideoWrap would be superfluous for them.
Posted: Fri, 9th Jan 2009, 2:12am

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Moonloon1

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Well only having FCP for about 8 months I am still bashing my head over all the options. When I was using SD DV it was easy and VideoWrap was great every time. But with 16:9 I get a bit lost.